I Sold It not what it's cracked up to be...EVEN MORE PROBLEMS!!!

Guru · July 11, 2007 3:54PM

Last week I purchased what some would consider on here 80's wax junk and some sets from an I Sold It on Ebay auction. Today I get the package. To my dismay the cards were everywhere in the box. All of the factory sealed boxes were ripped. AND...heated about this one...the wax was resealed too. So, I call them and explain to them the negative impact of selling fraudulant merchandise. I told them that if I was not completely refunded I was calling their local police and filing charges. This was after I was denied compensation though. 2 minutes later I get a call back telling me everything has been refunded and I can keep the merchandise as long as I promise not to file charges.
Fishy....?

EagleEyeKid · July 11, 2007 4:29PM

All of the factory sealed boxes were ripped. AND...heated about this one...the wax was resealed too.

Pretty sad when someone wants to reseal that junk.
Is Gary on I Sold It also?

JohnnyD · July 11, 2007 6:12PM

I learned my lesson with "Isoldit" when I paid a small fortune in shipping for a couple cards...cards were not as nice as described either. Now when I see the Isoldit format when I open an auction, I bail...

jimq112 · July 11, 2007 6:50PM

I have 1 negative on ebay - from an isoldit consignment store.

yankeeno7 · July 11, 2007 9:33PM

<< I learned my lesson with "Isoldit" when I paid a small fortune in shipping for a couple cards...cards were not as nice as described either. Now when I see the Isoldit format when I open an auction, I bail... >>

Same here!

carew4me · July 11, 2007 9:56PM

calling their local police and filing charges

Please call the police and tell them the modern crap you bought was not in the condition you expected.

and tape the response.... I would love to hear it.

Jesus Christ.

yankeeno7 · July 11, 2007 10:04PM

Carew4Me
He did get the response he wanted though! Just because you say you are going to do it doesnt mean you really will. I see nothing wrong with a little "push" to get what you have coming back to you because of someone being fraudulent.

Sure the seller could have been a bit smarter and told him to prove it. Maybe it just wasnt worth it to him to be hassled. Or the seller was dumb enough to worry about the cops being called...maybe he already has some sort of felony or mail fraud?

Either way, Guru got a response. Sure he was lucky but he got it!

sagard · July 11, 2007 10:57PM

Isoldit is a last ditch consignment place for people who are too embarassed to sell the item themselves.

stown · July 11, 2007 11:21PM

Just out of curiosity, how much did they charge for shipping?

packCollector · July 11, 2007 11:46PM

I guess I am in the minority , I bought from an isoldit once , and got some phenomenal cards.

i do not think this is the norm , they were selling a large oddball collection which was from an honest consignor. I suspect most of the time when they sell collectibles , it is from shady characters trying to have someone without expertise dump their junk.

Treetop · July 11, 2007 11:56PM

it is from shady characters trying to have someone without expertise dump their junk.

This reminds me of a situation with one of my local card shops I visit. I normally go there for supplies, and the owner knows I'm into vintage. The card shop mainly gathers to moderm collectors. Any ways, I go in one day and he tells me he bought a few hundred vintage commons in high grade from a walk in. Said he paid a pretty penny for the cards and wondered if I would be interested. I said sure and I started to go through the cards and quickly realized that just about every card had a micro flaw. The cards look like 7-8's at first glance, but in reality, they were mostly 5-6 range. Obviously someone that knew what they were doing dumped the cards on the shop owner

I felt bad for the card shop owner, I could tell he thought he had some true gems.

Leiascards · July 12, 2007 12:11AM

The call to the police migh havegone like this one..

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However selling items that are fraudlent is illegal so there is an actual crime there, they probaly called around and looked into the legalities of the problem and decided a refund would be cheaper for them in the matter. Does not matter if the item was 5 cents or 5000 dollars its still fraud.

Carew-Just because you think you are ABOVE collectors of modern "Junk" does not mean it is crap to all.

markj111 · July 12, 2007 12:30AM

My experience has been different. I received some very nice 71s from an Isoldit store. Most received 8s, including a couple of low pops. The seller did an outstanding job with the pictures. Unfortunately he has not had anymore high quality cards.

colebear · July 12, 2007 3:40AM

<< calling their local police and filing charges

Please call the police and tell them the modern crap you bought was not in the condition you expected.

and tape the response.... I would love to hear it.

Jesus Christ. >>

nice!! just what the hobby needs, more people that do not respect others preferences.

