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  • Yep the 80's will be a cake walk compared to the mass of this episode...but all will work itself out...It will be a new group of people brought in to take the role of all you ignorant under educated over payed Americans...just like the Indians were treated...rounded up and put somewhere where no one had to deal with um...yeap it is just a merry go round....just a different set of people.
  • It was all in the cards from the beginning...this did not just happen....we just have a dirty dealer!!!! New World Order...Where does this leave you Yank!!!!
  • It started when we lost the power of the UNIONS...when it broke apart the decline began. All the Yank will be, is a warrior just like our boys and girls are doing in Iraq...we Yanks will be nothing but a Police Force of the World....it is here and it is now...Gold will not hold its high position....the United States can not afford to let it!!! Even though our manufacturing is foreign the companies that do the manufacturing are still American owned and still report profits...the stock market will regain and take it's place as the wealth builder of the world.
  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭
    Yet the dollar fell . The Canadian Looney is now on par with the USD Think about that and the price of gold.........image
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  • You know,, all this can be changed,, just try and get the right people in Washington... I think We have been sold out since back in the eighties,, and has only gotten worse since then... back in the ninties,, Clinton gives an Athiest country, China,, Most favored trade nation,... What the HeII was that all about,???????... King George and his "Patriot Act",,, More of our Constitutional Rights thrown right out the window... I'm telling you,,, we are being sold out... IMHO....
  • Yes the US dollar is worthless...we are now lower with the rest of the worlds currency, The Brits are still ahead of us...you bring the value of the dollar down and the world can buy more of your goods....you raise the value of the dollar and less of the world will buy what you have to sell....You drop the Earning Wage of people and the product becomes cheaper....this is why they took the manufacturing abroad to get You the Yank and the World accustom to the NEW WORLD ORDER....Mexico will also take the slack of so called jobs Americans don't want to do....it is all here and taking its form....This is what Clinton did...but no one foresaw, suposidly the Events of Sept. 11th...which today only has exuberated our debt.
  • Being, that is past tense! You have been sold out!
  • To turn it around would take another 10 to 15 years...minimum. One whole generation of Americans has been lost in all of this.
  • Paleodale, I can not read it...can you give me an address...my computer is running on windows 98 as my other computer has gone down and I am limited as to what I can see or do.
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    dlimb2, personally, and no offense intended, with what you know figure out a way to make money off of it. It will make you feel a little bit better------------------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree


  • << <i>Paleodale, I can not read it...can you give me an address...my computer is running on windows 98 as my other computer has gone down and I am limited as to what I can see or do. >>

    ............... Here is the address;; ... {<<< http://www.kitco.com/ind/Schiff/sep142007.html >>}
  • This is what is called a secular rise (GOLD)....

    $1200 within 8 months.....

    FloridaBill

  • BigE, what I have stated is the way it is in my eyes....What I have stated are facts that I have assembled in my mind, from what has transpired over time...this Nation has become lawless and renegade with no laws except for a few...no morals left. What we know as our Constitution is not for the American but for the New American yet to arrive on our shores...in a way it is the way it has always been...At one time all of us were New Americans and we were tired poor and hungry...and we were welcomed to these shores....now it is the phasing out of the old and bringing in the NEW just as it has always been....You talk to an Immigrant and they will tell you that the United States has always used Foreign Educated Scientist and higher educated people from other lands to accomplish its SCIENTIFIC greatness and you study history and you will see they are correct....But it was the Poor Yank who gave his life to keep us free...You want to blame government...then blame yourself too for not doing something about it...There have been revolutions in this country because people had backbones to stand up for what they thought was right...today our backs are weak and the only fighting being done is by street gangs....Americans have become to soft and lazy and now are paying the price....Just like on Sept. 11th 2001...If the FBI and CIA had been doing their job then maybe Sept. 11th could have been avoided...National Security has always been the FBI's prime game...now tell me why they were not on it!!!!!They were told and did nothing about it!!! Why? Our Government has been infiltrated by foreign Nationals intercepting highly classified information...how do you fix that!!! While our Highly payed Officials are making big news of releasing CIA covert agents Names blasting it all over the news and keeping an upror going..(they do not even know the rules of our Government or how to abide by the rules that have been established to protect our nation) While the whole time our little infiltrators are having their way with us! Uneducated as the White House is, is a prime example of what our future holds...And I am not leaving out the American people either...as they have stood by and allowed it to happen...In the not to distant future there will be no American of more than 1 generations whom will be capable of being the President of the United States of America...do you like that Idea...I don't!!! it is very hard to stomach!!! But it is reality....how may Yanks are ready for it! I know I am not!
  • E, how can one make money from a sad day in History!


  • << <i>interesting read: >>



    Peter Schiff is a certifiable wacko. His book "Crash Proof" (which I made the mistake of buying) is just one long promotion to get you to buy his investing services.

    At the end of the day, setting aside all the hype about currency, America has the highest worker productivity in the world (which is what really makes us rich) and has most of the world's top companies and research universities. We also have much more favorable demographic trends than any of our competitors. We're going to be fine.
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
  • He also doesn't compute percentages very well. He reports that $9000 is different from $11000 by 10%. After an obvious mistake like that, I really don't buy the rest of the analysis.
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  • JoshLJoshL Posts: 656 ✭✭


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    << <i>interesting read: >>



    Peter Schiff is a certifiable wacko. His book "Crash Proof" (which I made the mistake of buying) is just one long promotion to get you to buy his investing services.

    At the end of the day, setting aside all the hype about currency, America has the highest worker productivity in the world (which is what really makes us rich) and has most of the world's top companies and research universities. We also have much more favorable demographic trends than any of our competitors. We're going to be fine. >>



    I hope you are right. There are a lot of problems with America. We are importing a whole lot more than exporting. We are running a huge deficit. Too many countries have us by the nads...Saudi Arabia and China especially. Then Greenspan warns of MAJOR problems ahead with all the baby boomers starting to retire. Who is going to pay for all of this? I don't think we are going to be fine. Will we have another depression...HIGHLY unlikely. But there will be consequences to all of this - we are already seeing them. The question is just what will the end consequences be.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Peter Schiff is a whacko on one end much the same that Larry "Crudlowe" is a whacko on the other end.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭
    Dublai will own 20% of the NY Stock Exchange also.


  • << <i>Peter Schiff is a certifiable wacko. >>



    I don't know if you can call the guy a certifiable whacko, in fact I think that is a rather harsh and unfounded statement.

    So what? The guy is promoting his own stuff, sounds lke capitalism to me.

    One math error doesn't spoil the the message and the overall numbers don't lie.

    I was called much worse than that around here a few years ago for my beliefs and a particular large silver play I made.

    This is just the chickens coming home to roost and the big guys have yet to return to the perch. If you've ever had to clean out a chicken coop, you know what the phrase "the chickens coming home to roost" really means. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

    Over the years there have been a few of us, RoadRunner comes to mind quickly and others whom I can't remember right now, but were just as precient have been seeing this coming and planning accordingly.

    In the end I think we, the American people, will be fine, but the road is going to be rough going for several more years to come yet. The end game of this chess match is yet to play out, but it's going to be a bloody financial bath and a major lifestyle adjustment for most Americans in the process. It's a pity that the political players who led us down this path won't be the ones who suffer. BTW, those politcos come from both wings of the bird of prey, so this isn't a shot at just one party or another.

