<< <i>this is so off topic and a typical post for the US COIN FORUMS. i really do not care about how much you charge for shipping.
sigh >>
as is yours, a typical negative response. Don't open it next time, problem solved. I should have let people (fellow COIN collectors) deal with this nitwit, right?
"I should have let people (fellow COIN collectors) deal with this nitwit, right?" It's good that you did, but don't be too hard on ol' Sarge. He's just being himself and fills his time with the cost of shipping, that's all. Mike
What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL >>
The "Insured" stamp by the Post Office signifies insurance up to $50.00.
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL >>
If you read the forums, you will see some very respected members who have private insurance or do self-insure (and I believe them) for certain amounts. When they use the private insurance, I believe there are guidelines they have to follow and may not be able to use PO insurance or maybe not even put "insured-steal me" on the packaged.....
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. >>
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. >>
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL >>
What's wrong with self-insured? I know a couple of seller who do this. They charge less than the post office and if there's a claim, they pay it immediately rather than filling out paperwork and waiting months for the post office to pay. Ultimately, it comes down to the integrity of the seller.
If insurance is for the protection of the seller (and buyers are not shy about pointing this out regularly), why is it any business of the buyer how the seller insures his shipments?
However, sellers are prohibited from charging an ala carte price for the service on EBAY. The practice is also a violation of statutes governing the operation of insurance companies in every state.
SI can be included in the S&H that sellers charge.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
<< <i>If insurance is for the protection of the seller (and buyers are not shy about pointing this out regularly), why is it any business of the buyer how the seller insures his shipments? >>
When I get a package with no indication that the seller insured it as he said he would; it makes me nervous in that I have less confidence that the seller will make good if I have a claim. Unless he buys some other tracking product in lieu of it he has no way to know if I got it. Unless he throws ins payments from all buyers to pay out a possible claim how does he cover his loss or does he eat it? If he takes out a policy from a third party insurer how does he prove to them he sent the package?
I have a current gold item that the winning bidder got for $12 under melt....rather than pay $3.95 for shipping and insurance, he wants me to just drop in the mail uninsured...$1 should do it....
"I have a current gold item that the winning bidder got for $12 under melt....rather than pay $3.95 for shipping and insurance, he wants me to just drop in the mail uninsured...$1 should do it....?"
I am selling a few items on e- bay and had this moron ask me today If I would ship a 645.00 item first class instead of priorty ! I only charge for shipping, nothing else. Whats 3 more dollars going to hurt at this level of purchase. Told him to move along. Thanks to this thread, He was put on my blocked bidder list a few days ago.
<< <i>"I have a current gold item that the winning bidder got for $12 under melt....rather than pay $3.95 for shipping and insurance, he wants me to just drop in the mail uninsured...$1 should do it....?"
<< <i>"I have a current gold item that the winning bidder got for $12 under melt....rather than pay $3.95 for shipping and insurance, he wants me to just drop in the mail uninsured...$1 should do it....?"
$8 is not too much too charge for shipping, handling and insurance on an item like that
sometime if you let them have the last word (in a pissing match over a measly $2.80?), even if it is dead wrong will silence them. let it roll, they are the ones with all the problems and troubles, not you.
you have much better things to do with your time than going back and forth like this.
<< <i>Unless he buys some other tracking product in lieu of it he has no way to know if I got it. >>
If he mails it without tracking and insures through the USPS for less than $50, he has no way to know if you got it, either.
<< <i>Unless he throws ins payments from all buyers to pay out a possible claim how does he cover his loss or does he eat it? >>
I'd guess that's just how self-insurers do it.
<< <i>If he takes out a policy from a third party insurer how does he prove to them he sent the package? >>
By following their policy for filing a claim. I just did one last month for $150, with no problem.
IMO, a buyer who insists that insurance is to protect the seller and that it's the seller's responsibility to get the item to them has no more reason to expect that he should be able to dictate how the seller will insure the shipment than he has to demand that the seller buy his shipping supplies from a particular vendor.
I've pretty much given up on Ebay for selling. I only buy low dollar items there now. But in my prime I was selling new tools for a business pulling commission off of each sell. I'd pay $1-$2 a box, $16 for a bag of peanuts, and charge a flat rate of $15 insured Fedex Ground within the continental U.S. I'd get harrassed constantly by idiots saying things like, "Hey it only costs $14.79 to ship to my zip code from yours, you're ripping me off, you're trying to make money off of shipping!" Ebay's day is slowly slipping away. Way too many scamers and idiots.
Prost!
Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
A simple claim of non-receipt by a scamster will often overcome the presumption of receipt widely thought to be created by DC.
The USPS sometimes places DC items in "the wrong box." Items can also be "damaged" in transit. If you accept PP, you are obligated to assure that the item is delivered as sold.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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i really do not care about how much you charge for shipping.
sigh
<< <i>this is so off topic and a typical post for the US COIN FORUMS.
i really do not care about how much you charge for shipping.
sigh >>
as is yours, a typical negative response. Don't open it next time, problem solved.