Estil · July 12, 2007 6:00AM

Indeed, a rip off is a rip off, whether there's $30 or $30,000 involved.

bjork73 · July 12, 2007 6:00AM

<< 

<< calling their local police and filing charges

Please call the police and tell them the modern crap you bought was not in the condition you expected.

and tape the response.... I would love to hear it.

Jesus Christ. >>

nice!! just what the hobby needs, more people that do not respect others preferences. >>

He has a history of that, in more than one way... seriously, why the need to crap in other people's Cheerios?

Guru · July 12, 2007 8:22AM

Wow, I didn't expect to come and find all these responses. As for Mr. Carew4me, don't worry guys. He obviously thinks he's the son of God. I mean, he signed his name as Jesus Christ.
Mr. Carew4me, if you really are indeed the son of God, could I please PM you? I have a lot of questions that I would like an answer to and I'm not really wanting to wait around till the end of life for those answers? Is that okay? I was just wondering.

P.S.: That whole rising from the dead thing is pretty cool!

bjork73 · July 12, 2007 2:56PM

<< Wow, I didn't expect to come and find all these responses. As for Mr. Carew4me, don't worry guys. He obviously thinks he's the son of God. I mean, he signed his name as Jesus Christ.
Mr. Carew4me, if you really are indeed the son of God, could I please PM you? I have a lot of questions that I would like an answer to and I'm not really wanting to wait around till the end of life for those answers? Is that okay? I was just wondering.

P.S.: That whole rising from the dead thing is pretty cool! >>

Back to what the thread was originally about, you certainly didn't do anything wrong, and the result was positive. And now we all know ISoldIt is bigtime caveat emptor

jmbkb4 · July 13, 2007 1:11AM

<< calling their local police and filing charges

Please call the police and tell them the modern crap you bought was not in the condition you expected.

and tape the response.... I would love to hear it.

Jesus Christ. >>

OK. I think rod carew is an idiot.

carew4me · July 13, 2007 6:15AM

Come on clowns.

I do share some traits with my main man JC.

The main one is, I tell the truth. When I read that someone is "calling their local police and filing charges" I laugh my arse off.

Do as I said, call the cops, tell them an IsoldIt store ripped you off on Ebay. Tell them that while they DID send you the items pictured,
they were "everywhere in the box"

and All of the factory sealed boxes were ripped

AND...the wax was resealed too

PLEASE RECORD THEIR RESPONSE. They are professionals, they care....YOU will be having your salad tosseD within 72 hours

Some of you clowns need to stop the "kick his a*s man" behavior, while you safely tucked in the crowd

I probably should not have said modern crap...that I do apologize for. (even though it was........wait for it.......wait......MODERN CRAP!)

zef204 · July 13, 2007 7:07AM

<< Come on clowns.

I do share some traits with my main man JC.

The main one is, I tell the truth. When I read that someone is "calling their local police and filing charges" I laugh my arse off.

Do as I said, call the cops, tell them an IsoldIt store ripped you off on Ebay. Tell them that while they DID send you the items pictured,
they were "everywhere in the box"

and All of the factory sealed boxes were ripped

AND...the wax was resealed too

PLEASE RECORD THEIR RESPONSE. They are professionals, they care....YOU will be having your salad tosseD within 72 hours

Some of you clowns need to stop the "kick his a*s man" behavior, while you safely tucked in the crowd

I probably should not have said modern crap...that I do apologize for. (even though it was........wait for it.......wait......MODERN CRAP!) >>

Go play in traffic.

Leiascards · July 13, 2007 7:15AM

OOPS.. MY bad..

cohocorp · July 13, 2007 7:15AM

i got reamed on shipping also. my own fault though, the charges werent posted, no link to calculator either. i should have emailed and asked. i never imagined $14 for shipping for 1 auction of 6 loose cards. the least they could have done was throw in some lube to ease the pain. never again.

TNTonPMS · July 13, 2007 9:53AM

<< it is from shady characters trying to have someone without expertise dump their junk.

This reminds me of a situation with one of my local card shops I visit. I normally go there for supplies, and the owner knows I'm into vintage. The card shop mainly gathers to moderm collectors. Any ways, I go in one day and he tells me he bought a few hundred vintage commons in high grade from a walk in. Said he paid a pretty penny for the cards and wondered if I would be interested. I said sure and I started to go through the cards and quickly realized that just about every card had a micro flaw. The cards look like 7-8's at first glance, but in reality, they were mostly 5-6 range. Obviously someone that knew what they were doing dumped the cards on the shop owner

I felt bad for the card shop owner, I could tell he thought he had some true gems. >>

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Hmmm, I think he knew exactly what he bought , or brought out for you or someone like you that likes to look for vintage , he figures he'll move them on the less educated .