    I have no compassion for the financial institutions that put us here and those that go belly up deserve it. Maybe even a few will get some "Enron treatment" and that would be fine with me. The pursuit of profit is no sin, but the outright greed and rule twisting deserves to be dealt with accordingly.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    From the Wikipedia entry on Peter Schiff:

    "Peter Schiff... is known for his extremely bearish views on the United States stock market, bond market, the US dollar, and the United States economy in general for which he has earned the nickname "Dr. Doom." He is also credited as a contributor to his father's 1985 book, "The Great Income Tax Hoax: Why You Can Immediately Stop Paying This Illegally Enforced Tax". His father, Irwin Schiff, was convicted to a jail sentence for protesting the income tax.

    Wikipedia link.

    Wikipedia just gives a tiny flavor of this guy. To really get a sense of Schiff's nuttiness, you would have to read "Crash Proof," as I did a few months back. Don't waste your money on it.
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
  • Our current income tax system is unconstitutional. There's little doubt about that.

    The IRS has been losing court cases hand over fist the last few years. It's just a matter of them having threatened enough of the sheeple over the years such that people tend to comply without really knowing what they are doing.

    Yes, I pay my taxes, every unconstitutional cent. I can't afford to fight them, but I would if I had the time and lawyers to do it. The income tax is one of the biggest scams ever perpetuated on the American citizens. Irwin Shiff took the wrong approach and lost, but many many others have beaten them handily. Of course you will go to your grave before they ever pay the damages.

    That's a story for a whole 'nother thread though.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Our current income tax system is unconstitutional. There's little doubt about that.. >>



    Are you kidding? The courts have rejected that argument so many times that they will probably sanction your attorney if he even raises it.
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    gold DOWN $3...
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well if you don't like Schiff guess you probably don't think much about the Mogambu Guru. (lol)

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold


  • << <i>

    << <i>Our current income tax system is unconstitutional. There's little doubt about that.. >>



    Are you kidding? The courts have rejected that argument so many times that they will probably sanction your attorney if he even raises it. >>



    Wrong. Do some research.

    These cases are all sealed by the Federal Bench as soon as they are over.

    You don't get to read about them in the newspapers, that's censored, but they are happening all over the place.

    My own tax atty beat them several years ago in a fairly famous case down in Galveston. His client recently passed away after being stiffed by the IRS and our tax paid for lawyers after nearly 20 years. Now that gentleman's daughter has taken up the cause as she is legal heir to what is now well over 100 mil considering interest. The IRS has lost every appeal and there have been far more than anyone else could have been granted.

    Another case here in Houston happened a few years ago and a local Dentist beat the heck out of them. Just show us the law that says we are liable to pay an income tax. Please. The IRS would love you forever if you could, but you can't as there is no such law. Did you know the IRS is a privately owned collection agency? Why do you think they have to pay postage? Even Congress critters and soldiers get franking privileges.

    Not kidding here at all.


    BTW, I love the Mogambo!!
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭


    << <i>Just show us the law that says we are liable to pay an income tax. >>



    Its known as the Internal Revenue Code. The IRS loses a lot of cases. They often take an aggressive collection position or try to recharacterize a transaction in a manner that would make it taxable or would result in more tax than reported by the tax payer. Sometimes, in fact often, the IRS wins.

    Now if you will, kindly direct me to the Supreme Court case that strikes down the Internal Revnue Code as being unconstitutional.

    CG


  • << <i>Well if you don't like Schiff guess you probably don't think much about the Mogambo Guru. (lol)

    roadrunner >>



    I love the Mogambo!

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  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    Deadhorse, I know a little something about tax law, having worked as a tax lawyer earlier in my career. My knowledge of this field isn't based on conspiracy theories or websites run by the uneducated. I don't have the time or inclination to educate you; but if you think you're right, by all means apply your theories and see how fast you follow Peter Schiff's father all the way to jail. For those are willing to be educated as to the true state of the law, this Wikipedia entry does a decent job of rebutting the tax protesters' main arguments.

    Edited to add: Here is another website prepared by an attorney which should resolve all of your doubts. He cites to extensive case law -- feel free to go back and read the cases yourself, if you have any doubts. The author describes his site as:

    "The purpose of this FAQ is to provide concise, authoritative rebuttals to nonsense about the U.S. tax system that is frequently posted on web sites scattered throughout the Internet, by a variety of fanatics, idiots, charlatans, and dupes, frequently referred to by the courts as “tax protesters”."
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Our current income tax system is unconstitutional. There's little doubt about that.. >>



    Are you kidding? The courts have rejected that argument so many times that they will probably sanction your attorney if he even raises it. >>



    Wrong. Do some research.

    These cases are all sealed by the Federal Bench as soon as they are over.

    You don't get to read about them in the newspapers, that's censored, but they are happening all over the place.


    >>



    So I will ask the obvious question.... if these cases are all sealed by the Federal Bench as soon as they are over.... how do you have so much knowledge about how many there are?

    Just curious.... I have seen plenty of individuals go to jail for challenging the constitutionality. So I am very skeptical... and would like to see some actual examples that can be verified. Preferably before someone reading this thread may actually think there is something to what you say and decide to test the system.
    ----- kj
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Income tax is not really needed unless you want to effectively tax one person's dollar more than another's, the political basis for our otherwise unnecessarily complicated tax laws. Want to tax everyone's dollars equally? Use the money supply (and issue debt) and do it with natural inflation as they partially do anyway. It's hard to rationalize the taxes as illegal as much as unfair. There is where we have a point of debate. Who makes the rules? Congress. From there, just follow the money -- on both sides of the aisle.


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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please give me a sympathy bid

    So I can pay taxes with Spam image

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  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    I hate paying income tax just as much as the next guy. But one has to be smart enough to realize that you can only change this system politically. The courts aren't going to help you, and acting like a "tax kamikaze" will just get you sent to jail.
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
  • Please get off your pedestal.

    I pay my taxes. I also know there is no law that states anyone has to pay an income tax on personal income.

    Just show me the law, you can't because it doesn't exist. People beat the IRS on this very fact. The amendment was never ratified.

    Please tell me how I can even sign the form without giving up my 5th Amendment rights?

    I don't believe in conspiracies, but I do consider myself well read.

    As I said earlier, this is a topic for another thread and I have no intentions nor time to get into a pi**ing contest over this issue.

    You might want to read over this:


    Questions and Answers about the Internal Revenue Service

    Revision 3.4 certified by Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Citizen of California, Federal Witness, Private Attorney General, Author and
    Webmaster of the Supreme Law Library

    Internet URL of home page:

    http://www.supremelaw.org

    Common Law Copyright, all Rights Reserved without Prejudice

    1. Is the Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury?

    Answer: No. The IRS is not an organization within the United States Department of the Treasury. The U.S. Department of the Treasury was organized by statutes now codified in Title 31 of the United States Code, abbreviated “31 U.S.C.” The only mention of the IRS anywhere in 31 U.S.C. §§ 301‑310 is an authorization for the President to appoint an Assistant General Counsel in the U.S. Department of the Treasury to be the Chief Counsel for the IRS. See 31 U.S.C. 301(f)(2).

