That's an easy answer. It's from Philly. Denver doesn't screw up making coins. How often are there such errors out of Denver ? Please do not refer to the Wisconsin Leaf coins, as they were pre-manufactured dies and do not count as a basis for arguement.
<< <i>Perhaps by the other coins in the roll? Just a wild guess... Cheers, RickO >>
on a more serious note: The location they are found usually will determine, also.
Does anyone know how distribution works or where the dividing lines are (State by State) on distribution of the minted business strike coins ???????????
If you want to learn something about numismatics conduct a die study of known P and D mint coins. Cataloge the different dies for each and then compare the unmarked coin to see which die it is from.
Since 300,000,000 of these coins were minted, how many dies would that be? I am thinking that even if a die lasted 100,000,000 strikes that would be alot of die varieties. Do they last longer than that?
<< <i>Since 300,000,000 of these coins were minted, how many dies would that be? I am thinking that even if a die lasted 100,000,000 strikes that would be alot of die varieties. Do they last longer than that? >>
A die would never last that long. Probably about 500,000-1,000,000 strikes per die is reasonable.
<< <i>Perhaps by the other coins in the roll? Just a wild guess... Cheers, RickO >>
on a more serious note: The location they are found usually will determine, also.
Does anyone know how distribution works or where the dividing lines are (State by State) on distribution of the minted business strike coins ??????????? >>
Generally, but not always, P minted coins are distributed east of the Mississippi River while Denver minted coins are distributed west of said river.
<< <i>Some on this Forum claim to know the difference, but they ain't telling??? A grievious microscopic study of many many coins may provide the answer. >>
I have posted regarding this several times. Do a search. TD
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I'm suprised...!!...as collectors we should know this answer imediately...You flip it in the air.If it lands on heads ..it's from Phil..if it's tails then it's from Denver..........
>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm suprised...!!...as collectors we should know this answer imediately...You flip it in the air.If it lands on heads ..it's from Phil..if it's tails then it's from Denver..........>>>>>>>>>>
<< <i>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm suprised...!!...as collectors we should know this answer imediately...You flip it in the air.If it lands on heads ..it's from Phil..if it's tails then it's from Denver..........>>>>>>>>>>
What if it lands on the unlettered edge? >>
Then you will be able to read peoples minds...!!!! One of the old Twilight Zone episodes....!!! Here's the Link........... .....a penny for your thoughts!!!
<< <i>Some on this Forum claim to know the difference, but they ain't telling??? A grievious microscopic study of many many coins may provide the answer.
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I have posted regarding this several times. Do a search. TD >>
You ain't telling and who really cares. Just spin them on a table, if they creep west--D, if they creep east--P. If they creep north or south, they have received a buff and rim job.
And, there's NOT 300,000 of 'em. (Washington Plain Edges)
Based on the services, known hoards, etc., I estimate 75,000 to 100,000 max, or thereabouts.
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Yes, I've bought about 185 or so Plain Edge's from Denver rolls - two groups, one from a local coin dealer here on Ventura Blvd. (whom I've known for over 37 years), and another group from a person who found them at a Bank, also on Ventura Blvd. in Sherman Oaks, and they brought the wrappers, etc.
There is a difference, but it is NOT enough for the Grading Services to differentiate and list as "Denver"....I've sold about 170 of them with a signed letter of explaination on my company's letterhead.
Fred
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A dingy, bonified, unadulterated, paranoic maniac of low character has suggested that the US Mint deliberately alowed a number of plain edge dollars into circulation--some from Denver and and an equal number from Philly. He said this was done in an effort to inspire interest in coins they knew would be a flop. He claimed to be a numismatist or something on opium.
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How often are there such errors out of Denver ?
Please do not refer to the Wisconsin Leaf coins, as they were pre-manufactured dies and do not count as a basis for arguement.
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<< <i>Perhaps by the other coins in the roll? Just a wild guess... Cheers, RickO >>
on a more serious note: The location they are found usually will determine, also.
Does anyone know how distribution works or where the dividing lines are (State by State) on distribution of the minted business strike coins ???????????
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<< <i>Plus there's no date on them. >>
OMG, we will never know that the 2007 Wasington dollars were minted in 2007.
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<< <i>Since 300,000,000 of these coins were minted, how many dies would that be? I am thinking that even if a die lasted 100,000,000 strikes that would be alot of die varieties. Do they last longer than that? >>
A die would never last that long. Probably about 500,000-1,000,000 strikes per die is reasonable.
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<< <i>Perhaps by the other coins in the roll? Just a wild guess... Cheers, RickO >>
on a more serious note: The location they are found usually will determine, also.
Does anyone know how distribution works or where the dividing lines are (State by State) on distribution of the minted business strike coins ??????????? >>
Generally, but not always, P minted coins are distributed east of the Mississippi River while Denver minted coins are distributed west of said river.
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A grievious microscopic study of many many coins may provide the answer.
<< <i>Some on this Forum claim to know the difference, but they ain't telling???
A grievious microscopic study of many many coins may provide the answer. >>
I have posted regarding this several times. Do a search.
TD
What if it lands on the unlettered edge?
<< <i>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm suprised...!!...as collectors we should know this answer imediately...You flip it in the air.If it lands on heads ..it's from Phil..if it's tails then it's from Denver..........>>>>>>>>>>
What if it lands on the unlettered edge?
Then you will be able to read peoples minds...!!!! One of the old Twilight Zone episodes....!!!
Here's the Link........... .....a penny for your thoughts!!!
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<< <i>Some on this Forum claim to know the difference, but they ain't telling??? A grievious microscopic study of many many coins may provide the answer.
>>
I have posted regarding this several times. Do a search. TD >>
You ain't telling and who really cares. Just spin them on a table, if they creep west--D, if they creep east--P.
If they creep north or south, they have received a buff and rim job.
Based on the services, known hoards, etc.,
I estimate 75,000 to 100,000 max, or thereabouts.
Denver rolls - two groups, one from a local coin
dealer here on Ventura Blvd. (whom I've known for
over 37 years), and another group from a person
who found them at a Bank, also on Ventura Blvd.
in Sherman Oaks, and they brought the wrappers, etc.
There is a difference, but it is NOT enough for the
Grading Services to differentiate and list as
"Denver"....I've sold about 170 of them with a signed
letter of explaination on my company's letterhead.
Fred
has suggested that the US Mint deliberately alowed a number
of plain edge dollars into circulation--some from Denver and
and an equal number from Philly. He said this was done in an effort
to inspire interest in coins they knew would be a flop.
He claimed to be a numismatist or something on opium.