Pedigrees?

QBert

Are pedigree names like tradmarks? Do they belong to the owner once they are used/registered?

sonoranmonsoon

Sort of. You can not use someone elses pedigree name. So in that sense, Yes.

onlyroosies

If you want to have a pedigree removed just send the coin back to PCGS for reholder. If
you want to put your pedigree on a coin that has been previously pedigreed by someone else
you can have your name and the previous name put on the holder or have the previous
removed and replaced with your name.

LindeDad

Doesn't your set have to be at a certain ranking level or completion level to get Pedigree service? I was looking but could not find the info.

Steve27

"A valuable pedigree. In the rare coin market a pedigree is a contributing factor in the pride of ownership and value of the coin. Coins from famous collections such as Eliasberg, Norweb, Garrett, etc., usually command a premium in the marketplace. If you participate in the PCGS Set Registry program your set may qualify for the free pedigree service. The free pedigree service policy is as follows:

* The set must be 100% complete.
* The set must be in the top 5 in the Registry.
* PCGS does not pedigree modern Mint and Proof sets (1965-present) or Low Ball sets.
* Sets with less than 10 coins may be pedigreed if warranted. The decision will be that of PCGS experts.
* The Registry member is responsible for shipping and handling costs.
* The fee for pedigrees for upgrades to your set submitted after the initial pedigree is $5 a coin ($20 a coin for coins graded MS or Proof 70.) PCGS will not pedigree duplicate coins. You must submit both the upgraded coin and the coin it will be replacing. The coin that will no longer remain in your set will be reholdered without the pedigree and returned to you along with the newly pedigreed coin. Your set must remain 100% complete and in the top five to qualify.


To confirm that your set qualifies for the free Pedigree Service, contact customer service at setregistry@pcgs.com. Then mail with your coins a PCGS submission form and a printed page from the set registry that lists your set in the top five.
Please note: Pedigrees can be up to 22 characters in length. If the coin has a variety designation (i.e. Type 1, Type 2, etc.), this is included as part of the total character count. Indicate on your submission form if you would like your coins sequentially numbered. PCGS no longer certifies coins with green inserts. "

QBert

Does top five mean "All Time" or "Current Finest"?

fcloud

I'm pretty sure it is current. The last set I sent in I was fifth overall and fourth current. I made my requst as fifth, but they reconginzed it as fourth.

LindeDad

Steve27 Thanks for getting the info. Knew I had seen it before but could not find it earlier.

QBert

Are you required to send the entire set in all at once initially? Or can you pick out which coins from it to have pedigreed?

fcloud

You can pick and choose, but once you send in some coins you will need to pay a fee per coin on whatever you didn't send in the first time. The first set I sent in I send all six coins. The second set I sent in I sent 75 out of 80 coins. If you have upgrades you will need to send in the old coin, so they can remove the pedigree as they move it to your new set.

ajia

What would happen if you sold a pedigreed coin because you upgraded, then sent in the upgraded coin for pedigree?
Guess unless the new owner of the upgraded coin agreed to remove the pedigree you'd be SOL.

fcloud

<< <i>What would happen if you sold a pedigreed coin because you upgraded, then sent in the upgraded coin for pedigree?
Guess unless the new owner of the upgraded coin agreed to remove the pedigree you'd be SOL. >>



Yep. By their rules they would not pedigree an upgrade unless you had the original coin to have the pedigree removed.

mansco

What would happen if you sold a pedigreed coin because you upgraded, then sent in the upgraded coin for pedigree?
Guess unless the new owner of the upgraded coin agreed to remove the pedigree you'd be SOL. >>



Yep. By their rules they would not pedigree an upgrade unless you had the original coin to have the pedigree removed.


Could you retire the set and start over new?

fcloud

Yes, you could retire the set, but the coins that are in a retired set are not eligible to be in a new set. You would really be starting new.

MoneyLA

years ago when I got an upgraded coin, I had it pedigreed by paying a fee... the previous coin was sold.

how would anyone but you know that the "replaced coin" had been sold in the original pedigreed holder?

cheers, Alan Mendelson
(former #1 proof Washington silver owner)

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Boom

Woah! Now I have a question about pedigrees.

How is it The Omaha Bank Hoard is pedigreed all over the place, across all denominations, yet there isn't even

one complete set in any category that ranks with the top 5 All Time Greatest?

LindeDad

How is it The Omaha Bank Hoard is pedigreed all over the place, across all denominations, yet there isn't even

Heritage house coins to fill out there auctions?

Edited to add it is not a true pedigree!!!!!

fcloud

PCGS will pedigree major collections if they seem fit. The set registry is a different set of rules.

Boom

<< <i>PCGS will pedigree major collections if they seem fit. >>



Well, I guess that answers that!