    At footnote 23 in the case of Chrysler Corp. v. Brown, 441 U.S. 281 (1979), the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that no organic Act for the IRS could be found, after they searched for such an Act all the way back to the Civil War, which ended in the year 1865 A.D. The Guarantee Clause in the U.S. Constitution guarantees the Rule of Law to all Americans (we are to be governed by Law and not by arbitrary bureaucrats). See Article IV, Section 4. Since there was no organic Act creating it, IRS is not a lawful organization.


    2. If not an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury, then what exactly is the IRS?

    Answer: The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration (“FAA”). But the FAA was promptly declared unconstitutional inside the 50 States by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of U.S. v. Constantine, 296 U.S. 287 (1935), because Prohibition had already been repealed.

    In 1998, the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit identified a second “Secretary of the Treasury” as a man by the name of Manual Díaz-Saldaña. See the definitions of “Secretary” and “Secretary or his delegate” at 27 CFR 26.11 (formerly 27 CFR 250.11), and the published decision in Used Tire International, Inc. v. Manual Díaz-Saldaña, court docket number 97‑2348, September 11, 1998. Both definitions mention Puerto Rico.

    When all the evidence is examined objectively, IRS appears to be a money laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1951 and 1961 et seq. (“RICO”). Think of Puerto RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act); in other words, it is an organized crime syndicate operating under false and fraudulent pretenses. See also the Sherman Act and the Lanham Act.

    3. By what legal authority, if any, has the IRS established offices inside the 50 States of the Union?

    Answer: After much diligent research, several investigators have concluded that there is no known Act of Congress, nor any Executive Order, giving IRS lawful jurisdiction to operate within any of the 50 States of the Union.

    Their presence within the 50 States appears to stem from certain Agreements on Coordination of Tax Administration (“ACTA”), which officials in those States have consummated with the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. A template for ACTA agreements can be found at the IRS Internet website and in the Supreme Law Library on the Internet.

    However, those ACTA agreements are demonstrably fraudulent, for example, by expressly defining “IRS” as a lawful bureau within the U.S. Department of the Treasury. (See Answer to Question 1 above.) Moreover, those ACTA agreements also appear to violate State laws requiring competitive bidding before such a service contract can be awarded by a State government to any subcontractor. There is no evidence to indicate that ACTA agreements were reached after competitive bidding processes; on the contrary, the IRS is adamant about maintaining a monopoly syndicate.

    4. Can IRS legally show “Department of the Treasury” on their outgoing mail?

    Answer: No. It is obvious that such deceptive nomenclature is intended to convey the false impression that IRS is a lawful bureau or department within the U.S. Department of the Treasury. Federal laws prohibit the use of United States Mail for fraudulent purposes. Every piece of U.S. Mail sent from IRS with “Department of the Treasury” in the return address, is one count of mail fraud. See also 31 U.S.C. 333.

    5. Does the U.S. Department of Justice have power of attorney to represent the IRS in federal court?

    Answer: No. Although the U.S. Department of Justice (“DOJ”) does have power of attorney to represent federal agencies before federal courts, the IRS is not an “agency” as that term is legally defined in the Freedom of Information Act or in the Administrative Procedures Act. The governments of all federal Territories are expressly excluded from the definition of federal “agency” by Act of Congress. See 5 U.S.C. 551(1)(C).

    Since IRS is domiciled in Puerto Rico (RICO?), it is thereby excluded from the definition of federal agencies which can be represented by the DOJ. The IRS Chief Counsel, appointed by the President under authority of 31 U.S.C. 301(f)(2), can appear, or appoint a delegate to appear in federal court on behalf of IRS and IRS employees. Again, see the Answer to Question 1 above. As far as powers of attorney are concerned, the chain of command begins with Congress, flows to the President, and then to the IRS Chief Counsel, and NOT to the U.S. Department of Justice.

    6. Were the so-called 14th and 16th amendments properly ratified?

    Answer: No. Neither was properly ratified. In the case of People v. Boxer (December 1992), docket number #S-030016, U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer fell totally silent in the face of an Application to the California Supreme Court by the People of California, for an ORDER compelling Senator Boxer to witness the material evidence against the so-called 16th amendment.

    That so‑called “amendment” allegedly authorized federal income taxation, even though it contains no provision expressly repealing two Constitutional Clauses mandating that direct taxes must be apportioned. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court have both ruled that repeals by implication are not favored. See Crawford Fitting Co. et al. v. J.T. Gibbons, Inc., 482 U.S. 437, 442 (1987).

    The material evidence in question was summarized in AFFIDAVIT’s that were properly executed and filed in that case. Boxer fell totally silent, thus rendering those affidavits the “truth of the case.” The so‑called 16th amendment has now been correctly identified as a major fraud upon the American People and the United States. Major fraud against the United States is a serious federal offense. See 18 U.S.C. 1031.

    Similarly, the so-called 14th amendment was never properly ratified either. In the case of Dyett v. Turner, 439 P.2d 266, 270 (1968), the Utah Supreme Court recited numerous historical facts proving, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the so‑called 14th amendment was likewise a major fraud upon the American People.

    Those facts, in many cases, were Acts of the several State Legislatures voting for or against that proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution. The Supreme Law Library has a collection of references detailing this major fraud.

    The U.S. Constitution requires that constitutional amendments be ratified by three-fourths of the several States. As such, their Acts are governed by the Full Faith and Credit Clause in the U.S. Constitution. See Article IV, Section 1.

    Judging by the sheer amount of litigation its various sections have generated, particularly Section 1, the so‑called 14th amendment is one of the worst pieces of legislation ever written in American history. The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States” is properly understood to mean “subject to the municipal jurisdiction of Congress.” (See Answer to Question 19 below.)

    For this one reason alone, the Congressional Resolution proposing the so-called 14th amendment is provably vague and therefore unconstitutional. See 14 Stat. 358-359, Joint Resolution No. 48, June 16, 1866.

    7. Where are the statutes that create a specific liability for federal income taxes?

    Answer: Section 1 of the Internal Revenue Code (“IRC”) contains no provisions creating a specific liability for taxes imposed by subtitle A. Aside from the statutes which apply only to federal government employees, pursuant to the Public Salary Tax Act, the only other statutes that create a specific liability for federal income taxes are those itemized in the definition of “Withholding agent” at IRC section 7701(a)(16). For example, see IRC section 1461. A separate liability statute for “employment” taxes imposed by subtitle C is found at IRC section 3403.

    After a worker authorizes a payroll officer to withhold taxes, typically by completing Form W‑4, the payroll officer then becomes a withholding agent who is legally and specifically liable for payment of all taxes withheld from that worker’s paycheck. Until such time as those taxes are paid in full into the Treasury of the United States, the withholding agent is the only party who is legally liable for those taxes, not the worker. See IRC section 7809 (“Treasury of the United States”).

    If the worker opts instead to complete a Withholding Exemption Certificate, consistent with IRC section 3402(n), the payroll officer is not thereby authorized to withhold any federal income taxes. In this latter situation, there is absolutely no liability for the worker or for the payroll officer; in other words, there is no liability PERIOD, specifically because there is no withholding agent.

    8. Can a federal regulation create a specific liability, when no specific liability is created by the corresponding statute?

