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Smells like fraud to me.... ???

tdfitztdfitz Posts: 95 ✭
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Check out this legit auction (have purchased many items from the seller) first: ebay 200152160855

Now check out this questionable auction: ebay 230171968475

Notice how the same picture was used for both. Only 5 of these have been graded PSA 10 and coincidentally two are up for auction at the same time? What are the odds?

And here is the kicker, a line taken directly from the questionable listing directly: "you bidding here for a married presend from my grandma"
Collecting Nolan Ryan Master, 1968 Basic, and WHA, as well as unused and authentic tickets from 60s-70s rock concerts.

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  • TomGshotputTomGshotput Posts: 1,358


    << <i>Only 5 of these have been graded PSA 10 and coincidentally two are up for auction at the same time? What are the odds? >>



    When the picture is stolen, the odds are pretty good
    Tom
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    100% NO DOUBT FRAUD.. WITH THAT FEED BACK AND A STOLEN PICTURE... NICE CATCH...
    I WOULD REPORT THAT
  • ArmourGuyArmourGuy Posts: 114 ✭
    it looks like a pig and smells like a pig, therefore it is a ___ .
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    Nice catch!

    I noticed quite a few scams going on w/ psa cards and ebay lately... here is one I almost got snukered into

    A few weeks ago I was really tempted to go after this card...

    200122167566

    I didnt because the cert # never checked out against psa's Database on that card and at the time the seller only had 1 feedback and it was a possitive.

    yesterday I just checked out the same sellers feedback to see if I really missed out on a card or not.

    feedback link

    I am so glad I listened to my bad gut feelings on this one...

    Edit Add forgot to add this...

    My question is how can someone fake PSA cards like the one I just pointed out?

    twiley
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    The arod sp and the bonds fleer are the same card in both auctions. How does ebay allow this guy to stay on?
    image
    My eBay Store

    BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭


    << <i>The arod sp and the bonds fleer are the same card in both auctions. How does ebay allow this guy to stay on? >>



    from my experience ebay doesnt care. All they care about is getting all their fees.....
  • daywalker2029daywalker2029 Posts: 126 ✭
    also notice how his pics crop out the edges of the PSA holders - probably where he broke them open
    collecting:
    1990 leaf in (10)
    1986 topps mets (10)
    2008 ring kings cut signatures
    any Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Keith Hernandez cards in (10)
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    O.k. well the clue you all missed was he sold the same exact card within days of each other, let alone the fact it is was scam. If someone lists two or more of the card in the same grade, i always check their auctions to see which one is better in my eyes. Apparently nobody read the cert number for the same exact card multiple times. image
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭


    << <i>O.k. well the clue you all missed was he sold the same exact card within days of each other, let alone the fact it is was scam. If someone lists two or more of the card in the same grade, i always check their auctions to see which one is better in my eyes. Apparently nobody read the cert number for the same exact card multiple times. image >>



    Ahem... I did. image



    << <i>The arod sp and the bonds fleer are the same card in both auctions. How does ebay allow this guy to stay on? >>




    You would think more people would look at things like that, but apparently not. Then again, I have too much time on my hands sometimes.
    image
    My eBay Store

    BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    What's sad is that several people left positive feedback..

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    whats even more sad is the seller scammed $2884.42 just from what was given in feedback. That doesnt count the people who were scammed that never left feedback...

    Thats one hell uv a racket that seller is running...

    edit: for typos
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if PSA knows or cares that this guy is using their products and name to sell bogus items?

    SL
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    You are correct my good man (Envoy). I just read too fast for my own good.image
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    if someone did report these sellers to psa what can psa do about it?

    just curious...

    Unless the seller's whole IP range is banned from ebay's servers the seller can always wack his cable modem(if they are using cable) pull a new IP and create another seller account and continue to scam thousands of dollars.

    Edit add: They also can still get another account if their whole range is banned. There are ways (I have done it) to access servers remotely using lynx or links if they have ssh access to a remote server...

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