All time best second basemen?
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Where exactly does Jeff Kent fit in with the best of all time? His numbers seem to indicate he's among the best all time at his position. Anyone have access to the baseball-reference.com search engine where you can compare all time positional players?
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Fielding - Mazeroski
Overall - Alomar, Sandberg, Gehringer
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I sure do hope that's the answer someday.
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Hornsby 175
Lajoie 150
Collins 141
Morgan 132
Robinson 132
Kent 125
Grich 125
Gehringer 124
Only Hornsby was worse defensively (though Kent is above average), only Grich has played fewer games. So at best, there are at least seven better than him. Biggio was a better fielder and has played in 700 more games. Alomar was one of the best defensive second baseman ever, and Sandberg is only slightly behind him. Even Whitaker won three Gold Gloves to Kent's zero, but unlike almost all the others listed Whitaker was never an MVP candidate.
Right now it looks like Kent could conservatively rank as the 11th best ever. But it is close enough and he was good enough in 2007 to easily move into the top 10 with an outside chance at ending his career around sixth best ever
When Mazeroski was at his very best offensively, he was barely above league average. That takes him out of any discussion among best secondbaseman in history
Do we count Carew as a second baseman or first baseman?
"If I ever decided to do a book, I've already got the title-The Bases Were Loaded and So Was I"-Jim Fregosi
Wasn't this guy brought up as a shortstop? He'll be a pretty decent hitter when he gets to his prime. 20-25 homers and 70-80 RBI's no problem
"If I ever decided to do a book, I've already got the title-The Bases Were Loaded and So Was I"-Jim Fregosi
<< <i>Joe Morgan - hands down. >>
I agree with wondo.
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I'll go with Ryno.
Hornsby was an all-time great hitter, but has nothing else in his favor. The worst defensive middle infielder in the Hall-of-Fame, also played at a time when the level of competition was much lower (segregation, less understanding of sports performance). Interestingly, Hornsby changed teams fairly often and every time he left a team they did better
No other player has statistics or any subjective element that comes close
Harold Reynolds was only half as good as Morgan a player, but three times as good on ESPN