Few TRULY exceptional coins exist - this is one.
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This is certainly worth a view. Talk about frosty devices and mirrored fields! For me this one scores 9.85 out of 10 (I don't give out 10s) and takes WOW to new heights. Not my coin, nor my picture (of course). No affiliation, irons-in-the-fire, etc. (no spam disclaimer).
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title edditted for speling.
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title edditted for speling.
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–John Adams, 1826
–John Adams, 1826
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60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
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Too bad it's just silver bullion!!!
Those coins truly are exceptional.
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–John Adams, 1826
<< <i>Roll of cameo proof Morgans, hands down. >>
Yepper.
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Rex
<< <i>What I have to say about this Morgan is .
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<< <i>Yeah, yeah...but will it cross? >>
Will anyone crack it and try for a 70?
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bob
<< <i>What would you rather have; the 1913 $5 million dollar nickel or a roll of proof Morgans like those? >>
The 1913 hands down. Roll quantities don't interest me in the least.
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<< <i>What would you rather have; the 1913 $5 million dollar nickel or a roll of proof Morgans like those? >>
The 1913 hands down. Roll quantities don't interest me in the least. >>
Besides, what fun is collecting a Box of 20 when they are all the same?
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<< <i>Yeah, yeah...but will it cross? >>
Will anyone crack it and try for a 70? >>
No problem -- send it to SGS or ICG
Rex
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<< <i>Yeah, yeah...but will it cross? >>
Will anyone crack it and try for a 70? >>
No problem -- send it to SGS or ICG >>
I doubt anyone would crack that to try to get a 70 at SGS or ICG. I might be wrong, but I highly doubt it
in their inventory? probably longer then collectors have held onto it
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In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
–John Adams, 1826
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
i'd take a roll of those easy, you guys can have your nickel and all the extra pocket change.....lol
–John Adams, 1826
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>TDN, I'm not certain what you are referring to, but if you believe it folly to think this coin might have been dipped in the past simply because the contrast is turned up so high, then you and I will simply have to agree to disagree on that point since, contrast or no, that coin has very little chance of being original. >>
I'm saying that it could very well have light toning on it and you'd never be able to tell because the image has been turned into a black/white cameo via contrast manipulation. With a bit of photoshop work, the image of the other coin [ex: John Story Jenks ... 100% original] can probably be turned into a close match.
<< <i>TDN, I'm not certain what you are referring to, but if you believe it folly to think this coin might have been dipped in the past simply because the contrast is turned up so high, then you and I will simply have to agree to disagree on that point since, contrast or no, that coin has very little chance of being original. >>
Regardless of the dipping issue, the contrast is juiced a bit on that image.
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<< <i>What would you rather have; the 1913 $5 million dollar nickel or a roll of proof Morgans like those? >>
The 1913 hands down. Roll quantities don't interest me in the least. >>
TDN---Is it even possible to put together a single roll of PF69 Morgan dollars?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Is this one of those times when a dip actually enhanced the coins beauty? Isnt that the look you want on a proof morgan dollar?
<< <i>This is an interesting example of how different folks can view a coin since most people here appear to really like the coin, yet I think it has negative eye appeal and that it would not be in my collection regardless of price. >>
I'd say that that statement could be made about a lot of the coin pics posted here. Some coins that get others' hearts all atwitter don't excite me in the least.
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<< <i>The link is not showing the image for me at the moment, but I will tell you that my impression is that I find it difficult to believe that a proof coin of that age (approximately 115 years old) could not have nearly white surfaces without having been dipped at least once. >>
Just because the coin is 115 years old does not ipso facto mean that it definitely has been dipped. I own several and have seen countless more German and German States proofs from approximately the same time period (1890-1920) in DCAM and UCAM holders that are brilliant white and show phenomenal black/white contrast. Have every last one of them been dipped? I find that hard to believe.
(I'm not saying that many haven't been dipped, but IMO it's a stretch to claim that if a 100-year-old proof is white it MUST have been dipped...)
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Just because the coin is 115 years old does not ipso facto mean that it definitely has been dipped. I own several and have seen countless more German and German States proofs from approximately the same time period (1890-1920) in DCAM and UCAM holders that are brilliant white and show phenomenal black/white contrast. Have every last one of them been dipped? I find that hard to believe.
(I'm not saying that many haven't been dipped, but IMO it's a stretch to claim that if a 100-year-old proof is white it MUST have been dipped...) >>
As Tom pointed out, the way these were stored produces an incredible liklihood that they would have toned someway or another. I don't know how the German pieces were stored, but early American proofs were not in air-tight holders, and were exposed to many reactants.
Does anyone know the history of this coin? Did it always look like this? I find it hard to believe it remained this clean for 203 years.
<< <i>Is this one of those times when a dip actually enhanced the coins beauty? Isnt that the look you want on a proof morgan dollar? >>
Who? Me? Speaking only for myself, I can say with great confidence that I do not want my proof Morgan Dollar to look like this.
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<< <i>Does anyone know the history of this coin? Did it always look like this? >>
I know a few years back it used to be grade PF64 when I stupidly passed on purchasing it at a very reasonable level!
You want a crusty proof morgan?
2. If you think about photos of the SAE DCAM proof, the black mirrors don’t require that you juice the image. You only need to reflect a black surface in the mirrored fields and the cameo pops. Tom’s comments aside, I’ll bet that Morgan looks as good as many PR69DCAM SAEs. That, to me, is incredible. Not six-figure incredible, but incredible none-the-less.
3. TDN - I am not buying that a dip can convert a PR64 to a PR69. After all, the grading company saw this in hand, they did not grade it from a photograph – so the jet black mirrors were not black when they graded it. I’m not saying you’re dead wrong - but a five point grade boost – that’s a hard comment to swallow. Even if NGC over graded the coin by a point, a four point boost is still very hard to swallow (I’m only continuing the conversation here, not trying to pick a fight with you). Perhaps I am being naive when it comes to these high-dollar coins?
–John Adams, 1826
<< <i>Who? Me? Speaking only for myself, I can say with great confidence that I do not want my proof Morgan Dollar to look like this.
You want a crusty proof morgan? >>
I just prefer my coins not to look like they've been nuclear radiated.
There are a few of these sorts of coins around - including some Barber material in NGC PF69 holders - all bright white. There must be a market for these, somewhere, but they seem to hang around for a while.