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tahoe98
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ccac rejects cent designs.....all seven of the u.s. mint's proposed designs to mark lincoln's presidency on the reverse of the cent in 2009, telling designers they didn't get the symbolism of their proposals. it's on the front page of cw october 15 issue. fyi folks.
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aww poo.......I was kinda diggin' the one with Linc's hands writing with a feather pen.
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<< <i>aww poo.......I was kinda diggin' the one with Linc's hands writing with a feather pen. >>
That's what I was thinking
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<< <i>aww poo.......I was kinda diggin' the one with Linc's hands writing with a feather pen. >>
They approved the first three designs. The only one they didn't approve was the last one which showed an unfinished capitol building as the commitee felft it did not accuratly depict the Lincoln Presidency during the Civil War. Taken from the October 15th Coin World:
<< <i>By a 9 to 1 vote, the committee urged that the final reverse portray Lincoln as the "war president" who saved the Union.
It was only the second time that the CCAC has refused to accept Mint designs for a coin. To ignore the Civil War would be to ignore "the great trauma" that Lincoln faced as president, argued University of Cincinnati historian John K. Alexander. >>
<< <i>How often does this happen? Not often, I imagine. >>
The CCAC rejected all the Monticello proposals for the 2006 nickel, which led to the retread of Schlag's reverse - a very sad situation with a very sad outcome IMHO.
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...as this is the simplest coin we have, it seems to me it should call for the plainest and most distinct design. (Feb. 9, 1909; Leach to Cortelyou.)
There is little in the rejected designs that is plain and distinct - they are cluttered and awkward.
The treasury Dept should hire four top sculptors, explain the problem and let them come up with the four designs. Then the engraving dept can mechanically reduce the relief and strike the commemorative cents.
<< <i>The cent is 3/4-inch in diameter. As mint director Frank Leach commented about the cent in early 1909:
...as this is the simplest coin we have, it seems to me it should call for the plainest and most distinct design. >>
Plain and distinct...just like everything they make now, don't ya think??
With all the real problems in the world, we have a committee that can't figure out how a penny should look someday?
No kidding. They were uninspired and apropos of nothing.
Since it's Lincoln, maybe the bar will actually be higher on this design, and we will get something truly worthwhile. Classic. Like...
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Yes, that little penny has been around for nearly 100 years and has seen a few changes such as changes in its design and changes in the metal content.
How did this design, the staple of our pocket change come about? Way back in 1908, Victor D Brenner began designing a medal of Theodore Roosevelt marking the construction of the Panama Canal. Brenner had earlier created a plaque of Lincoln using a February 9th, 1864 photograph as the model. When Roosevelt saw the plaque of Lincoln, he was impressed. Brenner confided to the president that he was a great admirer of Lincoln and suggested that a portrait of Lincoln should be put on a U.S. coin. Although George Washington and Lincoln had appeared on pattern issues of the 1860s, as of 1908 no American president, or real person, had ever appeared on a coin made for regular circulation. The timing was right as Roosevelt had previously commissioned Augustus Saint-Gaudens in 1907 to redesign all American coinage including the Indian Head penny which had been around for nearly 50 years. Unfortunately Saint-Gaudens died that summer. Thus Roosevelt was open to ideas from other artists and was intrigued by the idea of using Lincoln on the cent and also coincided with his desire to honor his fellow Republican (it was all politics back then also) and the 100 year anniversary of his birth and consequently asked Brenner to submit a design. Brenner choose the penny as the coin to honor Lincoln as he felt it was appropriate to honor the “people’s” president on the most common coin. Originally, the design for the reverse was the same pattern as a French two-franc coin and had “United States of America” across the top of the reverse with his name “BRENNER” in small letters across the bottom.
The design was immediately rejected by Mint officials as they did not like the use of a design identical to a French coin. They also did not like Brenner’s name being prominently displayed on the coin. They advised him to use only his initials as was common on other coins. Brenner redesigned the reverse with two stalks of wheat, the words ONE CENT over United States of America and his initials “VDB” on the bottom and the national motto, E PLURIBUS UNUM, which means "One out of Many" circling the top. Brenner’s design did not originally include the phrase “In God We Trust” despite the fact that the Congress passed the Act on March 3, 1865, authorizing the use of this expression on our coins during Lincoln's tenure of office. William Taft succeeded Roosevelt as president before the penny went into production and refused to approve the design without it.
Even though no legislation was required for a new design, approval of the Treasury Secretary was necessary to make the change. Franklin MacVeagh gave his approval July 14, 1909 and it was announced to the public that a new one-cent coin would be available in the middle of the year to commemorate the 100 year anniversary of Lincoln’s birth. About three weeks later, on August 2nd, the new cent was released to the public.
This was the first ever U.S. coin that would be released that would contain a real person on the picture. As such, there was much controversy as some people felt that putting a real person on a coin was too similar to the European monarchies. Others felt that a man of Lincoln’s importance belonged on a hire denomination coin than a penny. Mint employees were upset that a coin was designed by a mint outsider. >>
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The Lincoln cent ushered in an era of portraiture that has dulled United States coinage. I love the wheat reverse and the Lincoln portrait dignified but the move away from allegorical designs created severe aesthetic limitations. Actual people should not be on United States coins.
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ever owned. Place it on the reverse and leave obverse as is.
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they want something 'war related' for the reverse, stay tuned.