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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bottom line - most card dealers are natural born weasels. Not all, but most. I would place Levi in the category of a rich weasel. But yes, a weasel isn't really a crook...it's a well...weasel! LOL
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    edited -- never mind

    Happy collecting! image
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    I actually agree with perkdog on everything he says too a point. He is not a crook but just too hard to deal with for people with normal collections. If you have a rare card he needs sure he pays alot but most of the time he has everything you have in multiples. He makes more money at shows renting dealers their cases than selling cards. I have multiple times tried dealing with him only to get very angry over his offers. It's hard to be looked in the face when he has a PSA 7 of a card you are trying to trade in an 8 and his offer for your 8 is below his 7 price. The other thing that annoys me about him is he always tells you whats wrong with your cards but if you point out a flaw in his he gets mad and has told me on one occasion I don't know anything about cards. Great customer service there.
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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Man, i need to get a manual to keep up with all these frikkin abbreviations---pos---fwiw---"picked the wrong week to quit sniffin glue!!"image
  • GOODLIEUGOODLIEU Posts: 629 ✭✭
    Bottom line in is that a person has a right to run his or her own business as they see fit. The perspective customers also have the right to buy or ignore the product being sold. Period. This is how are system works like it or not. As we all say its just business and dont make it personal.
  • And I would love to have this card in my collection...

    1956 Williams PSA 10
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>And I would love to have this card in my collection...

    1956 Williams PSA 10 >>



    Card looks too OC to be a 10.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    I'm sorry, that was just me falling out of my chair. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    Back scan shows touched corners bottom left and top right. An awesome card but does not appear to be a 10.
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭


    << <i>jay i'll give you some advice and it is FREE, Do not buy from him. >>

    You don't say? This board is about helping our fellow collectors. I am letting others know that they are paying for his .20 listing days through his inflated prices.
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I'm looking forward to catching up with Levi in Chicago on Friday.
    Outstanding dealer and a heck of a nice guy to boot IMO.

    Those of you who think his prices are too high, simply don't buy from him. The decision seems pretty easy to me. But if you need certain vintage cards in a variety of grades, he's a great source.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I actually agree with perkdog on everything he says too a point. He is not a crook but just too hard to deal with for people with normal collections. If you have a rare card he needs sure he pays alot but most of the time he has everything you have in multiples. He makes more money at shows renting dealers their cases than selling cards. I have multiple times tried dealing with him only to get very angry over his offers. It's hard to be looked in the face when he has a PSA 7 of a card you are trying to trade in an 8 and his offer for your 8 is below his 7 price. The other thing that annoys me about him is he always tells you whats wrong with your cards but if you point out a flaw in his he gets mad and has told me on one occasion I don't know anything about cards. Great customer service there. >>




    <<<<< The other thing that annoys me about him is he always tells you whats wrong with your cards but if you point out a flaw in his he gets mad and has told me on one occasion I don't know anything about cards. >>>>>

    Textbook characteristic of a card dealer weasel. LOL



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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    weasel? cmon stevek give it a break.


    Is the guy that sells you groceries a weasel too? I mean he too is marking his items up.


    I bet you work for free huh?

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    A few tings ...

    Levi is great to deal with. So is Jim.
    High prices - yes, but they eventually sell em.
    You can get a good deal with Levi.
    1953 Topps Mantle PSA 7 for 5K ... where else can you get one? Oh, BMW has one in an 84 for ..... 5K
    SMR is not a price guide ...
    707's table at the last show was booming ... watch Levi, Jim, and Donna next time. They are constantly moving cards.

    carry on
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • 1960toppsguy1960toppsguy Posts: 1,127 ✭✭
    To some this is a hobby, to others this is a business . . . bottom line, he knows what his is. . . kudos to someone who can have fun and make aliving at something he loves. Also, if you ever meet him, he's a stand up guy!image
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You don't say? This board is about helping our fellow collectors. I am letting others know that they are paying for his .20 listing days through his inflated prices. >>



    thats mighty nice of you to help us out by telling us that sportscard dealers try to cover overhead costs by selling cards..

