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Commission from Steve at BBCE?

Okay, bear with me, but the cynical side of me is out today ...

I would say that this board is the best sales force for BBCE. We pimp him out like we would our best Ho.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love BBCE and have had good experiences there ... but do you think we as a board might overdue it a bit?

Am I just being an a$$hole?

... it was on my mind --- had to throw it out there.

-t

PS Does his work/willingness to organize our rips help "pay" for the advertisting we give him? Again, am I just being an a$$hole here?
- Building these sets:
------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
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  • ajwajw Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Okay, bear with me, but the cynical side of me is out today ...

    I would say that this board is the best sales force for BBCE. We pimp him out like we would our best Ho.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I love BBCE and have had good experiences there ... but do you think we as a board might overdue it a bit?

    Am I just being an a$$hole?

    ... it was on my mind --- had to throw it out there.

    -t

    PS Does his work/willingness to organize our rips help "pay" for the advertisting we give him? Again, am I just being an a$$hole here? >>



    He was *great* when I set up the original 1980s Topps rip. He cut us a deal on the boxes and threw in a 1981 Donruss (or was it Fleer?) box for free. I can't speak to the other rips, but I consider great product at a great price with great service to be quite enough.

  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496
    The wax business in general is so hit or miss, that when you find a guy like Steve (w/ a wide selection of product, honesty, fairness, super high customer service)....people are going to flock around him.

    Objectively...there's plenty of other sellers with product that's just as good. But the nature of the business is so hit or miss, you want as close to a guarantee as possible that you'll get what you paid for.

    I think that's why he's got such a fanatical following here. And then setting up all the rips and the extras...he earns all the business he gets.
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    I like him. He sent me a Joe Montana rc for free once because I didnt pull one from multiple rack purchases. I graded it and it came back an 8. That was cool of him.

    In my opinion his prices seem to be the best. He ships promptly. The stuff is packed well. Overall I am pleased with the service.

    Any business will have flaws, one way or another . I just think he is the best of the rest out there and will refer him to people because of that.



  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Okay, bear with me, but the cynical side of me is out today ...

    I would say that this board is the best sales force for BBCE. We pimp him out like we would our best Ho.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I love BBCE and have had good experiences there ... but do you think we as a board might overdue it a bit?

    Am I just being an a$$hole?

    ... it was on my mind --- had to throw it out there.

    -t

    PS Does his work/willingness to organize our rips help "pay" for the advertisting we give him? Again, am I just being an a$$hole here? >>



    You need to come up with some names of unopened dealers who consistently offer top notch unopened material like Steve Hart before you can even dream of a post like this. And since you admitted that it is "cynical" day for you I can offer up that it is also "crap" post of the year for you today to. Beat me up all you want but ARE YOU JEALOUS? Because your post stinks of it.


    And the reason we "pimp him out like we would our best Ho" ??? That is obvious and maybe lost on you?

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240



  • << <i>

    You need to come up with some names of unopened dealers who consistently offer top notch unopened material like Steve Hart before you can even dream of a post like this. And since you admitted that it is "cynical" day for you I can offer up that it is also "crap" post of the year for you today to. Beat me up all you want but ARE YOU JEALOUS? Because your post stinks of it.


    And the reason we "pimp him out like we would our best Ho" ??? That is obvious and maybe lost on you? >>




    Ouch. Guess you answered my question of "Am I an a$$hole here" ...

    Honestly, I was just sharing what was on my mind --- thought some responses would be good for me... just wanted to get an idea of what others felt.

    I'm a collector, with an occasional ebay sale. I do not collect nor sell unopened material. I do purchase some for the occasional pack rip and will be selling a few packs I bought from him and got graded. But, no, I'm definitely not jealous. Why would I be?

    Just wanted some discussion.

    I guess you're entitled to your opinion as much as I am to mine.

    Carry on.

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    It would appear that he does do us a solid when we do rips....such as AJW stated above.

    As I said before, I'd be interested in some occasional Rips if Steve himself were to come up with one occasionally and post it on the b/s/t and ask for participants and/or suggestions.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    as i have heard many a time from one source or another, "If ya don't like what we got right here, call the other guy."
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I guess you're entitled to your opinion as much as I am to mine.

    Carry on.

    -t >>



    Indeed, BUT what you just did was point a finger at probably the best unopened dealer in the nation directly after a full blown hobby fiasco. What was "just" on your mind was a question that you are obviously not educated enough on to pose the question. And, this is what is on MY mind.