I should have let people (fellow COIN collectors) deal with this nitwit, right?
sigh.
It's good that you did, but don't be too hard on ol' Sarge. He's just being himself and fills his time with the cost of shipping, that's all. Mike
When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
To answer the question, no, Sarge is not on a crusade.
Sarge has an obsessive-compulsive disorder.
He is trying to catalog the entire postal history of the USN pre World War II.
This is worse than Walter Breen. At least the U.S. mint kept records (sort of).
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office.
When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL >>
The "Insured" stamp by the Post Office signifies insurance up to $50.00.
<< <i>What does this have to do with coins? >>
asked and answered.
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office.
When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL >>
If you read the forums, you will see some very respected members who have private insurance or do self-insure (and I believe them) for certain amounts.
When they use the private insurance, I believe there are guidelines they have to follow and may not be able to use PO insurance or maybe not even put "insured-steal me" on the packaged.....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. >>
You don't do much shipping, do you?
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office. >>
You don't do much shipping, do you?
Russ, NCNE >>
That's what I was thinking.
Under $50 is just a stamp of "INSURED"
<< <i>What really bugs me are the losers who charge for insurance and when you receive the item, it only has "insured" stamped on the envelope - nothing indicating insurance from the Post Office.
When I've called some sellers out on the carpet for it, they claim they are "self insured" LOL >>
What's wrong with self-insured? I know a couple of seller who do this. They charge less than the post office and if there's a claim, they pay it immediately rather than filling out paperwork and waiting months for the post office to pay. Ultimately, it comes down to the integrity of the seller.
However, sellers are prohibited from charging an ala carte
price for the service on EBAY. The practice is also a violation
of statutes governing the operation of insurance companies
in every state.
SI can be included in the S&H that sellers charge.
<< <i>If insurance is for the protection of the seller (and buyers are not shy about pointing this out regularly), why is it any business of the buyer how the seller insures his shipments? >>
When I get a package with no indication that the seller insured it as he said he would; it makes me nervous in that I have less confidence that the seller will make good if I have a claim. Unless he buys some other tracking product in lieu of it he has no way to know if I got it. Unless he throws ins payments from all buyers to pay out a possible claim how does he cover his loss or does he eat it? If he takes out a policy from a third party insurer how does he prove to them he sent the package?
<< <i>this is so off topic and a typical post for the US COIN FORUMS.
i really do not care about how much you charge for shipping.
sigh >>
Sarge, is that you? Or do you both need to get a life?
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Link
ebay isn't worth the losses....
<< <i>I don't think your off base. It is shipping and handling. My time is worth something and driving to the post office is not free. >>
Especially with $3+ gas.
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Not if he paid via PayPal.
<< <i>"I have a current gold item that the winning bidder got for $12 under melt....rather than pay $3.95 for shipping and insurance, he wants me to just drop in the mail uninsured...$1 should do it....?"
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Not if he paid via PayPal. >>
PayPal does not require insurance, just a Delivery Confirmation #.
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<< <i>"I have a current gold item that the winning bidder got for $12 under melt....rather than pay $3.95 for shipping and insurance, he wants me to just drop in the mail uninsured...$1 should do it....?"
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Not if he paid via PayPal. >>
PayPal does not require insurance, just a Delivery Confirmation #. >>
The cautionary statement is one of skeptism so that the purchased can't claim "non-receipt" and get their money back (and possibly the goods as well).
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
sometime if you let them have the last word (in a pissing match over a measly $2.80?), even if it is dead wrong will silence them. let it roll, they are the ones with all the problems and troubles, not you.
you have much better things to do with your time than going back and forth like this.
<< <i>Unless he buys some other tracking product in lieu of it he has no way to know if I got it. >>
If he mails it without tracking and insures through the USPS for less than $50, he has no way to know if you got it, either.
<< <i>Unless he throws ins payments from all buyers to pay out a possible claim how does he cover his loss or does he eat it? >>
I'd guess that's just how self-insurers do it.
<< <i>If he takes out a policy from a third party insurer how does he prove to them he sent the package? >>
By following their policy for filing a claim. I just did one last month for $150, with no problem.
IMO, a buyer who insists that insurance is to protect the seller and that it's the seller's responsibility to get the item to them has no more reason to expect that he should be able to dictate how the seller will insure the shipment than he has to demand that the seller buy his shipping supplies from a particular vendor.
Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
A simple claim of non-receipt by a scamster will often overcome
the presumption of receipt widely thought to be created by DC.
The USPS sometimes places DC items in "the wrong box." Items
can also be "damaged" in transit. If you accept PP, you are obligated
to assure that the item is delivered as sold.