    Answer: No. The U.S. Constitution vests all legislative power in the Congress of the United States. See Article I, Section 1. The Executive Branch of the federal government has no legislative power whatsoever. This means that agencies of the Executive Branch, and also the federal Courts in the Judicial Branch, are prohibited from making law.

    If an Act of Congress fails to create a specific liability for any tax imposed by that Act, then there is no liability for that tax. Executive agencies have no authority to cure any such omission by using regulations to create a liability.

    “[A]n administrative agency may not create a criminal offense or any liability not sanctioned by the lawmaking authority, especially a liability for a tax or inspection fee.” See Commissioner of Internal Revenue v. Acker, 361 U.S. 87, 4 L.Ed.2d 127, 80 S.Ct. 144 (1959), and Independent Petroleum Corp. v. Fly, 141 F.2d 189 (5th Cir. 1944) as cited at 2 Am Jur 2d, p. 129, footnote 2 (1962 edition) [bold emphasis added]. However, this cite from American Jurisprudence has been removed from the 1994 edition of that legal encyclopedia.

    9. The federal regulations create an income tax liability for what specific classes of people?

    Answer: The regulations at 26 CFR 1.1-1 attempted to create a specific liability for all “citizens of the United States” and all “residents of the United States”. However, those regulations correspond to IRC section 1, which does not create a specific liability for taxes imposed by subtitle A.

    Therefore, these regulations are an overly broad extension of the underlying statutory authority; as such, they are unconstitutional, null and void ab initio (from the beginning, in Latin). The Acker case cited above held that federal regulations can not exceed the underlying statutory authority. (See Answer to Question 8 above.)

    10. How many classes of citizens are there, and how did this number come to be?

    Answer: There are two (2) classes of citizens: State Citizens and federal citizens. The first class originates in the Qualifications Clauses in the U.S. Constitution, where the term “Citizen of the United States” is used. (See 1:2:2, 1:3:3 and 2:1:5.) Notice the UPPER-CASE “C” in “Citizen”.

    The pertinent court cases have defined the term “United States” in these Clauses to mean “States United”, and the full term means “Citizen of ONE OF the States United”. See People v. De La Guerra, 40 Cal. 311, 337 (1870); Judge Pablo De La Guerra signed the California Constitution of 1849, when California first joined the Union. Similar terms are found in the Diversity Clause at Article III, Section 2, Clause 1, and in the Privileges and Immunities Clause at Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1. Prior to the Civil War, there was only one (1) class of Citizens under American Law. See the holding in Pannill v. Roanoke, 252 F. 910, 914‑915 (1918), for definitive authority on this key point.

    The second class originates in the 1866 Civil Rights Act, where the term “citizen of the United States” is used. This Act was later codified at 42 U.S.C. 1983. Notice the lower-case “c” in “citizen”. The pertinent court cases have held that Congress thereby created a municipal franchise primarily for members of the Negro race, who were freed by President Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation (a war measure), and later by the Thirteenth Amendment banning slavery and involuntary servitude. Compelling payment of a “tax” for which there is no liability statute is tantamount to involuntary servitude, and extortion.

    Instead of using the unique term “federal citizen”, as found in Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, it is now clear that the Radical Republicans who sponsored the 1866 Civil Rights Act were attempting to confuse these two classes of citizens. Then, they attempted to elevate this second class to constitutional status, by proposing a 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution. As we now know, that proposal was never ratified. (See Answer to Question 6 above.)

    Numerous court cases have struggled to clarify the important differences between the two classes. One of the most definitive, and dispositive cases, is Pannill v. Roanoke, 252 F. 910, 914‑915 (1918), which clearly held that federal citizens had no standing to sue under the Diversity Clause, because they were not even contemplated when Article III in the U.S. Constitution was first being drafted, circa 1787 A.D.

    Another is Ex parte Knowles, 5 Cal. 300 (1855) in which the California Supreme Court ruled that there was no such thing as a “citizen of the United States” (as of the year 1855 A.D.). Only federal citizens have standing to invoke 42 U.S.C. 1983; whereas State Citizens do not. See Wadleigh v. Newhall, 136 F. 941 (C.C. Cal. 1905).

    Many more cases can be cited to confirm the existence of two classes of citizens under American Law. These cases are thoroughly documented in the book entitled “The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal Revenue” by Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., now in its eleventh edition. See also the pleadings in the case of USA v. Gilbertson, also in the Supreme Law Library.

    11. Can one be a State Citizen, without also being a federal citizen?

    Answer: Yes. The 1866 Civil Rights Act was municipal law, confined to the District of Columbia and other limited areas where Congress is the “state” government with exclusive legislative jurisdiction there. These areas are now identified as “the federal zone.” (Think of it as the blue field on the American flag; the stars on the flag are the 50 States.) As such, the 1866 Civil Rights Act had no effect whatsoever upon the lawful status of State Citizens, then or now.

    Several courts have already recognized our Right to be State Citizens without also becoming federal citizens. For excellent examples, see State v. Fowler, 41 La. Ann. 380, 6 S. 602 (1889) and Gardina v. Board of Registrars, 160 Ala. 155, 48 S. 788, 791 (1909). The Maine Supreme Court also clarified the issue by explaining our “Right of Election” or “freedom of choice,” namely, our freedom to choose between two different forms of government. See 44 Maine 518 (1859), Hathaway, J. dissenting.

    Since the Guarantee Clause does not require the federal government to guarantee a Republican Form of Government to the federal zone, Congress is free to create a different form of government there, and so it has. In his dissenting opinion in Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 at 380 (1901), Supreme Court Justice Harlan called it an absolute legislative democracy.

    But, State Citizens are under no legal obligation to join or pledge any allegiance to that legislative democracy; their allegiance is to one or more of the several States of the Union (i.e. the white stars on the American flag, not the blue field).

    12. Who was Frank Brushaber, and why was his U.S. Supreme Court case so important?

    Answer: Frank Brushaber was the Plaintiff in the case of Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad Company, 240 U.S. 1 (1916), the first U.S. Supreme Court case to consider the so‑called 16th amendment. Brushaber identified himself as a Citizen of New York State and a resident of the Borough of Brooklyn, in the city of New York, and nobody challenged that claim.

    The Union Pacific Railroad Company was a federal corporation created by Act of Congress to build a railroad through Utah (from the Union to the Pacific), at a time when Utah was a federal Territory, i.e. inside the federal zone.

    Brushaber’s attorney committed an error by arguing that the company had been chartered by the State of Utah, but Utah was not a State of the Union when Congress first created that corporation.

    Brushaber had purchased stock issued by the company. He then sued the company to recover taxes that Congress had imposed upon the dividends paid to its stockholders. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled against Frank Brushaber, and upheld the tax as a lawful excise, or indirect tax.

    The most interesting result of the Court’s ruling was a Treasury Decision (“T.D.”) that the U.S. Department of the Treasury later issued as a direct consequence of the high Court’s opinion. In T.D. 2313, the U.S. Treasury Department expressly cited the Brushaber decision, and it identified Frank Brushaber as a “nonresident alien” and the Union Pacific Railroad Company as a “domestic corporation”. This Treasury Decision has never been modified or repealed.