    And you DID point a finger at Steve Hart. Do you really think anybody would deserve COMMISSIONS from sales that he gives very nice breaks on to begin with? Does Steve Hart come here and solicit sales???? No. This board hypes up Steve Hart for good reason. So, some and maybe many might not agree with me but this kind of thread and this kind of question is pure Grad A bull$hit especially on the back end of what just happened around here.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    I honestly believe blindflyer had good intent with this thread.

    As others have stated, Steve has given discounts on our rips. For the '75 minis, I think he knocked off $1,500.

    Sorry to bring up a sore subject but I bet Gary got a discount from the boxes he DID purchase from BBCE, he just didn't pass along the savings image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Dan,

    Easy on the coffee, Big Fella. image
    Wondo

  • I also don't think blindflyer had any malicious intent with this post.

    With that said, I have NO PROBLEM giving Steve my money. The more business he gets from us, the better off he is - and that's a good thing for all of us.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    "Am I an a$$hole here" ...

    Well, if you want my honest opinion ..............yes

    Not saying that you are in general, but yes, in this case you are.


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>I also don't think blindflyer had any malicious intent with this post.

    With that said, I have NO PROBLEM giving Steve my money. The more business he gets from us, the better off he is - and that's a good thing for all of us. >>




    Thank you, guys.

    I'm not pointing any finger at Steve. I've personally spent over $900 with him in the past 6 months (my craving for pristine 85 Topps hockey got me).

    I was just raising a discussion topic. Of course I don't honestly believe Steve should pay us. It was a catchy subject header to get us to talk about BBCE. Honestly, I was just thinking about how often I hear people talk about BBCE-this and BBCE-that .. .and it dawned on me that we as a community give him a TON TON TON of business. That, inherently, is not a bad thing -- I was just bringing it to light.

    Like I said, I'm in a cynical mood, and the posts from guys that talk about the discounts and class-A customer service are what I was expecting to read --- and I knew it'd make me feel better.

    I apologize you were offended, Dan. For the rest of you that "got it" -- thanks.

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭


    LOUD NOISES!!!!!!
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    goose,
    good idea. let steve post as the 'rip' organizer for all that are interested and then everything can be sent to him rather than a 3rd party. i like it.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • kadokakidkadokakid Posts: 426 ✭✭
    Yes

    Peace

    Doug
    Trying to complete 1970 psa set.
    45% complete.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I apologize you were offended, Dan. For the rest of you that "got it" -- thanks.

    -t >>



    Nope, sorry guys, I am not going to go light on this one. And coffee is not a problem image

    blindflyer,

    YOU need to know what you are talking about before you start a flammatory thread involving one of the true good people AND DEALER in this hobby. Especially right after what has just happened.

    I GET it. You DON'T. Educate yourself on Steve and his buisness and these way off base thoughts will not be floating around in your head. Being in a "cynical" mood is no excuse for the baseless question that you offered up. IN MY MIND, Steve Hart does not appear in "cynical" moods ..... EVER.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240



  • << <i>Nope, sorry guys, I am not going to go light on this one. And coffee is not a problem image

    blindflyer,

    YOU need to know what you are talking about before you start a flammatory thread involving one of the true good people AND DEALER in this hobby. Especially right after what has just happened.

    I GET it. You DON'T. Educate yourself on Steve and his buisness and these way off base thoughts will not be floating around in your head. Being in a "cynical" mood is no excuse for the baseless question that you offered up. IN MY MIND, Steve Hart does not appear in "cynical" moods ..... EVER. >>



    Dude... whatever. I asked if we were "over-doing it" in terms of constantly recommended Steve. Then I asked if I was being an a$$hole for asking it.

    I obviously got under your skin, but you need to chill out.

    I am not and was never attacking Steve and it was not a "flammatory" thread in the first place.

    You're reading between the lines in what I wrote and couldn't possibly "know" my intent. To that, we'll just agree to disagree. You want to continually verbally attack me (call me uneducated, etc), feel free. If anything, it shows the true colors of your character, not mine.

    -Tom
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Now, now kids...

    I think it's great that softy is defending BBCE as much as he is. Shows exactly just how loyal Steve's customers are.

    Rather than saying "commission", it would have been better stated as "discounts", which is what Steve does do.

    Having said that...

    image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    I was buying from BBCE before I ever laid eyes on this board. He gets many return customers because he won't sell you crappy product.

    Rather than viewing it as BBCE getting hooked up by the board guys talking about him, I tend to think we are helping fellow collectors by turning them on to BBCE for unopened product...The value of the (now graded) pulls I've gotten from BBCE boxes/packs far exceeds how much I've spent at BBCE.

