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Is this Roman Caracalla correctly attibuted?

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  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    Looks like it to me.
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like it might be RIC 130 or 130a.
    (RIC=Roman Imperial Coins, a standard catalog)

    Wildwinds online ancient coin database:
    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/caracalla/t.html

    RIC 130:
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    RIC 130a:
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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    That looks like a nice example, VF-25 seems a little harsh to me.
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  • AutomanAutoman Posts: 85
    There seems to be very little wear with practically 100% of the detail remaining. Even given difficulties of grading based on a pic, VF25 is clearly not a correct grade. This looks more like an EF or near EF coin to me.

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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    I asked JP Martin about this one and this is what he said:

    The coin was probably burried new but corrosion had affected the surface to the point that it had to either be net graded or kicked out.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Regardless, I think it's an aesthetically appealing coin (then again, I know exactly squat about collecting ancients and what is considered "original" or "attractive" by experts).
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cameron, what is ICG's policy on net grading? I have had Roman coins BBed for very, very minor corrosion yet they slabbed this coin. Is it just a judgement call like all grading?

    This coin sold on eBay last night for what I think is a very low price. I probably would have been better off cracking it out and selling it raw as AU.

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  • 500Bay500Bay Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin was probably burried new but corrosion had affected the surface to the point that it had to either be net graded or kicked out. >>



    I have two points to add to this:

    1) I wish ICG would list problems for ancients, and have two types/levels of slabs (even an "authentic" slab would be good).
    2) This is exactly why I wish more big ancient dealers would deal in slabbed coins. You would never see "corrosion" listed on the description of that coin. I know I am grateful for a third party opinion of a coin, especially a more valuable ancient.
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