These guys are the used car salesmen of the sportscard/memorabilia industry and at the top of their game in the trade .

I had one guy rippin packs, pulling out anything good and sliding them back in the packs to reseal a few years ago, I had spent thou$and$ with this guy and never went back after that little humdinger . . .

Things are not always as they seem

CDsNuts · July 13, 2007 10:05AM

Leia, wrong Carew guy.

I probably should not have said modern crap...that I do apologize for. (even though it was........wait for it.......wait......MODERN CRAP!)........ says the guy who paid for or paid grading fees for the following cards:

1985 TOPPS STICKERS ROD CAREW PSA 7
1985 TOPPS STICKERS ROD CAREW PSA 8
1986 TOPPS ROD CAREW PSA 9
1984 FLEER STICKERS ROD CAREW PSA 8
1984 FLEER STICKERS ROD CAREW PSA 8
1984 FLEER STICKERS ROD CAREW PSA 8
1983 TOPPS STICKERS ROD CAREW PSA 8
1983 O-PEE-CHEE ROD CAREW PSA 8
1983 FLEER STICKERS ROD CAREW 8

WinPitcher · July 13, 2007 10:47AM

nevermind lee beat me.

Steve

stown · July 13, 2007 11:17AM

How much was the shipping, Guru??

Guru · July 13, 2007 1:46PM

Shipping was $34.56 via FedEx.
As far as staying in the crowd and not whipping out my "I'm gonna kick your arse behavior"; well...I'm your huckleberry. 'Cause, that's just my game.

TheCARDKid · July 13, 2007 1:50PM

I don't know if I'd buy much from places like Isoldit.

Maybe dvd's or music, but they don't have the expertise for collectibles or one of a kinds.

Guru · July 13, 2007 2:12PM

Okay...I'm getting to the end of my rope about this stuff. NOTE TO MEMBERS...STAY AWAY FROM I SOLD IT!!! So tonight I actually have a chance to sit down and thoroughly go through everything. There were 5 sets of 1989 Topps Traded with the auction. NONE OF THEM HAVE THE GRIFFEY JR. CARDS!!!! It even says on the top of the box, "Griffey Jr. Out of box".
I called to leave a message there and someone picked up. The manager of course. She told me she was tired of dealing with the situation and that it stipulates in the auction that it was sold As Is. I told her that not including things like wax packs being resealed and not including missing cards and saying they were complete sets is pretty crappy. She told me to get over it and call a lawyer if I was going to be that pissed. I called her a b*tch and told her she wasn't worth the ground she was standing on and then hung up.
I shouldn't be suprised about this kind of stuff. I mean, I've had a pretty awesome buying streak for the last year without any hassle's. I knew it was coming sooner or later.
I filed a report with the BBB tonight online for there store though. So maybe some good will come of it. Who knows. Just kinda depressed that I got had.

grote15 · July 13, 2007 2:17PM

Guru,

I'd sincerely hope that after all that you'd at least leave a detailed NEG to warn other buyers about these thieves.

lawnmowerman · July 13, 2007 2:35PM

I got this great Emmitt from an isoldit. It was raw. Also shippped very good.

Ahmanfan · July 13, 2007 3:06PM

Guru- in the end, didnt you just end up with a box full of free cards?

yankeeno7 · July 13, 2007 3:08PM

I will have to say that there are a couple of ISOLDIT sellers that had great FB and fair shipping. I know that isnt the norm. Like anything other seller, just have to take a good long look at their terms and FB.

grote15 · July 13, 2007 3:10PM

Guru- in the end, didnt you just end up with a box full of free cards?

I was wondering about this, too. Didn't you get a full refund already?

Even so, it's very lame they'd screw over a buyer like that by misreprsenting the auction item(s). Sounds like it's luck of the draw with them.

Leiascards · July 13, 2007 3:17PM

you got a full refund and got the items. What more did you want from them?

contacting the BBB was a waste of time IMHO they have no power or authority.