    Jason

    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What are some of the best cards you have pulled from steves packs with grades???
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> You're reading between the lines in what I wrote and couldn't possibly "know" my intent. To that, we'll just agree to disagree. You want to continually verbally attack me (call me uneducated, etc), feel free. If anything, it shows the true colors of your character, not mine.

    -Tom >>



    image

    yeah ok, you start this bull$hit thread with "Okay, bear with me, but the cynical side of me is out today ..." and then come up with the really insightful thought "We pimp him out like we would our best Ho." and then act like joey do good because you are called out on it?

    Just WHAT lines am a reading between? image

    I am sure you are a fine person blind, but this thread is $HIT. PURE $HIT. I am so sorry I had the balls to speak my mind also
    image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240



  • << <i>I was buying from BBCE before I ever laid eyes on this board. He gets many return customers because he won't sell you crappy product.

    Rather than viewing it as BBCE getting hooked up by the board guys talking about him, I tend to think we are helping fellow collectors by turning them on to BBCE for unopened product...The value of the (now graded) pulls I've gotten from BBCE boxes/packs far exceeds how much I've spent at BBCE.

    Jason >>



    Jason.

    perfect!

    I hadn't thought of it like that. That's a GREAT way to look at things and makes perfect sense. Thank you for posting. I will keep your view in mind when I see pro-BBCE chatter throughout these boards. Thanks!

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>
    image

    yeah ok, you start this bull$hit thread with "Okay, bear with me, but the cynical side of me is out today ..." and then come up with the really insightful thought "We pimp him out like we would our best Ho." and then act like joey do good because you are called out on it?

    Just WHAT lines am a reading between? image

    I am sure you are a fine person blind, but this thread is $HIT. PURE $HIT. I am so sorry I had the balls to speak my mind also
    image >>



    "Joey do good" ?????

    WTF are you talking about???? What do you even mean by that? LOL.

    Secondly, is this line incorrect?
    "We pimp him out like our best Ho?"

    From my perspective, it's dead-on. It may be a bit in sour taste for some ears (like yours obviously), but it summed up what I was trying to say.

    I'm glad you're Zzzzzing ... I've had enough.

    -t

    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think this thread is already longer than it should be, IMO.

    Steve is the most trustworthy dealer of unopened product in the country, bar none. For that, he deserves all the props he gets. No one, not Murphy, no Dave & Adams, etc., can hold a candle to bbce.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    WTF are you talking about???? What do you even mean by that? LOL. >>



    you tried being "joey do good" blind after whining about "I'm just speakin what is on my mind!" image AFTER you singled out Steve Hart.



    << <i>Secondly, is this line incorrect?
    "We pimp him out like our best Ho?" >>



    Yeah, its complete bull$hit.



    << <i>From my perspective, it's dead-on. It may be a bit in sour taste for some ears (like yours obviously), but it summed up what I was trying to say. >>



    What you were "trying" to say is that Steve Hart owes somebody money becuase we happen to talk very highly of him. What a crock of $HIT.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240



  • << <i>
    What you were "trying" to say is that Steve Hart owes somebody money becuase we happen to talk very highly of him. What a crock of $HIT. >>




    This is going nowhere. You're going to believe what you want and read into my comments the way you want. You want to tell me what I was actually saying and what my meaning was, etc etc. -- feel free to continue to "interpret" my statements to your liking since you seem to be inside of my head so often.

    I'm tired of the accusations.

    I wasn't attacking BBCE or Steve. Believe what you want. But honestly, I'm done with the argument and done with you. Good riddance.

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Damn guys...

    let it end.

    I don' t think Blindflyer meant anything negative at all.


    GEEZ. You guys are starting to act like Coin Geeks.image
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>I think this thread is already longer than it should be, IMO.

    Steve is the most trustworthy dealer of unopened product in the country, bar none. For that, he deserves all the props he gets. No one, not Murphy, no Dave & Adams, etc., can hold a candle to bbce. >>




    That would only be true if collectors have had experiences with Dave and Adam's, or Mark Murphy, which have involved receiving product other than what was paid for. If this has happened to anyone here please speak up!

    If this hasn't happened to anyone here then all we can really say is that Steve Hart is a fine and reputable dealer, but not necessarily more trustworthy than his closest competitors.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << I think this thread is already longer than it should be, IMO.

