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What would you do? 10/22/07 WHAT THE ITEM WAS.

SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
What would you do if you inherited a nice chunk of change and then see a coin come out in auction that would suck up 60 - 70% of the inheritance, but there is NO question that the coin is historically significant, is in a series you like, and is pretty much a no brainer as to it's long term (10 - 15 years) increase in value? Assume that your cash flow is already more or less covering your current expenses. Assume you'd HAVE to hold the coin for 12 years, and pass up on whatever 3-4 major opportunities might come up in that time that you could have purchased with that money. Assume that instead of buying that 1 historically significant coin you could over the years use the income from the inheritance to go on fancier vacations with your children and buy a couple of quite nice coins a year. So, what would you do?



10/22/07 EDITED TO ADD: See my new post (at the current end of this thread) discussing what the item was.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For me.. it is a no brainer..... I would NOT buy the coin.... I enjoy coins and the hobby... but I enjoy living more. Cheers, RickO
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    I would opt for enjoying more with my family. I enjoy the beauty of coins, but what good does it do to own a coin that has to be limited to visitations to my SDB?. I guess I've gotten too old to be concerned about my possessions and bragging rights.


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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Go ahead and do it, Sy.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    There is alot of "what ifs and should ofs" but overall it is what makes you and your family happy. Probally another question would be , what would the person that you inherited the money from say?image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you don't buy the coin, how will you feel in a few years when it triples in value? The coin may prove to be an excellant investment.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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    MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    If it were money that you were going to invest
    anyway, what better way to invest it, than to
    have something you would enjoy looking at
    over the years, but...

    If, like you say, the money could be used for
    the family, then I would opt for that option,
    without a second thought, and no regrets.

    ~


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is alot of "what ifs and should ofs" but overall it is what makes you and your family happy. Probally another question would be , what would the person that you inherited the money from say?image >>



    Well, I'm divorced so I don't have to put up with what my ex says. My kids, who's education expenses through college are already (the good Lord willing) covered, would probably be interested in, but not totally thrilled by, the "coin". The person whom I inherited the money from would have been TRULY interested in the "coin" and would have had no problem with spending up to 25% of the inheritance on it, but beyond that might be wondering about spending that much (as a percentage) on one "coin".
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    GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374
    To put it in plain terms from a collectors point of view....coins are a pastime for an indulgment for oneself.Not to confused as an investment.If you want to invest there are many profitable ventures.


    << <i>So, what would you do? >>

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a tough call.

    I think I would lean towards: you could over the years use the income from the inheritance to go on fancier vacations with your children and buy a couple of quite nice coins a year
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's simple, if you buy the coin, fine. Just that's the only coin you but from the inheritance.
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    jpo1965jpo1965 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭
    Sometimes you got to say"WHAT THE FUC" and go for it. SO "WHAT THE FUC"image
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Would it make you happy to have it? If you say yes, then do it. You only get one chance sometimes.image
    Becky
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edit cuz I'm overly tired
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What would you do if you inherited a nice chunk of change and then see a coin come out in auction that would suck up 60 - 70% of the inheritance >>



    60% to 70% of how much?

    Russ, NCNE
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do what you feel is the right thing for this time in your life.

    PS. I`m dying to know what coin it is...

    A Morgan perhaps?

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    do you think the coin will increase in value faster than other investments ?


    If so buy the coin.

    If not invest the money and buy the coin with the profits of the investments.


    Al
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who gives a rat's ass about blowing money on fancy vacations? What a waste!!
    theknowitalltroll;
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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, Russ, I'm not going to say what the chunk of change is, but I will say that the coin is BY FAR the most expensive I've ever contemplated.



    << <i>do you think the coin will increase in value faster than other investments ?


    If so buy the coin.

    If not invest the money and buy the coin with the profits of the investments.


    Al >>



    I suspect that while it will increase in value it will not increase faster than other investments. The problem is, it is unique, so once sold, God alone knows how long it will be off the market. Also, it is NOT the sort of coin that investors will want to buy and then flip in 5ish years. It is MUCH more likely to go to a deep pocketed collector that will buy and hold.

    Obviously I don't want to tip my hand as there could be other bidders out there, but I will tell these boards by the end of the year all about it.

