Guess the grade of this 1928 Saint Gaudens $20 Double Eagle? ANSWER NOW POSTED!!
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Make it interesting. Why do you grade it the way you do?
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Edited to add---Now that you have added some better pics, it looks more like a 62.
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Also, it is difficult to judge the luster from the image, but probably decent.
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i think more high AU to low MS. the luster seems worn off liberty
but yet still remains in the cracks.
it has some marks but that is ok because none of them are truly bad.
i will guess MS62 because i think it is not really worn... just some rub/light friction/handling.
it does not look cleaned.
I think i'm seeing some wear on the eagles belly and on Miss Liberties leg.
There are some obverse slices and a host of little chatter in the fields. In the photos large portions of the high points are darker in color which lead me to believe those are lightly scuffed. I usually see more severe marks on a 63. Mark-wise this is easily a 64. Just a matter of how many scuffs mar up the field luster "eye appeal."
Like most large gold coins, you can have large hits on MS64's and sometime's MS65's.
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reasoning, the scrape in the field is pretty deep looking.
Just too many hits.
Got to be an ms60 to ms62. Although ms63 wouldn't shock me.
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The big hit to the left of the torch, and the front of her gown are nicked up. 62, maybe a 63 if the grader got lucky the night before.
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<< <i>the EF Hutton of Saints has spoken (Jay), so i'll follow his lead and say MS64 >>
I was in a hurry, but I think is a very weak 64. I don;t like those gouges to the left of Liberty. They look like a staple scratch.
It could be a MS60.
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<< <i>I like it for MS63, but being a large coin it's probably in a 64 holder. >>
Wow. Just saw your picture posted right after I hit "reply". It lokks better than smoe 61's I've got in OGH's.
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You are NOT going to believe she guessed MS-60!!!
Maybe I will just let her go golfing with me too?
It is the increasingly rare all white NGC insert/tag used after they discontinued the black NGC slab and the NGC hot press logo on the INSIDE of the holder.
I've come across a few of those blank white NGC holders as well.
Not sure if I still have them.
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That coin definitely deserves a sticker. Stop by CoinFest and pick one up for that baby!
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<< <i>55 all day long, look at the friggin leg! >>
Stick to buying plastic.
If the spreads would open up on Aints, I'll be out there a crackin' away.
I have not even seen the coin yet but I bought it for the coolness factor of buying the slab not the coin.
To me the coin looks like it is could easily be as low as an AU-58 from the stacking rub you see above the eagle's eye and various other areas. However, we are talking about gold here and graders of gold are more forgiving because of that. Nonetheless, it should be an AU-58 to MS-61 max. The other attributes of the coin including its luster, etc should not be overlooked.
To go down to an AU-55 means more significant areas of impaired luster which does not appear to be the case here. However, it is admittedly difficult, almost impossible to discern AU grades from pictures alone.
I paid $799 - postage paid. I would buy 100 more of these old slabs just like that at this price if they were around.
Now, market grading seems to bring the coin above that AU-58 to MS-61 range. But when the price hardly changes between VG-10 and MS-62 on $20 Saint gold I cannot see the need for market grading by TPG services!!
Then again, I am not a proponent of market grading to begin with.