Guru · July 13, 2007 3:28PM

I did. I was just trying to drive the point home. I didn't feel like I could let people get away with this without knowing what I think. I think I was just really pissed and wanted them to know. I mean, I not so into myself where I think my opinion counts, but I had to say something. It was a total rip in my opinion.

grote15 · July 13, 2007 3:45PM

I didn't feel like I could let people get away with this without knowing what I think. I think I was just really pissed and wanted them to know. I mean, I not so into myself where I think my opinion counts, but I had to say something. It was a total rip in my opinion.

Why haven't you left them negative Fb then?

Guru · July 13, 2007 3:47PM

I haven't yet because I have 100% positive and I really don't want that to change.

grote15 · July 13, 2007 3:50PM

I haven't yet because I have 100% positive and I really don't want that to change.

So you go through all this trouble, calling them, cursing them out, calling the BBB, but won't warn others where it counts? I'm sorry, that's just lame, IMO.

Thulnanth · July 13, 2007 8:44PM

Have to agree, that's why the feedback system on eBay doesn't work as it should - people are too afraid of the retaliatory neg. and want to protect their 100% rating

yankeeno7 · July 13, 2007 9:06PM

Just the nature of the beast, guys. Would be nice if it really worked like that and the deserving got the negatives.

That is why so many have separate buying and selling accounts.

WinPitcher · July 14, 2007 12:01AM

If after you got a full refund why did you even bother to call them a second time?

Steve

1980scollector · July 14, 2007 12:02AM

let me get this straight

they gave him a 100% refund? he is still calling them about being unhappy? he wont even leave a negative feedback after the calls?

I think if they gave a 100% refund they do not deserve a negative but I thought it was odd he was still calling them and throwing out vulgar names etc. after he got his money back?

Am I mistaken about the refund?

WinPitcher · July 14, 2007 12:05AM

Nope not mistaken, he got the refund.

And even if you get a refund I can still think of situations where a negative is warranted. This being one of them.

Steve

jlbsquared · July 14, 2007 12:48AM

<< I think if they gave a 100% refund they do not deserve a negative but I thought it was odd he was still calling them and throwing out vulgar names etc. after he got his money back? >>

Leiascards · July 14, 2007 1:07AM

I agree the feedback system is flawed, but cases like this make me wonder about those who have 100% I see so many people who don't want to hurt their precious 100%. No wonder scammers target these type sellers they view them as pushovers and I hate to say it many are because they care more about their 100% than what is right.

If you respond professionaly to the neg then I guarantee it will not hurt you one bit.

WinPitcher · July 14, 2007 2:04AM

I agree the phone call was unwarranted, however, a neg in this situation is.

Just because a seller refunds money does not make the situation right. Time lost, expectations not met, etc etc etc.

Steve

preownedautos · July 14, 2007 2:11AM

Leiascards,

I see it a little different. I have 2700+ feedback (100% positive) and yes, I want to protect it. Nobody just gave that to me, I earned it over a period of a long time. Feedback rating is just like your credit rating. Both are a reflection of how trustworthy you are. You do want to protect your credit rating don't you? So why wouldn't people want to protect their feedback rating?

I believe 100% feedback rating helps me realize more of a profit (sorry for that dirty word) on my items. I use that to my advantage. I end every one of my item descriptions the same way, “Please check my perfect feedback and bid with confidence!” It works for me!

I have two ebay accounts like a lot of members do. Where most of those members do their buying and selling from different accounts, I do all of it from one account. My second account I have ONLY to give negative feedback. If a seller wrongs me, I just don't leave them feedback - I don't want that retaliatory feedback. That's where the second eBay account comes in. I just buy a cheap item from them, pay for it and when it comes in I blast them with the negative. They never know who did it or why. Kinda leaves them scratching their head and I get the same satisfaction.

stown · July 14, 2007 2:34AM

<< My second account I have ONLY to give negative feedback. If a seller wrongs me, I just don't leave them feedback - I don't want that retaliatory feedback. That's where the second eBay account comes in. I just buy a cheap item from them, pay for it and when it comes in I blast them with the negative. They never know who did it or why. Kinda leaves them scratching their head and I get the same satisfaction. >>

Way to stick it to the man

WinPitcher · July 14, 2007 2:48AM

Pre owned 2 wrongs do not make a right. What happens if a seller that wronged you on a hi dollar item does not sell 'cheap' items? I as a buyer do not hold negatives that sellers get in retaliation against them.

Not sure I understand your thinking on that one. But if it works for you that is all that matters.

Steve

I Sold It not what it's cracked up to be...EVEN MORE PROBLEMS!!!

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