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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    is pretty much a no brainer as to it's long term (10 - 15 years) increase in value

    I cannot think of a coin that fits this description. Regardless, if I were to receive a large inheritance, even in the days of my collecting fervor, I might blow as much as 10% on a coin, but I would "blow" the rest securing college funding for the kiddos, paying off the house, and padding the nest egg.
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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, the auction is over and done with, so now I can tell you folks what this was all about. First off, the object is OT, but it is UNQUESTIONABLY incredibly historical. Second, with a screen name of SkyMan and a Ph.D. in satellite imagery you might get the feel that I'm a Space Junky. The object that I was contemplating bidding on was this:

    Lunar Module Timeline

    It covers everything that Armstrong and Aldrin did within the Lunar Module from when they got in it till when they redocked with the Command Module (not including their Walk(s) on the moon). In essence it is comparable to owning the (signed) portions (if they still existed) of Columbus' log during the day that he saw "the new world" and first landed on it.

    I was totally torn on whether to bid on this object, but eventually (well before the auction) decided that it was just too much of a chunk of change. While it went for well below estimate, it still went for (with the juice) over $250,000. I was able to go to Goldberg's on thursday and see ALL the items from the sale that interested me:

    Sale items

    Note in particular the items 116-127. The LM timeline was a heck of a lot of fun to look at. The one problem with it, and all the other comparable flightsheet info, was the sheer number of acronyms. I'm pretty good at NASA-speak, but even I couldn't make out more than maybe 1/4-1/3 of the acronyms. What really caught my eye was the incredible attention to detail in these things. I mean, we're talking SERIOUS scheduling here.

    As to the investment aspects of lot 116, it is unique, historically valuable, and has a certain cachet associated with it. What more could you want? I assume most of you in the last month or so have seen at least one and maybe several articles on the 50th anniversary of Sputnik 1. It is my firm belief that in roughly 12 years we will see a comparable series of articles on Apollo 11, so in 12 years would be the optimal time to sell the LM timeline if someone were interested in it mainly as a financial vehicle.

    Finally, yes I did bid on and win a variety of items in the Aerospace section (lots 99-137) of the auction... including at least one Apollo 11 (flown) object. Now, so we're not TOTALLY off topic here's the reverse of an Ike which shows a (modified) Apollo 11 flight patch representation.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool! Thanks for sharing the link, too. Definitely one of a kind.
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    I think you would have won either way.
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i> is pretty much a no brainer as to it's long term (10 - 15 years) increase in value

    I cannot think of a coin that fits this description. Regardless, if I were to receive a large inheritance, even in the days of my collecting fervor, I might blow as much as 10% on a coin, but I would "blow" the rest securing college funding for the kiddos, paying off the house, and padding the nest egg. >>



    what, no kitchen?image

    Without knowing how much dough you're talking about, I'd say spend it on the family.

    Whoah...obviously we're talking about a large amount.
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    WAA? (What's An Acronym?)

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,589 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WAA? (What's An Acronym?) >>



    Initials that are used as a word (e.g. SCUBA = Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus). Another example would be SNAFU.image

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    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    That one tops the coolness meter!

    Russ, NCNE
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    It's something I never had to worry about. We were dirt poor.
    See, my Mother and Dad had 17 kids. 14 lived to adulthood, and 10 of us are still alive now. My oldest sister is 82.
    My Dad died after my Mother, and when the loot got divvied up, we each got a check for $660.
    I signed my big inheiritance check over to a disabled brother.
    No rare coin for me.

    Ray
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is very cool. I can completely see the allure of space memorabilia. Enjoy your new treasure.

    Robert
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    Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭✭
    90% of all inheritances are totally gone in less than a year

    that means no assets

    buy the coin
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the Skyman's "take" from the Goldberg auction of Apollo stuff is quickly shipped, we may just have a little Off Topic show and tell at next week's Santa Clara show. Hope so.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    i dont know how to even begin to comprehend this thread.
    thanks for posting.
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    JimDepotJimDepot Posts: 960 ✭✭✭
    $250,000? If you can afford it then you should have bought it.

    Me? $250,000 is winning the lottery and I would have spent maybe $20,000 on stuff, the rest would go into my piggy bank.

    Not my choice, my wife is the smart one.

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