    Steve is the most trustworthy dealer of unopened product in the country, bar none. For that, he deserves all the props he gets. No one, not Murphy, no Dave & Adams, etc., can hold a candle to bbce. >>




    That would only be true if collectors have had experiences with Dave and Adam's, or Mark Murphy, which have involved receiving product other than what was paid for. If this has happened to anyone here please speak up!


    It's common knowledge among unopened collectors that Steve Hart is the overall best dealer in the hobby when it comes to inventory, product, customer service and quality. You don't need me to tell you that. Nothing new there.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • [ sarcasm ]
    Actually I think blindflyer has a good point. The only thing that really matters anymore is the almighty dollar. If we're doing something for Steve then that should be reflected in $$$$. We really need more WalMarts and HomeDepots that just give us the best price. Something wrong with what you bought? Just send it back to the manufacturer because the ones you bought it from won't stand behind what they sell. Need help with that item? Tough! They hire the chearest labor they can find - and then they underpay them. They don't need to be trained or need to know anything about the products they're selling. You're on your own there. All that matters is that you paid the lowest price. You don't need service. You don't need someone who will stand behind their product. You don't need someone who actually cares about doing a good job for you. You just need the LOWEST PRICE! It's all about the $$$$$!
    [/sarcasm]

    I would pay a 10% premium to Steve for the product and service he delivers. I like to see good honest people be successful.
    << image >>
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>[ sarcasm ]
    Actually I think blindflyer has a good point. The only thing that really matters anymore is the almighty dollar. If we're doing something for Steve then that should be reflected in $$$$. We really need more WalMarts and HomeDepots that just give us the best price. Something wrong with what you bought? Just send it back to the manufacturer because the ones you bought it from won't stand behind what they sell. Need help with that item? Tough! They hire the chearest labor they can find - and then they underpay them. They don't need to be trained or need to know anything about the products they're selling. You're on your own there. All that matters is that you paid the lowest price. You don't need service. You don't need someone who will stand behind their product. You don't need someone who actually cares about doing a good job for you. You just need the LOWEST PRICE! It's all about the $$$$$!
    [/sarcasm]

    I would pay a 10% premium to Steve for the product and service he delivers. I like to see good honest people be successful. >>




    I think what the OP was wondering is whether or not the disparity between the quality of service, product etc. that Steve delivers compared that which is is delivered by his nearest competitors was a justification for the disparity in positive coverage Steve gets on these boards relative to that which is received by Steve's nearest competitors. Everyone can have an opinion on that, and that's obviously fine, but I don't why posing the question would raise so much hostility.


  • << <i>
    I think what the OP was wondering is whether or not the disparity between the quality of service, product etc. that Steve delivers compared that which is is delivered by his nearest competitors was a justification for the disparity in positive coverage Steve gets on these boards relative to that which is received by Steve's nearest competitors. Everyone can have an opinion on that, and that's obviously fine, but I don't why posing the question would raise so much hostility. >>



    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

    Go back the last few months on this board. BBCE is praised, recommended, promoted more than ANY other vendor --- and by a MILE. There is NOTHING "WRONG" with this --- but it seems to me that we have a love affair with BBCE. I posted the question to see responses and get reaction -- glean some insight into why this appears to be the case.

    I do apologize if I offended. Again, I am not nor have not attacked Steve or BBCE. It was a question raised to this community about our behaviors and propensities.

    Thank you, Boopotts.

    -t
    - Building these sets:
    ------- 1960 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
    ------- 1985 Topps Hockey PSA 9+
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    steve has better quality & quantity than any other dealer.

    gary said something about it "being about business", which is our world here in the United States.

    capitalism rules and even in cardboard circles, it still holds h2o.

    i personally have no problem paying a premium for something i am 100% confident is gonna b what he says it is. e-bay is a roll of the dice a lot of times, unfortunately, and the other dealers out there just don't have same quality and quantity as him.

    i wouldn't mind the 10% discount for spending over $1000 w/ him, i have spent a small amount of change w/ him this year, but am 100% satisfied w/ EVERYTHING i have purchased.

    julen

    ps: great thread and commentary also, i support this thread!!!
    image
    RIP GURU
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    I think what the OP was wondering is whether or not the disparity between the quality of service, product etc. that Steve delivers compared that which is is delivered by his nearest competitors was a justification for the disparity in positive coverage Steve gets on these boards relative to that which is received by Steve's nearest competitors. Everyone can have an opinion on that, and that's obviously fine, but I don't why posing the question would raise so much hostility. >>



    The question that was brought here in this hideous thread is that Steve Hart owes somebody or some of us money for doing his advertising for him.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BBCE is praised, recommended, promoted more than ANY other vendor --- and by a MILE.

