Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal. The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation." TD
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal. The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation." TD >>
The reason they were illegal was simply because they "promoted" the 20th Century Fox movie. They were altered and then put into circulation to promote the upcoming movie.
Colorizing US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins to promote your business IS illegal.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal. The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation." TD >>
The reason they were illegal was simply because they "promoted" the 20th Century Fox movie. They were altered and then put into circulation to promote the upcoming movie.
Colorizing US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins to promote your business IS illegal. >>
On a somewhat related note (pardon the pun), I remember that a lot of $2 bills were used by Clemson fans at bowl games that had a tiger paw stamped on them to show the purchasing power/team spirit of the fans when at a bowl game. Technically, was that legal?
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal. The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation." TD >>
The reason they were illegal was simply because they "promoted" the 20th Century Fox movie. They were altered and then put into circulation to promote the upcoming movie.
Colorizing US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins to promote your business IS illegal. >>
On a somewhat related note (pardon the pun), I remember that a lot of $2 bills were used by Clemson fans at bowl games that had a tiger paw stamped on them to show the purchasing power/team spirit of the fans when at a bowl game. Technically, was that legal? >>
The legality of this is unknown to me but I would guess that as long as the "stamp" didn't direct the observer to a "for profit" business venture that it could be considered simple defacing of the bill.
The "Where's George" web site does something similar but its for tracking the travels of registered bills.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
Goldbully's link above will lead you to this statement from the mint. It seems the mint simply wants to distance itself.
Source: The New England Mint Not colorized by the United States Mint
It has come to the attention of the United States Mint that several private commercial businesses are advertising so-called “Barack Obama Presidential $1 Coins,” as well as commemorative half-dollar coins, American Eagle Silver Coins and multi-coin sets bearing images of the President-Elect. These advertisements feature genuine United States coins that the private commercial businesses have altered by affixing a colorized image to the coin. Additionally, some businesses have treated the coins by gold-plating them.
These items are not official United States Mint products. Furthermore, these products, businesses, and advertisements are not approved, endorsed, sponsored, or authorized by the United States Mint, the Department of the Treasury, or the United States Government.
The United States Mint receives frequent inquiries from the public concerning its position on the industry practice of superimposing colorized images—such as those of prominent public figures, celebrities, or cartoon characters—on genuine United States coins. The United States Mint does not encourage, endorse, or sponsor products that alter the fundamental images depicted on its coins. Congress itself mandates by statute the design themes and inscriptions that appear on United States coins. A superimposed image is entirely different from and obscures the coin's original design.
WTF should they care about it? Are they going to subpoena the wheresgeorge.com records next? I suspect they might be holding out for the potential to sell the reverses of coins for advertising space at a later date to pump in the bucks. Too bad for them that they don't have a corporation supportive administration and congress these days.
edited to add: Forgot this was an old story/thread.
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Mint threatens fines for Silver Surfer quarter
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please)
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal.
The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation."
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Yes I think that was the reason.
<< <i>"Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation >>
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal.
The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation."
TD >>
The reason they were illegal was simply because they "promoted" the 20th Century Fox movie. They were altered and then put into circulation to promote the upcoming movie.
Colorizing US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins to promote your business IS illegal.
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TD >>
<< <i>Anyone got a picture of one of these quarters? >>
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
Obama Joke Coinage and the Mint
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal.
The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation."
TD >>
The reason they were illegal was simply because they "promoted" the 20th Century Fox movie. They were altered and then put into circulation to promote the upcoming movie.
Colorizing US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins to promote your business IS illegal. >>
On a somewhat related note (pardon the pun), I remember that a lot of $2 bills were used by Clemson fans at bowl games that had a tiger paw stamped on them to show the purchasing power/team spirit of the fans when at a bowl game. Technically, was that legal?
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<< <i>Just turned off one of the shopping channels in disgust after watching Montel Williams prostituting himself for a set of Obama colorized/stickered coins.
How is it that the Silver Surfer "coin" (colorization actually) in the OP was denounced by the mint as illegal, yet the shopping channels are rife with Obama's image being applied to state quarters, Kennedy halves and presidential dollars? Wouldn't these "coins" fall into the same category?
What makes them legal compared to the Silver Surfer coin? Is it solely the fact that the Silver Surfer coin was advertising? Conceivably then, if someone wants to colorize U.S. coinage en masse without promotional purposes, that's ok?
I shudder to think of all the people in for a rude awakening years from now when they take these "coins" to a dealer to make their fortune...
(no politics please) >>
I'm not sure, but I think that the difference is that the Obama coins, like the 9/11/2001 coins and other stick-on issues, were removed from circulation and sold as novelties. I have some Kennedy halves that were made into push-out coins in my window that are also legal.
The "Silver Surfer" coins were returned to circulation after being "rendered unfit for circulation." I remember an ANA convention up in Milwaukee where a certain candidate for Governor counterstamped several rolls of quarters and arranged for the snack bar in the convention center to give them out in change. Guess what? Because of the counterstamping, they would no longer work in vending machines. They were "unfit for circulation."
TD >>
The reason they were illegal was simply because they "promoted" the 20th Century Fox movie. They were altered and then put into circulation to promote the upcoming movie.
Colorizing US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins is not illegal.
Putting stickers on US coins to promote your business IS illegal. >>
On a somewhat related note (pardon the pun), I remember that a lot of $2 bills were used by Clemson fans at bowl games that had a tiger paw stamped on them to show the purchasing power/team spirit of the fans when at a bowl game. Technically, was that legal? >>
The legality of this is unknown to me but I would guess that as long as the "stamp" didn't direct the observer to a "for profit" business venture that it could be considered simple defacing of the bill.
The "Where's George" web site does something similar but its for tracking the travels of registered bills.
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Source: The New England Mint
Not colorized by the United States Mint
It has come to the attention of the United States Mint that several private commercial businesses are advertising so-called “Barack Obama Presidential $1 Coins,” as well as commemorative half-dollar coins, American Eagle Silver Coins and multi-coin sets bearing images of the President-Elect. These advertisements feature genuine United States coins that the private commercial businesses have altered by affixing a colorized image to the coin. Additionally, some businesses have treated the coins by gold-plating them.
These items are not official United States Mint products. Furthermore, these products, businesses, and advertisements are not approved, endorsed, sponsored, or authorized by the United States Mint, the Department of the Treasury, or the United States Government.
The United States Mint receives frequent inquiries from the public concerning its position on the industry practice of superimposing colorized images—such as those of prominent public figures, celebrities, or cartoon characters—on genuine United States coins. The United States Mint does not encourage, endorse, or sponsor products that alter the fundamental images depicted on its coins. Congress itself mandates by statute the design themes and inscriptions that appear on United States coins. A superimposed image is entirely different from and obscures the coin's original design.
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