    i never would have imagined sportscard dealers would want their profits to cover their costs..

    im actually offended that a sportscard dealer might even make a profit at all..

    well, no i'm not.. i think this thread is stupid.. but im gonna follow Jayhawkes logic so i can participate in "helping our fellow collectors" on this forum just like Jayhawke did!

    hey forum members, here is my helpful information to you:

    1. Actually it is you who ends up paying the rent for the grocery store where you shop. Sad but true.
    2. Actually it is you who ends up paying for Pizza Hut's advertising costs last time you bought a pizza. Sad but true.
    3. Actually it is you who covers the cost for Anheuser-Busch to exist, whenever you buy a beer. Sad but true.
    4. Actually, my weed man tries to make enough money to cover the costs of his own weed usage. Sad but true.

    there, i would never have realized all this without Jayhawkes wisdom..

    actually its all common sense, and i think Jayhawke is not-so-smart if he really thinks it was "helpful" to forum members for him to make that statement..

    ·p_A·
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    lol

    In any event he also uses the BIn so it costs him more then .20

    That seems to have been lost on some of ya's.


    Hey jay thanks for the help!


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • From a business (Dealer) standpoint;
    You don't make money when you sell cards, you make money when you buy cards.

    If I make an offer to buy a card and the seller agrees, I know I paid too MUCH! From a dealers perspective, I am looking for the sellers bottom price. I have to, its my livelyhood at stake. I am also looking for the buyers ceiling. It's all about profit margin, buy low, sell high. Buying low and selling high does not make someone a crook or a weasle. It makes them a business person. If dealer bought every card at the sellers asking price and sold every card at the buyers price, he or she wouldn't be a dealer very long.

    Collectors buy cards for joy and fun, Dealers buy cards for food, gas, clothes, house, etc. Unless you have been on both sides of the fence, its really hard to compare them.
  • bishopbishop Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭
    I have been buying, selling and trading with this guy for over 20 years. It always amazes me that he stirs up so much passion in here every time his name comes up.
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Sheesh, some of you need to take some xanax image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    weasel? cmon stevek give it a break.


    Is the guy that sells you groceries a weasel too? I mean he too is marking his items up.


    I bet you work for free huh?

    Steve >>




    Don't mind at all if card dealers make a profit or even make a lot of profit.

    Card shop owners are in a lot of aspects like used car dealers - natural born weasels. Bring in your car for trade and it is only one step up from the salvage yard according to the car salesman, but when he's selling a similar car...then it's almost like new only driven to church on Sundays by some local little old lady.




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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>And I would love to have this card in my collection...

    1956 Williams PSA 10 >>



    Card looks too OC to be a 10.[/qWhere is the "Levi gets better grades thread"...j/k
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    perry, is it me who pays for the electicity that keeps the whiskey-making machine running? If so, I'm ok with that.

    Lee
  • If the price of a card (or anything) seems too high, just move on and keep looking. Complaining isn't going to lower the price.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I've learned a lot about business in the past few days.

    How about ethics?

    Collectors are concerned with the business ethics of everyone who sells - that's fair...

    OK - here's your ethics challenge:

    Simple: Mr. I Foundit Intheattic comes up to you with a box full of vintage prewar and 50s cards - in pretty good shape also - you thumb thru the cards and realize these's thousands in it!

    He asks you to buy the box - he's clueless - he says: "would 20 or 30 bucks be OK?"

    What would you do?

    Yes, this is a rhetorical question - just injecting a bit of ole fashioned balance.

    mike

    edit: I still think Levi Bleam used to be the lead singer in a British Invasion cover band!

    Mike
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    It is sure kind of cool to see all the stuff that he has available for sale. Prices or not, that is a lot of cards to have in one's inventory!!
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    I think the box o stuff argument is not the same thing. Personally I would give fair market value because as soon as another relative finds out I ripped grandma off its lawsuit city. Remember the debacle over the Babe Ruth bat used to hit the last homer in old Yankee stadium? Again I don't begrudge Levi making a living however, people the reason why Levi sells like he does is he is already independently wealthy. He does not have to sell anything ever to make money to pay the bills. He collects more than he sells as evidence by his set registries. Again, I like talking to Levi just not trading or dealing with the guy, just too tough.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "You don't make money when you sell cards, you make money when you buy cards."