    There's a very good reason for that as far as I'm concerned, and I'm sure most unopened collectors would agree with that, as well. When PSA needed to hire a person to authenticate unopened packs for their holders, they also turned to one person: Steve Hart, for very good reason, too.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • OK.

    Maybe it's because Steve has real charisma?!?!? image
    << image >>
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What are you thanking Boo for blindflyer? For not getting what your initial intent was? That Steve Hart OWES somebody?? Oh man ...... lets go ..... this thread is BAD enough for me to put the gloves on.

    Bring it. Spin me some more bull$hit OTHER then what was initially brought forth ......

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  • I tend to agree with Boopotts. I don't see a problem with the topic being thrown out there as far as the disparity between competitive peers and the level of promotion that goes on here in the board. I've never bought from D & A or Mark Murphy so I can't speak for their services. I've also never bought unopened material off ebay and would never even consider it. I've bought from Steve Hart multiple times and each time there's been a minor imperfection in the deal, nothing serious though. Certainly nothing to prevent me from either reccommending him or purchasing from him again as I would/will do both.

    I don't think BF had any ill-intentions or malice in his original post. He may have just worded somethings wrong but I can't speak for him. I do think softparade has raised this to a personal level and I think that displays the level of loyalty that Steve's customers have for him.

    I guess for my own personal education I'll throw this question out ...

    Are D & A's and Mark Murphy not on the same level as Steve Hart and, if so, why? Any and all input would be appreciated.

    Arthur
  • Softparade, where does it say in BF's post that Steve owes us/anyone any money?

    Thanks

    Arthur

    Edited for spelling.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Does his work/willingness to organize our rips help "pay" for the advertisting we give him?"

    //////////////////////////////////////////////////

    It more than pays for it.
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  • << <i>What are you thanking Boo for blindflyer? For not getting what your initial intent was? That Steve Hart OWES somebody?? Oh man ...... lets go ..... this thread is BAD enough for me to put the gloves on.

    Bring it. Spin me some more bull$hit OTHER then what was initially brought forth ...... >>




    How is that that you "KNOW" my original intent?

    Are you psychic?
    Were you me in another lifetime?
    Have we chatted offline where I devulged all of my intentions for this thread?

    Seriously, bro, you're off your rocker on this. Believe what you want, but I stand behind what I wrote and my stated comments throughout this thread. Your self-righteous high-horse act is getting old.

    -t

    PS You're like the Islamic Extremist who is so "right" in his own view/faith that all others are wrong without question, logic, or thought. You'll probably trash me for this comment, too, but my point is I didn't intend what you're saying I intended -- yet your stubborness to believe otherwise will forever keep our arguments in circles. It's pointless.
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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Softparade, where does it say in BF's post that Steve owes us/anyone any money?

    Thanks

    Arthur

    Edited for spelling. >>



    The title of this stupid thread

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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    How is that that you "KNOW" my original intent?

    Are you psychic?
    Were you me in another lifetime?
    Have we chatted offline where I devulged all of my intentions for this thread?

    Seriously, bro, you're off your rocker on this. Believe what you want, but I stand behind what I wrote and my stated comments throughout this thread. Your self-righteous high-horse act is getting old.

    -t

    PS You're like the Islamic Extremist who is so "right" in his own view/faith that all others are wrong without question, logic, or thought. You'll probably trash me for this comment, too, but my point is I didn't intend what you're saying I intended -- yet your stubborness to believe otherwise will forever keep our arguments in circles. It's pointless. >>



    Blindflyer,

    Now that you just compared me with an Islamic Extremist and a being too self righteous (even though Mr BLINDflyer is about as self righteous as they come) let me leave with this.

    This forum can do without IDIOTS like yourself who make baseless bull$hit observations and then two step all over the place when called out. Say what you want .... YOU are the one who insinuated that Steve Hart owes this forum advertising money. Good job skippy! On the heels of a forum disaster ......

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  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    steve isnt the one promoting himself, its the customers. there is a big difference.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    this thread desperately needs a pandrews post image
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    from the title of this thread

    classic

    julen
    image
    RIP GURU
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    It was a total misunderstanding, I assure you.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>

    << <i>Softparade, where does it say in BF's post that Steve owes us/anyone any money?

    Thanks

    Arthur

    Edited for spelling. >>



    The title of this stupid thread >>



    I took it to be jocular and you didn't. That's the trouble with the written word as opposed to the spoken.

    Arthur
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