    T.D. 2313 is crucial evidence proving that the income tax provisions of the IRC are municipal law, with no territorial jurisdiction inside the 50 States of the Union. The U.S. Secretary of the Treasury who approved T.D. 2313 had no authority to extend the holding in the Brushaber case to anyone or anything not a proper Party to that court action.

    Thus, there is no escaping the conclusion that Frank Brushaber was the nonresident alien to which that Treasury Decision refers. Accordingly, all State Citizens are nonresident aliens with respect to the municipal jurisdiction of Congress, i.e. the federal zone.

    13. What is a “Withholding agent”?

    Answer: (See Answer to Question 7 first.) The term “Withholding agent” is legally defined at IRC section 7701(a)(16). It is further defined by the statutes itemized in that section, e.g. IRC 1461 where liability for funds withheld is clearly assigned. In plain English, a “withholding agent” is a person who is responsible for withholding taxes from a worker’s paycheck, and then paying those taxes into the Treasury of the United States, typically on a quarterly basis. See IRC section 7809.

    One cannot become a withholding agent unless workers first authorize taxes to be withheld from their paychecks. This authorization is typically done when workers opt to execute a valid W‑4 “Employee’s Withholding Allowance Certificate.” In plain English, by signing a W‑4 workers designate themselves as “employees” and certify they are allowing withholding to occur.

    If workers do not execute a valid W‑4 form, a company’s payroll officer is not authorized to withhold any federal income taxes from their paychecks. In other words, the payroll officer does not have “permission” or “power of attorney” to withhold taxes, until and unless workers authorize or “allow” that withholding ‑‑ by signing Form W‑4 knowingly, intentionally and voluntarily.

    Pay particular attention to the term “Employee” in the title of this form. A properly executed Form W‑4 creates the presumption that the workers wish to be treated as if they were “employees” of the federal government. Obviously, for people who do not work for the federal government, such a presumption is a legal fiction, at best.

    14. What is a “Withholding Exemption Certificate”?

    Answer: A “Withholding Exemption Certificate” is an alternative to Form W‑4, authorized by IRC section 3402(n) and executed in lieu of Form W‑4. Although section 3402(n) does authorize this Certificate, the IRS has never added a corresponding form to its forms catalog (see the IRS “Printed Products Catalog”).

    In the absence of an official IRS form, workers can use the language of section 3402(n) to create their own Certificates. In simple language, the worker certifies that s/he had no federal income tax liability last year, and anticipates no federal income tax liability during the current calendar year. Because there are no liability statutes for workers in the private sector, this certification is easy to justify.

    Many public and private institutions have created their own form for the Withholding Exemption Certificate, e.g. California Franchise Tax Board, and Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. This fact can be confirmed by using any search engine, e.g. google.com, to locate occurrences of the term “withholding exemption certificate” on the Internet. This term occurs several times in IRC section 3402.

    15. What is “tax evasion” and who might be guilty of this crime?

    Answer: “Tax evasion” is the crime of evading a lawful tax. In the context of federal income taxes, this crime can only be committed by persons who have a legal liability to pay, i.e. the withholding agent. If one is not employed by the federal government, one is not subject to the Public Salary Tax Act unless one chooses to be treated “as if” one is a federal government “employee.” This is typically done by executing a valid Form W‑4.

    However, as discussed above, Form W‑4 is not mandatory for workers who are not “employed” by the federal government. Corporations chartered by the 50 States of the Union are technically “foreign” corporations with respect to the IRC; they are decidedly not the federal government, and should not be regarded “as if” they are the federal government, particularly when they were never created by any Act of Congress.

    Moreover, the Indiana Supreme Court has ruled that Congress can only create a corporation in its capacity as the Legislature for the federal zone. Such corporations are the only “domestic” corporations under the pertinent federal laws. This writer’s essay entitled “A Cogent Summary of Federal Jurisdictions” clarifies this important distinction between “foreign” and “domestic” corporations in simple, straightforward language.

    If Congress were authorized to create national corporations, such a questionable authority would invade States’ rights reserved to them by the Tenth Amendment, namely, the right to charter their own domestic corporations. The repeal of Prohibition left the Tenth Amendment unqualified. See the Constantine case supra.

    For purposes of the IRC, the term “employer” refers only to federal government agencies, and an “employee” is a person who works for such an “employer”.

    16. Why does IRS Form 1040 not require a Notary Public to notarize a taxpayer’s signature?

    Answer: This question is one of the fastest ways to unravel the fraudulent nature of federal income taxes. At 28 U.S.C. section 1746, Congress authorized written verifications to be executed under penalty of perjury without the need for a Notary Public, i.e. to witness one’s signature.

    This statute identifies two different formats for such written verifications: (1) those executed outside the “United States” and (2) those executed inside the “United States”. These two formats correspond to sections 1746(1) and 1746(2), respectively.

    What is extremely revealing in this statute is the format for verifications executed “outside the United States”. In this latter format, the statute adds the qualifying phrase “under the laws of the United States of America”.

    Clearly, the terms “United States” and “United States of America” are both used in this same statute. They are not one and the same. The former refers to the federal government -- in the U.S. Constitution and throughout most federal statutes. The latter refers to the 50 States that are united by, and under, the U.S. Constitution. 28 U.S.C. 1746 is the only federal statute in all of Title 28 of the United States Code that utilizes the term “United States of America”, as such.

    It is painfully if not immediately obvious, then, that verifications made under penalty of perjury are outside the “United States” (read “the federal zone”) if and when they are executed inside the 50 States of the Union (read “the State zone”).

    Likewise, verifications made under penalty of perjury are outside the 50 States of the Union, if and when they are executed inside the “United States”.

    The format for signatures on Form 1040 is the one for verifications made inside the United States (federal zone) and outside the United States of America (State zone).

    17. Does the term “United States” have multiple legal meanings and, if so, what are they?

    Answer: Yes. The term has several meanings. The term "United States" may be used in any one of several senses. [1] It may be merely the name of a sovereign occupying the position analogous to that of other sovereigns in the family of nations. [2] It may designate the territory over which the sovereignty of the United States extends, or [3] it may be the collective name of the States which are united by and under the Constitution. See Hooven & Allison Co. v. Evatt, 324 U.S. 652 (1945) [bold emphasis, brackets and numbers added for clarity].

    This is the very same definition that is found in Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition. The second of these three meanings refers to the federal zone and to Congress only when it is legislating in its municipal capacity. For example, Congress is legislating in its municipal capacity whenever it creates a federal corporation, like the United States Postal Service.

    It is terribly revealing of the manifold frauds discussed in these Answers, that the definition of “United States” has now been removed from the Seventh Edition of Black’s Law Dictionary.

    18. Is the term “income” defined in the IRC and, if not, where is it defined?

    Answer: The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals has already ruled that the term “income” is not defined anywhere in the IRC: “The general term ‘income’ is not defined in the Internal Revenue Code.” U.S. v. Ballard, 535 F.2d 400, 404 (8th Circuit, 1976).

    Moreover, in Mark Eisner v. Myrtle H. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920), the high Court told Congress it could not legislate any definition of “income” because that term was believed to be in the U.S. Constitution. The Eisner case was predicated on the ratification of the 16th amendment, which would have introduced the term “income” into the U.S. Constitution for the very first time (but only if that amendment had been properly ratified).

