When a silver coin tones naturally it does not leave the devices untoned at the edges. For instance, the stars on the obverse have nice little untoned outlines around them. Hmmm, not the way silver tones naturally. There is no reason that the natural toning of the silver would omit this part of the coin. bob
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Yep. So many giveaways on that one being AT'd. Too bad, nice coin there to start with.
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I was browsing ebay and came across this GEM....the blue caught my eye (as well as the BIN price) and although I thought AT, I figured I'd see how the Board felt.....and the result is pretty clear!
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<< <i>When a silver coin tones naturally it does not leave the devices untoned at the edges. For instance, the stars on the obverse have nice little untoned outlines around them. Hmmm, not the way silver tones naturally. There is no reason that the natural toning of the silver would omit this part of the coin. bob >>
I was just wondering if the above statement is accurate, because I have seen many silver coins where the stars are untoned and they are in top tpg holders (whether that means anything). I was wondering if Tom can comment on this? >>
That statement is not entirely accurate....in a lot of cases the stars on a Morgan dollar obverse have an untoned "halo if you will" around them becuase of the flow lines etc that were created when the coin was first struck. Those area typically don't tone at the same rate as the rest of the coin and in some cases may not tone at all. In my experience...the presence of these untoned areas around devices tends to lend critibiality to the toning being legit as when chemicals etc are applied you tend to get 100% coverage of color in all areas.
I say market unacceptable, therefore AT. If just the reverse was toned the way it is, I'd say NT, but the obverse looks wrong, though not as bad as many AT'd Morgans.
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the stars on the obverse have nice little untoned outlines around them. Hmmm, not the way silver
tones naturally. There is no reason that the natural toning of the silver would omit this part of the coin.
bob
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
<< <i>AT all the way >>
Yep. So many giveaways on that one being AT'd. Too bad, nice coin there to start with.
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<< <i>When a silver coin tones naturally it does not leave the devices untoned at the edges. For instance,
the stars on the obverse have nice little untoned outlines around them. Hmmm, not the way silver
tones naturally. There is no reason that the natural toning of the silver would omit this part of the coin.
bob
I was just wondering if the above statement is accurate, because I have seen many silver coins where the stars are untoned and they are in top tpg holders (whether that means anything). I was wondering if Tom can comment on this?
That statement is not entirely accurate....in a lot of cases the stars on a Morgan dollar obverse have an untoned "halo if you will" around them becuase of the flow lines etc that were created when the coin was first struck. Those area typically don't tone at the same rate as the rest of the coin and in some cases may not tone at all. In my experience...the presence of these untoned areas around devices tends to lend critibiality to the toning being legit as when chemicals etc are applied you tend to get 100% coverage of color in all areas.
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