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PCGS to Recognize Orientation of Edge Lettering on Presidential Dollar Coins

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  • basestealerbasestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭
    They should have done this from the beginning, but of course they wanted to capitalize on the prospects of grading each coin twice.
  • BodieBodie Posts: 282
    I agree Base.. PCGS always keeps us guessing.
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  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    The question was asked on Feb 16th, and it takes them 2 and a half months to decide.
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  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 1,039 ✭✭
    I would think that Position A would be right side up vs. upside down -- seems backwards to me.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well I suppose orientation is important when dealing with a three sided coin.

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  • ArgentumRexArgentumRex Posts: 620 ✭
    There's some further discussion in a thread from this morning: link
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    They are following the long established naming convention for edge lettering already used for Belgium coins. Many Belgium coin types have edge lettering that come in Pos A or Pos B orientation where Pos A lettering is upside down with the obverse up and Pos B is right side up lettering.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,732 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just reading yesterday's news on PCGS website, the decision for the edge lettering.

    Anyone have any thoughts?

    Article >>




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  • AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303
    So, we shouldn't differentiate US coins from World coins....? Is it standard grading on all coins world-wide?
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who cares, the ugliest coin I have ever seen.

    PCGS is a business, all about that bottom line.
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  • COINB0YCOINB0Y Posts: 4,505
    Yet, they refuse to recognize a true First Strike Coin certified by the US Mint as struck on the first day of production? LOL!

    OK, hmmm.... I sure would hate to have a true First Strike Coin certified by the US Mint as struck on the first day of production + have the *new* PCGS Orientation of Edge Lettering variant now deemed to be "Holy"

    PCGS?

    They are losing it...blind to the reality that the US Mint has now trumped them by offering true first strikes for the next 10 years on these Presidential dollars, denying what was going to be a nice revenue stream.

    Instead of reacting and moving with the market, they dig in and with the proverbial 'head in the sand', they plow onward, trying to force thier own virtual reality on their intelligent, and now extremely skeptical customer base, with subjective Labeling schemes.

    They almost seemed to be acting like....dare I say it?.....COIN DEALERS!

    This would make a great case study for any B-School Class on how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
  • COINB0YCOINB0Y Posts: 4,505
    not worth it
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why not get the Satin vs Buisness strike issue solved first!

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  • ArgentumRexArgentumRex Posts: 620 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Just reading yesterday's news on PCGS website, the decision for the edge lettering. >>



    Thanks for the link because this news is nowhere to be found on the PCGS Website that would an obvious page for such news!

    WTF!

    Why is it PCGS just can NOT create a Web Page entitled "What's New" and put this kind of information there??

    What is it that no one at PCGS as the creative fortitude to copy the way MILLIONS of other companies do when they want to show customers new products and services to be offered?!!!

    It is always a treasure hunt here for finding what is new information!

    Absolute stupidity!

    New information and policies are disseminated by Message Board Posts! Who ever keeps saying we have to be careful or "they will take the message board away" is numb to the fact that the company would collapse.

    It would be akin to ripping apart the 'can and string' communication network that PCGS has established for broadcasting new information to it's customers. >>





    It's right on the main page, pcgs.com, under

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  • Cameo CCCameo CC Posts: 663 ✭
    I do have a question for all of you.

    Is it possible that the delay from the US Mint is due to this problem and the US Mint is working on a solution so that all future Presidential Dollars will have the lettering standardized to one position?

    If so, what will that do to the value of the G. Washington MS coinage?

    Just some thoughts to think about.

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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Woopie !

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    It's a good move for the shareholders and to plug a hole for the quarter (the financial quarter, not the quarter dollar).
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  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    I am so very pleased that PCGS took the time to ask what the collector community thought regarding this issue.image

    Upside-down, right-side up edge lettering
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    I wondered when someone was going to point that question out.

    "OK, it's almost unanimous against the idea. Let's do it!" image
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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I got one roll of them at the bank. 12 were one way and 13 were the other way.

    Then promptly spent them on tacos from the lunch "roach coach".

    The tacos satisfied me more than the coins did.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's fabulous news. Kudos to PCGS for tackling this troublesome issue that is so vital to our hobby.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Glad a TPG finally dealt with this critical matter instead of wasting time on issues of lesser importance like crackout mania, grade bumps after dipping coins, marketing gimmicks based on when the Mint ships a coin, and blatantly AT coins in their holders.

    Bravo.

    << <i>I got one roll of them at the bank. 12 were one way and 13 were the other way. Then promptly spent them on tacos from the lunch "roach coach". >>

    $25 worth or roach coach tacos? That's a lot of tacos, even if it were $15 worth of tacos and $10 in heartburn medication.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Geez, I thought he was kidding around when he posted that thread asking about it.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad a TPG finally dealt with this critical matter instead of wasting time on issues of lesser importance like crackout mania, grade bumps after dipping coins, marketing gimmicks based on when the Mint ships a coin, and blatantly AT coins in their holders.

    Bravo. >>



    As usual, we are on the same page, Ziggy. image
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  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    You gotta know it's all about the Benjamin's....
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