    In Merchant's Loan & Trust Co. v. Smietanka, 255 U.S. 509 (1921), the high Court defined “income” to mean the profit or gain derived from corporate activities. In that instance, the tax is a lawful excise tax imposed upon the corporate privilege of limited liability, i.e. the liabilities of a corporation do not reach its officers, employees, directors or stockholders.

    19. What is municipal law, and are the IRC’s income tax provisions municipal law, or not?

    Answer: Yes. The IRC’s income tax provisions are municipal law. Municipal law is law that is enacted to govern the internal affairs of a sovereign State; in legal circles, it is also known as Private International Law. Under American Law, it has a much wider meaning than the ordinances enacted by the governing body of a municipality, i.e. city council or county board of supervisors. In fact, American legal encyclopedias define “municipal” to mean “internal”, and for this reason alone, the Internal Revenue Code is really a Municipal Revenue Code.

    A mountain of additional evidence has now been assembled and published in the book “The Federal Zone” to prove that the IRC’s income tax provisions are municipal law.

    One of the most famous pieces of evidence is a letter from a Connecticut Congresswoman, summarizing the advice of legal experts employed by the Congressional Research Service and the Legislative Counsel. Their advice confirmed that the meaning of “State” at IRC section 3121(e) is restricted to the named territories and possessions of D.C., Guam, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and Puerto Rico.

    In other words, the term “State” in that statute, and in all similar federal statutes, includes ONLY the places expressly named, and no more.

    20. What does it mean if my State is not mentioned in any of the federal income tax statutes?

    The general rule is that federal government powers must be expressed and enumerated. For example, the U.S. Constitution is a grant of enumerated powers. If a power is not enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, then Congress does not have any authority to exercise that power. This rule is tersely expressed in the Ninth Amendment, in the Bill of Rights.

    If California is not mentioned in any of the federal income tax statutes, then those statutes have no force or effect within that State. This is also true of all 50 States.

    Strictly speaking, the omission or exclusion of anyone or any thing from a federal statute can be used to infer that the omission or exclusion was intentional by Congress. In Latin, this is tersely stated as follows: Inclusio unius est exclusio alterius. In English, this phrase is literally translated: Inclusion of one thing is the exclusion of all other things [that are not mentioned]. This phrase can be found in any edition of Black’s Law Dictionary; it is a maxim of statutory construction.

    The many different definitions of the term “State” that are found in federal laws are intentionally written to appear as if they include the 50 States PLUS the other places mentioned. As the legal experts in Congress have now confirmed, this is NOT the correct way to interpret, or to construct, these statutes.

    If a place is not mentioned, every American may correctly infer that the omission of that place from a federal statute was an intentional act of Congress. Whenever it wants to do so, Congress knows how to define the term “United States” to mean the 50 States of the Union. See IRC section 4612(a)(4)(A).

    21. In what other ways is the IRC deliberately vague, and what are the real implications for the average American?

    There are numerous other ways in which the IRC is deliberately vague. The absence of any legal definition for the term “income” is a classic deception. The IRS enforces the Code as a tax on everything that “comes in,” but nothing could be further from the truth. “Income” is decidedly NOT everything that “comes in.”

    More importantly, the fact that this vagueness is deliberate is sufficient grounds for concluding that the entire Code is null, void and unconstitutional, for violating our fundamental Right to know the nature and cause of any accusation, as guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment in the Bill of Rights.

    Whether the vagueness is deliberate or not, any statute is unconstitutionally void if it is vague. If a statute is void for vagueness, the situation is the same as if it had never been enacted at all, and for this reason it can be ignored entirely.

    22. Has Title 26 of the United States Code (“U.S.C.”) ever been enacted into positive law, and what are the legal implications if Title 26 has not been enacted into positive law?

    Answer: No. Another, less obvious case of deliberate deception is the statute at IRC section 7851(a)(6)(A), where it states that the provisions of subtitle F shall take effect on the day after the date of enactment of “this title”. Because the term “this title” is not defined anywhere in the IRC, least of all in the section dedicated to definitions, one is forced to look elsewhere for its meaning, or to derive its meaning from context.

    Throughout Title 28 of the United States Code -- the laws which govern all the federal courts -- the term “this title” clearly refers to Title 28. This fact would tend to support a conclusion that “this title”, as that term is used in the IRC, refers to Title 26 of the United States Code. However, Title 26 has never been enacted into positive law, as such.

    Even though all federal judges may know the secret meaning of “this title”, they are men and women of uncommon intelligence. The U.S. Supreme Court’s test for vagueness is violated whenever men and women of common intelligence must necessarily guess at the meaning and differ as to the application of a vague statute. See Connally et al. v. General Construction Co., 269 U.S. 385, 391 (1926). Thus, federal judges are applying the wrong test for vagueness.

    Accordingly, the provisions of subtitle F have never taken effect. (“F” is for enForcement!) This subtitle contains all of the enforcement statutes of the IRC, e.g. filing requirements, penalties for failure to file and tax evasion, grants of court jurisdiction over liens, levies and seizures, summons enforcement and so on.

    In other words, the IRC is a big pile of Code without any teeth; as such, it can impose no legal obligations upon anyone, not even people with dentures!

    23. What federal courts are authorized to prosecute income tax crimes?

    This question must be addressed in view of the Answer to Question 22 above. Although it may appear that certain statutes in the IRC grant original jurisdiction to federal district courts, to institute prosecutions of income tax crimes, none of the statutes found in subtitle F has ever taken effect. For this reason, those statutes do not authorize the federal courts to do anything at all. As always, appearances can be very deceiving. Remember the Wizard of Oz or the mad tea party of Alice in Wonderland?

    On the other hand, the federal criminal Code at Title 18, U.S.C., does grant general authority to the District Courts of the United States (“DCUS”) to prosecute violations of the statutes found in that Code. See 18 U.S.C. 3231.

    It is very important to appreciate the fact that these courts are not the same as the United States District Courts (“USDC”). The DCUS are constitutional courts that originate in Article III of the U.S. Constitution. The USDC are territorial tribunals, or legislative courts, that originate in Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution, also known as the Territory Clause.

    This author’s OPENING BRIEF to the Eighth Circuit on behalf of the Defendant in USA v. Gilbertson cites numerous court cases that have already clarified the all important distinction between these two classes of federal district courts. For example, in Balzac v. Porto Rico, 258 U.S. 298 at 312 (1922), the high Court held that the USDC belongs in the federal Territories. This author’s OPENING BRIEF to the Ninth Circuit in Mitchell v. AOL Time Warner, Inc. et al. develops this theme in even greater detail; begin reading at section “7(e)”.

    The USDC, as such, appear to lack any lawful authorities to prosecute income tax crimes. The USDC are legislative tribunals where summary proceedings dominate.

    For example, under the federal statute at 28 U.S.C. 1292, the U.S. Courts of Appeal have no appellate jurisdiction to review interlocutory orders issued by the USDC. Further details on this point are available in the Press Release entitled “Private Attorney General Cracks Title 28 of the United States Code” and dated November 26, 2001 A.D.

    24. Are federal judges required to pay income taxes on their pay, and what are the real implications if they do pay taxes on their pay?