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  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>edit: I still think Levi Bleam used to be the lead singer in a British Invasion cover band! >>



    I always thought he was Dirk Digler's stunt double.
    #LetsGoSwitzerlandThe Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read. The biggest obstacle to progress is a habit of “buying what we want and begging for what we need.”You get the Freedom you fight for and get the Oppression you deserve.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    edit: I still think Levi Bleam used to be the lead singer in a British Invasion cover band! >>



    Look!! He is in Stingray's avatarimage


    Levi spent about 10 minutes speaking with my girlfriend and I and showing us some cards. Even though he KNEW we were no going to buy anything, she was saying "are people crazy to pay this money for pictures of guys", he was very respectful. Hot though my g/f is, he was not OGLING her like Mr Mint, and he didnt treat us like idiots as "Krook Kards" did. I have no complaints.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Mike

    I bet the guys that cried here the loudest would buy that box in a heartbeat.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bottom line - most card dealers are natural born weasels. Not all, but most. I would place Levi in the category of a rich weasel. But yes, a weasel isn't really a crook...it's a well...weasel! LOL >>



    What do you call buyers that are always looking for low price deals? I go on Ebay and put lowball bids on most stuff. I get outbid on 99%, but I do win a few.

    It's always gonna be the same (and not just cards). Buyers think the seller is overpriced and dealers think buyers want everything for nothing.

    #LetsGoSwitzerlandThe Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read. The biggest obstacle to progress is a habit of “buying what we want and begging for what we need.”You get the Freedom you fight for and get the Oppression you deserve.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the box o stuff argument is not the same thing. Personally I would give fair market value because as soon as another relative finds out I ripped grandma off its lawsuit city >>

    No it's not the same thing - it's EXACTLY the point - it goes to the core of the issue.

    People who live in glass houses...

    Some people here begrudge his business model - get into what he can or can't afford - think he doesn't give enough for your cards...

    We have NO right to look into the personal habits of the seller - NO right to condemn him for pursuing exactly what everyone else wants - to make a decent profit for a business. A large inventory that doesn't move costs money. Just imagine taking 100K and putting it on the shelf for a rainy day? People would say: invest it! At least put it in the bank and draw 4%? That's what it's like.

    Since retiring from the Army - I've had my own business for almost 8 yrs. - the things that can eat at the bottom line are plain incredible.

    We've had some clever remarks about making money.

    Well - ya don't make money when ya buy your inventory and ya don't make money when ya sell it - ya make money by managing the ENTIRE business budget and control the "Bottom line" - COST of TOTAL OPERATION.

    mike
    Mike
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭


    << <i>Sheesh, some of you need to take some xanax image >>



    Last time i popped some xanex (mixed with lots of beer and shots) i was chased out of a house with only a white t shirt and a pair of boxers on.
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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭✭
    This thread is utterly unbelieveable...seriously. I had some vintage cards that I took to a recent show & offerred them to three different dealers. Believe it or not, 707 came up with the number I was looking for (they didn't even ask what I wanted, they simply made an offer) and the cards were theirs. It's hard to believe the morons on this board who can't understand why a dealer has to offer less than they have to sell it for (carrying costs, etc.). Let it go....
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    It's hard to believe the morons on this board

    After awhile iron it won't be so hard. I'm sorta used to them now.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    if ya cant beat em, join em, I threw som estupid prices out there and got a nice bidder already!
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    Lets hope they pay
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, I've learned a lot about business in the past few days.

    How about ethics?

    Collectors are concerned with the business ethics of everyone who sells - that's fair...

    OK - here's your ethics challenge:

    Simple: Mr. I Foundit Intheattic comes up to you with a box full of vintage prewar and 50s cards - in pretty good shape also - you thumb thru the cards and realize these's thousands in it!

    He asks you to buy the box - he's clueless - he says: "would 20 or 30 bucks be OK?"

    What would you do?

