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First report from Long Beach Show

BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
Light traffic on Thursday. Many dealers seemed to just be staring at the ceiling.

Classic Commemoratives were flat to soft. The two tier market appears to be expanding.

PQ coins were drawing high prices while hum drum coins were flat to soft. As an example

I sold three PCGS AU-58 PQ Capped Bust Halves for 1500 dollars each. The fourth specimen

was a PCGS MS-62 PQ crusted for 2500 dollars. Once purchased, the four coins were sold

within 10 minutes to another dealer.Overall, the market did not seem particularly strong

for anything but premium quality coins. Other lesser grades were a hard sell unless discounted.

I have a matched, color set of Barber Halves, in VF-35 to XF-40. Had I brought them to the show

and if I intended to sell them, would have brought well over ask for the set. Thisa is indeed a strange market.

There is apparent manipulation of auction prices by sophisticated bidding used to run prices up for friends, that may

giving a false sense of security to coins bringing unusually high prices. Nice looking coins are bringing retail prices in

the stratosphere. It is somewhat doubtful,if those purchasing such coins will be able to dig them selves out ,any time soon.


This is generally considered the weakest of the various Long Beach Shows and this must be considered when one tries to

determine the direction of the market. Mark Feld was working the Isles but I was not able to catch up to him. I spent some time

with Mike from Larry Whitlow as well as Wayne Herndon . As usual, I sold some nice Barber Halves to Wayne at a very fair price

as well as a lovely Bust Quarter in AU-55 toned and a Bust Dime in AU-58 toned. So much for the morning report.
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    Thanks for the early report Bearimage



    << <i>Classic Commemoratives were flat to soft. >>


    I like the Classic Commem series. Glad I'm holding what I have. They'll have their day in the sun. Just hope I'm around to see it.image




    << <i>Mark Feld, Mike Printz, Wayne Herndon >>


    I see you run with the bestimage
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Nice report. Thank you Bear.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Bear... always enjoy reading show reports... Cheers, RickO
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great report, Bear, thanks.

    There is apparent manipulation of auction prices by sophisticated bidding used to run prices up for friends, that may

    giving a false sense of security to coins bringing unusually high prices.


    Gee, I'd like to know more about this. image
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    ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭
    Gotta echo Bear's comments - just got home and the show was pretty flat......dropped some coins at NGC, wandered for several hours, and just nothing to buy.....some marginal coins bt priced way above marginal....PASS!
    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,944 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great report, Bear, thanks.

    There is apparent manipulation of auction prices by sophisticated bidding used to run prices up for friends, that may

    giving a false sense of security to coins bringing unusually high prices.


    Gee, I'd like to know more about this. image >>



    Yes, please comment further on this topic.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    If I say too much, I could end up with

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    fcfc Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭
    good report. thanks.
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    Thanks for the info. Great report!
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Once purchased, the four coins were sold within 10 minutes to another dealer

    Next time, maybe consider bringing the coins to "another dealer" first! image

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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the report Bear!
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice report Bear. Nice results on those choice AU's.

    Considering that bears can run up to 25-30 mph I can't see why you had any trouble tracking down Mr. Feld.

    roadrunner
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    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    The reason I did not go to the subsequent dealer is that I did not know

    who he was. The advantage of having a reputable dealer such as Larry Whitlow

    handle the deal, is that they know all of the specialty dealers for particular types of coins.

    These are the small vest pocket specialists that will pay the very highest prices.
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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the report bear, wish I could be there
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    curlycurly Posts: 2,880


    Thank you for the report, brother Bear.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Happened to check out the dimes to halves on the Goldberg sale prices realized. Somewhat disappointing in that if the coin wasn't sort of wild, it didn't bring a strong price. Bust halves in slabbed 64 were down in $2500-$3000 range. Seems weaker than previous sales. Yet the killer AU's were fetching $1800-$2300. Seated and barber material as a whole seemed weak. Barber 25c in PCGS MS65 only at $850. Seated dime in NGC MS65 at barely over $500. Seems that quality meant everything. And if you had average quality, no go. A 1795 half in PCGS F15 for around $2000. It seemed those were bringing closer to $2500 not long ago.

    Impressive was the $27K+ for a PF67 NGC 1873 no arrows half.
    That's normally a $6K coin. This one was very pretty. Maybe someone thinking PF68 at PCGS on that one....or just 2 gotstohaveit
    bidders. Prices like that seemed far and few between. An 1866-s dime in MS65 NGC fetched $18,000. Rather strong imo as 66-s dimes
    are available from time to time.

    roadrunner

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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,795 ✭✭✭
    The show reports are always a fun read.

    Keep them coming.

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    etexmike

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