    Answer: No. Federal judges who are appointed to preside on the District Courts of the United States –- the Article III constitutional courts –- are immune from any taxation of their pay, by constitutional mandate.

    The fact that all federal judges are currently paying taxes on their pay is proof of undue influence by the IRS, posing as a duly authorized agency of the Executive Branch. See Evans v. Gore, 253 U.S. 245 (1920).

    Even if the IRS were a lawful bureau or department within the U.S. Department of the Treasury (which they are NOT), the existence of undue influence by the Executive Branch would violate the fundamental principle of Separation of Powers. This principle, in theory, keeps the 3 branches of the federal government confined to their respective areas, and prevents any one branch from usurping the lawful powers that rightly belong to the other two branches.

    The Separation of Powers principle is succinctly defined in Williams v. United States, 289 U.S. 553 (1933); however, in that decision the Supreme Court erred by defining “Party” to mean only Plaintiffs in Article III, contrary to the definition of “Party” that is found in Bouvier’s Law Dictionary (1856).

    The federal judiciary, contemplated by the organic U.S. Constitution, was intended to be independent and unbiased. These two qualities are the essence, or sine qua non of judicial power, i.e. without which there is nothing. Undue influence obviously violates these two qualities. See Evans v. Gore supra.

    In Lord v. Kelley, 240 F.Supp. 167, 169 (1965), the federal judge in that case was honest enough to admit, in his published opinion, that federal judges routinely rule in favor of the IRS, because they fear the retaliation that might result from ruling against the IRS. There you have it, from the horse’s mouth!

    In front of a class of law students at the University of Arizona in January of 1997, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist openly admitted that all federal judges are currently paying taxes on their judicial pay. This writer was an eyewitness to that statement by the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court -– the highest Court in the land.

    Thus, all federal judges are now material witnesses to the practice of concealing the Withholding Exemption Certificate from them, when they were first hired as “employees” of the federal judiciary. As material witnesses, they are thereby disqualified from presiding on all federal income tax cases.

    25. Can federal grand juries issue valid indictments against illegal tax protesters?

    Answer: No. Federal grand juries cannot issue valid indictments against illegal tax protesters. Protest has never been illegal in America, because the First Amendment guarantees our fundamental Right to express our objections to any government actions, in written and in spoken words.

    Strictly speaking, the term “illegal” cannot modify the noun “protesters” because to do so would constitute a violation of the First Amendment in the Bill of Rights, one of the most magnificent constitutional provisions ever written.

    Accordingly, for the term “illegal tax protester” to survive this obvious constitutional challenge, the term “illegal” must modify the noun “tax”. An illegal tax protester is, therefore, someone who is protesting an illegal tax. Such an act of protest is protected by the First Amendment, and cannot be a crime.

    Protest is also recognized and honored by the Uniform Commercial Code; the phrases “under protest” and “without prejudice” are sufficient to reserve all of one’s fundamental Rights at law. See U.C.C. 1-207 (UCCA 1207 in California).

    By the way, the federal U.C.C. is also municipal law. See the Answer to Question 19 above, and 77 Stat. 630, P.L. 88‑243, December 30, 1963 (one month after President John F. Kennedy was murdered).

    26. Do IRS agents ever tamper with federal grand juries, and how is this routinely done?

    Answer: Yes. IRS agents routinely tamper with federal grand juries, most often by misrepresenting themselves, under oath, as lawful employees and “Special Agents” of the federal government, and by misrepresenting the provisions of subtitle F as having any legal force or effect. Such false representations of fact violate Section 43(a) of the Lanham Act, uncodified at 15 U.S.C. 1125(a). (Title 15 of the United States Code has not been enacted into positive law either.)

    They tamper with grand juries by acting as if “income” is everything that “comes in”, when there is no such definition anywhere in the IRC. Such false descriptions of fact also violate Section 43(a) of the Lanham Act.

    They tamper with grand juries by presenting documentary evidence which they had no authority to acquire, in the first instance, such as bank records. Bank signature cards do not constitute competent waivers of their customers’ fundamental Rights to privacy, as secured by the Fourth Amendment. The high standard for waivers of fundamental Rights was established by the U.S. Supreme Court in Brady v. U.S., 397 U.S. 742, 748 (1970).

    IRS agents tamper with grand juries by creating and maintaining the false and fraudulent pretenses that the IRC is not vague, or that the income tax provisions have any legal force or effect inside the 50 States of the Union, when those provisions do not.

    These are all forms of perjury, as well, and possibly also misprision of perjury by omission, i.e. serious federal offenses.

    Finally, there is ample evidence that IRS agents bribe U.S. Attorneys, federal judges, and even the Office of the President with huge kickbacks, every time a criminal indictment is issued by a federal grand jury against an illegal tax protester. (See the Answer to Question 25 above.) These kick‑backs range from $25,000 to $35,000 in CASH! They also violate the Anti-Kickback Act of 1986, which penalizes the payment of kickbacks from federal government subcontractors. See 41 U.S.C. 51 et seq.

    As a trust domiciled in Puerto Rico, the IRS is, without a doubt, a federal government subcontractor that is subject to this Act. See 31 U.S.C. 1321(a)(62). The systematic and premeditated pattern of racketeering by IRS employees also establishes probable cause to dismantle the IRS permanently for violating the Sherman Antitrust Act, first enacted in the year 1890 A.D. See 26 Stat. 209 (1890) (uncodified at 15 U.S.C. 1 et seq.)

    27. What is “The Kickback Racket,” and where can I find evidence of its existence?

    The evidence of this “kickback racket” was first discovered in a table of delegation orders, on a page within the Internal Revenue Manual (“IRM”) -- the internal policy and procedure manual for all IRS employees.

    Subsequently, this writer submitted a lawful request, under the Freedom of Information Act, for a certified list of all payments that had ever been made under color of these delegation orders in the IRM. Mr. Mark L. Zolton, a tax law specialist within the Internal Revenue Service, responded on IRS letterhead, transmitted via U.S. Mail, that few records existed for these “awards” because most of them were paid in cash!

    When this evidence was properly presented to a federal judge, who had been asked to enforce a federal grand jury subpoena against a small business in Arizona, he ended up obstructing all 28 pieces of U.S. Mail we had transmitted to that grand jury.

    Obstruction of correspondence is a serious federal offense, and federal judges have no authority whatsoever to intercept U.S. Mail. See 18 U.S.C. 1702.

    Obviously, the federal judge -- John M. Roll -- did NOT want the grand jury in that case to know anything about these kickbacks. They found out anyway, because of the manner in which this writer defended that small business, as its Vice President for Legal Affairs.

    28. Can the IRS levy bank accounts without a valid court order?

    Answer: No. The Fifth Amendment prohibits all deprivations of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Due Process of Law is another honored and well developed feature of American constitutional practice. Put simply, it requires Notice and Hearing before any property can be seized by any federal government employees, agents, departments or agencies.

    A levy against a bank account is a forced seizure of property, i.e. the funds on deposit in that account. No such seizure can occur unless due process of law has first run its course. This means notice, hearing, and deliberate adjudication of all the pertinent issues of law and fact.