    Yes, this is a rhetorical question - just injecting a bit of ole fashioned balance.

    mike

    edit: I still think Levi Bleam used to be the lead singer in a British Invasion cover band! >>




    I think most people, including myself, would attempt to buy the cards from "Mr. I Foundit Intheattic" as inexpensively as possible. However, in my opinion there is a big difference between this scenario and someone who decides to attempt to do this every day for a living, if not a good living. Someone has to have a weasel type personality to want to do this full time.

    I believe probably almost all card dealers secretly admire Mr. Mint. But how many card collectors admire Mr. Mint? - not too many and Mr. Mint could be called the Top Weasel.



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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    myself, would attempt to buy the cards from "Mr. I Foundit Intheattic" as inexpensively as possible.

    lol I knew it!!

    so that makes you a .....ahhhhhh hypocritical weasel?

    I love how you tried to justify that it is OK for you to do it cuz you do not do it for a living! like that makes a world of difference!!

    well at least you are honest.

    Steve

    Good for you.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    i once snorted a xanax...

    bad idea

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    f ya cant beat em, join em, I threw som estupid prices out there and got a nice bidder already!


    I agree with ya ted.

    I too will not give my 65's away.

    i start them with the least i will take for them. if they do not sell that is ok with me.

    I love the guy who came on herev and wanted to buy cards from some of us with the old " I'll buy em for a fair price BS" fair to whom? him?? lol

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i once snorted a xanax...

    bad idea

    julen >>



    not really a bad idea.. you just put it under a dollar bill and crush it with a lighter..
    ·p_A·
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think most people, including myself, would attempt to buy the cards from "Mr. I Foundit Intheattic" as inexpensively as possible. However, in my opinion there is a big difference between this scenario and someone who decides to attempt to do this every day for a living, if not a good living. Someone has to have a weasel type personality to want to do this full time. >>

    Ya fell in that one hook - line - and sinker!

    I'll use the same exact ethical reasoning...

    "I only killed one person..."

    "It's not like I'm Tony Soprano who kills for a living?"

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    Mike
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I think most people, including myself, would attempt to buy the cards from "Mr. I Foundit Intheattic" as inexpensively as possible. However, in my opinion there is a big difference between this scenario and someone who decides to attempt to do this every day for a living, if not a good living. Someone has to have a weasel type personality to want to do this full time. >>

    Ya fell in that one hook - line - and sinker!

    I'll use the same exact ethical reasoning...

    "I only killed one person..."

    "It's not like I'm Tony Soprano who kills for a living?"

    image >>



    This is kind of a silly scenerio. Let's say you're walking through the park when you happen across a group of kids who have a kite stuck in a tree. Further, assume you're tall enough to get the kite down with minimal difficulty. Is it 'immoral' not to help? Most people would say no, it's not immoral, but it would be a nice thing to do. And, perhaps further, while you aren't morally obligated to assist you're kind of a sleaze if you don't.

    Ditto for this time honored scenerio involving the guy with the box of priceless baseball cards. If he wants $30 for it, and you give him $30 for it, then you're both happy with the transaction. It's a little sleazy not to let him know exactly what he has, but there's a big gulf between what's sleazy and what's unscrupulous.
  • bishopbishop Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭
    I sure hope Levi is remorseful for putting us through such a moral dilema over here
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boo gets it as do some others, but some people don't get it. Oh well.

    Hey I'm not being hypocritical - if I was a card shop owner, I would do the exact same thing...but I choose not to be a card shop owner or a used car lot owner...to each his own.

    I choose not to be like Mr. Mint - anyone chooses to be like Mr. Mint then they are a weasel. Levi in my view is basically a more eloquent and classier version of Mr. Mint.

    Frankly, I think Levi would consider being called a "rich weasel" a compliment as would Mr. Mint. image
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    what makes a weasel? making a living out of buying low and selling high?..
    ·p_A·
  • Business is business, lets let Levi run his. He is prompt, polite and professional and if a buyer doesn't like the price of a given card, it's not the end of the world or a big deal- it's not worth posting about constantly.
  • Just drive by their house in PA> must have sold something having a party.image
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