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Walking half - NO AW question

Hi All,

I was looking through some halves that I came across awhile ago and I was looking for varieties. I found what looks to be a 1943 S with NO designer's initials.

The coin does not look to be damaged. It does not have unusual wear in the area where the initials should be. I'm pretty sure I have what I think I have but a few other opinions would be helpful.

If it is, does anyone have a list of known dates and MM combinations?

Thanks,
Billimage

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  • i think its die polish and not an error.
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  • 21Walker21Walker Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭
    It's not listed in the cherry pickers book or the Treasure Hunting Walking Liberty Half Dollars. I know they exist without the designers initials, but are not listed in either book...........Also, your coin doesn't look messed with as the initials are incussed.........Hope this helps a little........Rick
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  • Yes--- This is one of the years and mints with weak or missing designer's initials----caused by excessive die polishing at the mint. It also occurs on 1929 S coins---1945 Philly coins---1941 Proof Walkers and the 1918D coins. Those dates and mints I am certain of----there may be more. Bob [supertooth]
    Bob
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    Maybe you have a discovery coin? At least it looks strange to me.
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  • Thanks for your responses. I'll check around with a few attribution people to see if they have this particular coin in their records.

    Supertooth knows about it as he was very positive in his response and he listed a group of good dates to check, so it must be listed someplace:-) Also, Rick seems to be aware of it too. I'd love to find out to see if there are certain die markers I could use on a coin in this condition.

    Thanks,
    Bill
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have fairly nice example of the 1918-D. The 1943-s exists and I just do not recall the rarity factor

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  • Bill----Your interest sparked me to check Bruce Fox's book on Walkers.

    1918D---Breen 5139

    1929S---Breen 5154

    1938----1939----1940 [Breen 5179]---1941---Breen 5182 1942---All proof issues

    1941

    1942S---Breen 5193

    1943 S--Breen 5200

    1944---Breen 5207

    1945--Breen 5211 and Cone H--01

    1945S

    1947D Breen 5220

    Been awhile since I had checked. Was surprised there were sooooo many. As I said, I can verify the ones that I had listed before as being definite. Bob [supertooth]

    Bob
  • Hi Bob,

    That is a great list, Thanks for checking...Howsabout inverted mintmarks, might their be one listed for 1945 S Walkers? I'm working on a picture even as we speak.

    UPDATE: The pictures proved the possible inverted S on the 1945 S to be normal.

    Thanks Again,
    Bill
  • I found one about 5 years ago in a roll I was searching,,, I'd have to look for it,, I remember it was in the forties date range and it had no mint mark... you could tell it had not been tampered with... I figured it was due to over polished dies...
  • 1938 Proofs also exist with no initials...I've owned this for a number of years:

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    Ken
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1938 Proofs also exist with no initials...I've owned this for a number of years:

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    Ken >>



    Damn! That thing is almost a cameo!
  • That is one Sweet Looking coin!

    Bill
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful Walker... wow... that is one of the best looking Walkers I have seen.. would love to hold that one... Cheers, RickO
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Obverse motto always looks strange to me....IN and WE seem too large.
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow - that is the best cameo contrast I've ever seen on a proof walker. At first glance I thought it was a modern proof eagle!
    And, I'm glad to see so many board members with knowledge and interest in WLH's!
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That PR walker is gorgeous.
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,529 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bill----Your interest sparked me to check Bruce Fox's book on Walkers.

    1918D---Breen 5139

    1929S---Breen 5154

    1938----1939----1940 [Breen 5179]---1941---Breen 5182 1942---All proof issues

    1941

    1942S---Breen 5193

    1943 S--Breen 5200

    1944---Breen 5207

    1945--Breen 5211 and Cone H--01

    1945S

    1947D Breen 5220

    Been awhile since I had checked. Was surprised there were sooooo many. As I said, I can verify the ones that I had listed before as being definite. Bob [supertooth] >>



    I think Supertooth nailed it. There are also a lot more known than indicated in Breen's book. A funny story about one: several years ago I saw a 1929-S in Fine in a dealer's case marked $300. I happened to have an identical coin with me that was for sale. I offered it to him for $30 (90% less than the one he was trying to sell!) He turned it down. I said, "Then it's obvious that you don't really think it's worth $300 then!"

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  • << <i>Yes--- This is one of the years and mints with weak or missing designer's initials----caused by excessive die polishing at the mint. It also occurs on 1929 S coins---1945 Philly coins---1941 Proof Walkers and the 1918D coins. Those dates and mints I am certain of----there may be more. Bob [supertooth] >>



    Hi Bill,Bob is right on the money on this.I have a few,the 45's of coarse,41-S,42-S,43-S and this one,a 1916-S obverse.only one i have found so far.Pics of it first,normal with intials 2nd.Any information on this date without int. would be helpful.

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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Discovered this one today. I didn't realize there was no AW on this 1945 P Walker till I arrived home.
    Bought a couple mixed rolls today mostly 64 Unc Kennedys and a few AU/UNC walkers for $9 bucks each.
    $180 a roll, I like very much. I searched a ton of Walkers and this is my first no AW. Exciting to me but probably
    very common.

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  • That's a great looking example!

    Thanks,
    Bill
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info !!!
    Timbuk3

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