    Only after this process has run its proper or “due” course, can a valid court order be issued. The holding in U.S. v. O’Dell, 160 F.2d 304 (6th Cir. 1947), makes it very clear that the IRS can only levy a bank account after first obtaining a Warrant of Distraint, or court ORDER. And, of course, no court ORDER could ever be obtained unless all affected Parties had first enjoyed their “day in court.”

    29. Do federal income tax revenues pay for any government services and, if so, which government services are funded by federal income taxes?

    Answer: No. The money trail is very difficult to follow, in this instance, because the IRS is technically a trust with a domicile in Puerto Rico. See 31 U.S.C. 1321(a)(62). As such, their records are protected by laws which guarantee the privacy of trust records within that territorial jurisdiction, provided that the trust is not also violating the Sherman Antitrust Act.

    They are technically not an “agency” of the federal government, as that term is defined in the Freedom of Information Act and in the Administrative Procedures Act. The governments of the federal territories are expressly excluded from the definition of “agency” in those Acts of Congress. See 5 U.S.C. 551(1)(C). (See also the Answer to Question 5 above.)

    All evidence indicates that they are a money laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1951 and 1961 et seq.

    They appear to be laundering huge sums of money into foreign banks, mostly in Europe, and quite possibly into the Vatican. See the national policy on money laundering at 31 U.S.C. 5341.

    The final report of the Grace Commission, convened under President Ronald Reagan, quietly admitted that none of the funds they collect from federal income taxes goes to pay for any federal government services. The Grace Commission found that those funds were being used to pay for interest on the federal debt, and income transfer payments to beneficiaries of entitlement programs like federal pension plans.

    P.S. - Did you ever notice: When you put the 2 words "The" and "IRS" together it spells "Theirs."

    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
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    << <i>Deadhorse, I know a little something about tax law, having worked as a tax lawyer earlier in my career. My knowledge of this field isn't based on conspiracy theories or websites run by the uneducated. I don't have the time or inclination to educate you; but if you think you're right, by all means apply your theories and see how fast you follow Peter Schiff's father all the way to jail. For those are willing to be educated as to the true state of the law, this Wikipedia entry does a decent job of rebutting the tax protesters' main arguments.

    Edited to add: Here is another website prepared by an attorney which should resolve all of your doubts. He cites to extensive case law -- feel free to go back and read the cases yourself, if you have any doubts. The author describes his site as:

    "The purpose of this FAQ is to provide concise, authoritative rebuttals to nonsense about the U.S. tax system that is frequently posted on web sites scattered throughout the Internet, by a variety of fanatics, idiots, charlatans, and dupes, frequently referred to by the courts as “tax protesters”." >>



    You can't believe anything you read on the internets, especially Wikipedia.

    EDIT: and you can't believe anything a lawyer says, even if it's not on the internet. LOL
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    All I know is that O.J. would be in jail now if he did not pay his taxes.image
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  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Who's ahead in this pissing match?
  • critocrito Posts: 1,735


    << <i>You might want to read over this: >>



    Yeah, but lawyers have decided that in the context of paying taxes the word "is" means "is not" and vice versa. You, being a lowly peon, aren't qualified to interpret the meaning of the word "is". Only the supreme court can definitively say what any word actually means.
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139


    << <i>Who's ahead in this pissing match? >>



    I dunno. Looks like each side is pissing on the other's shoes.

    Bottom line is that we can't dismantle the system of income tax nor radically alter it, whether it is fundamentally right or wrong. Personal and corporate finances are set up to (hopefully) deal with the system as efficiently and advantageously as possible. Change all the rules and some might be in for windfall after windfall while others will crash and burn. Imagine the mechanism to replace the taxes hitting the guy whose mortgage deduction is then effectively worthless in some other place where he is defenseless.
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Please give me a sympathy bid

    So I can pay taxes with Spam image >>




    Bid placed, only because it's an AU58!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • "Webmaster of the Supreme Law Library"

    Which is what?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  • CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    Sorry Deadhorse but you are deadwrong. Just reconcile yourself to the fact that taxation without representation is tyranny, and taxation with representation sucks too.

    CG
  • Wow, I might want to read this over. Are you kidding? You win the forum "Most Loquacious" award. Yes, I might want to read all this, and I might have a life. G'night

    You might want to read over this:
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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Who's ahead in this pissing match? >>



    Beats me!! But I know I've got a headache after starting to try to read the info..........!

    Deadhorse, you may be totally, completely correct... or not. I don't know....

    The only thing I do know, and the gist of any of my posts, is not to get into any pxxxxxg match as described above. Rather, I am skeptical that an individual will come out a winner in any confrontation with the IRS. Perhaps a person could 'win' a case in court..... but I'll bet the IRS will win in some way in the end. It may take a few years, but I'm willing to wager they will not forget about the individual....

    Just ask OJ..... (of course, the sordid situation with OJ is totally different, but some of the theme is similar. Things can 'catch up' to a person eventually, whether right or wrong).
    ----- kj


  • << <i>Sorry Deadhorse but you are deadwrong. Just reconcile yourself to the fact that taxation without representation is tyranny, and taxation with representation sucks too.

    CG >>



    Actually, I am correct and could cite far more evidence to the fact.

    I am not, nor have I ever been a tax protester. I've been fooled and threatened just like all the rest of us.

    Many people hate to find things like this out because it makes them feel even worse about the way our elected and appointed masters have been treating us all our lives.

    Juries tend to side with the IRS as they too feel threatened and are upset that they have been cheated all these years and are not sympathetic towards someone who is, in fact, exposing the fraud that has been perpetrated on them. "I pay taxes, why should we let this guy off?" is ofen the mindset. Never mind the law or the Constitution.

    You might want to Google up former IRS Special Agent Joe Banister. Very revealing, unless, of course, some folks would rather not know the truth. Sometimes it's rather painful.

    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • Deadhorse, I haven't read anything so hilarious in years: "The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration." I think you should forward this to The Onion and see if they'll publish it. (Or did you get it from The Onion?)
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)


  • << <i>Deadhorse, I haven't read anything so hilarious in years: "The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration." I think you should forward this to The Onion and see if they'll publish it. (Or did you get it from The Onion?) >>



    There is no need to take personal shots. OTOH, didn't you say you were a lawyer? I guess I forgot about the arrogance classes you guys have to pass just to take the BAR.

    You could actually act like an adult and study up on the matter.

    Ignorance really is bliss to an awful lot of people, isn't it?

    Feel free to have the last word. It's too bad that last word won't be able to cite the required laws.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff


  • << <i>There is no need to take personal shots. OTOH, didn't you say you were a lawyer? I guess I forgot about the arrogance classes you guys have to pass just to take the BAR.

    You could actually act like an adult and study up on the matter.

    Ignorance really is bliss to an awful lot of people, isn't it?

    Feel free to have the last word. It's too bad that last word won't be able to cite the required laws. >>



    Arrogance?!? That a lawyer would have a better understanding of the law than this "supreme webmaster" with no law degree and a webpage that hasn't been updated since 1998? You have to admit that you laughed at at least a FEW of the things on that list...
  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    Deadhorse, the first link I posted to the Daniel Evans website answers all of your questions and arguments in mind-numbing detail. Evans is a Stanford- and Ivy League-educated tax lawyer who has been practicing law for decades. I've provided you the link and I'm not going to repeat what he has spelled out.
    "Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)

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