Unopened box auction--box opened 2006-w's

bumanchu · February 25, 2007 9:00AM

I purchased an "Unopened" box of 99 2006-w Uncirculated Silver American Eagles on ebay.

When I received them, the box had been cut open and resealed with clear cellophane tape.

The seller tells me this is the way the mint does it. They take a box of 100, open it and remove one and reseal it. The enclosed mint invoice did say 99 coins.

Is this correct??

BlindedByEgo · February 25, 2007 9:01AM

Bullcrap.

Georgems65 · February 25, 2007 9:03AM

Yea send it back. You should call the mint. They will tell you that he is crazy. Seriously. Hey lets pack the box and right before it goes out, cut it open and take one coin out. (Not true)

LITTLEEAGLE · February 25, 2007 9:05AM

not good,i have a sealed box of 100 and it has the brown tape from the mint

Coll3ctor · February 25, 2007 9:12AM

My box of 2006 20th ASE sets from the mint has clear cellophane tape.

ricko · February 25, 2007 9:17AM

This seller is lying to you... send it back... just on principle... Cheers, RickO

Akbeez · February 25, 2007 9:18AM

My sealed mint box of 30 also has clear, 3 inch wide tape, but no sign of ever being "re-opened". Got it straight from the source. If it looks like it's been cut, ripped, etc, I'd say it's been compromised...

bumanchu · February 25, 2007 9:21AM

The box in question has paper tape that had been cut and cellophane tape over that to "reseal"it.

Coll3ctor · February 25, 2007 9:24AM

<< The box in question has paper tape that had been cut and cellophane tape over that to "reseal"it. >>

I smell a fish

fountainheadgold · February 25, 2007 9:27AM

My box right from the Mint, Has clear tape and one would think it had been opened and resealed, but it was not done here

19Lyds · February 25, 2007 9:53AM

What difference does it make? I mean really?

Did you not get a good price?

Were you planning on getting First Strike?

I just don't see what difference it makes in the big picture.

LITTLEEAGLE · February 25, 2007 9:58AM

some people like it sealed,that way they are not picked over

BlindedByEgo · February 25, 2007 10:00AM

<< What difference does it make? I mean really?

Did you not get a good price?

Were you planning on getting First Strike?

I just don't see what difference it makes in the big picture. >>

He asked if this was correct, not what difference it makes.

I think it only impacts the ability (if there is one) to get the coins certified "First Strike". Other than that, you are probably right, it doesn't really matter.

mach19 · February 25, 2007 10:03AM

<< What difference does it make? I mean really?

Did you not get a good price?

Were you planning on getting First Strike?

I just don't see what difference it makes in the big picture. >>

Deception rings a bell

bumanchu · February 25, 2007 10:56AM

<< some people like it sealed,that way they are not picked over

>>

BINGO!! YOU WIN!!

bumanchu · February 25, 2007 11:00AM

One may question my sanity for saying this, but I have 8,500 reasons for expecting the box to be unsearched and unopened as it was purported to be.

RareBronzeCollector · February 25, 2007 11:09AM

<< One may question my sanity for saying this, but I have 8,500 reasons for expecting the box to be unsearched and unopened as it was purported to be. >>

And THAT is the best reason of all.........

garsmith · February 25, 2007 11:17AM

sounds like the sellers is giving you a line of the stuff that comes out of the South end of a North bound bull!

bfjohnson · February 25, 2007 11:25AM

If the mint has prepackaged boxes of 100 it might of just been easier for them to remove one than count out 99 of them.

bumanchu · February 25, 2007 11:38AM

<< If the mint has prepackaged boxes of 100 it might of just been easier for them to remove one than count out 99 of them. >>

I think that is a plausible explanation, I wish the description had mentioned the pertinent infomation regarding the taping.

I wanted to throw this out there and see what others may know/think.

It may be just as the seller said. The not mentioning it in the auction is what bothers me and makes me wonder.

COINB0Y · February 25, 2007 12:32PM

Who sold you the set? Do you have an auction number?

ddink · February 25, 2007 1:08PM

My coins usually arrive from the Mint with paper tape covering plastic tape, both sealed and obviously untampered with. However, I've never gotten 99 all in one box, but I would expect that he's trying to pull one on you.

TheNumish · February 25, 2007 1:25PM

I think the guy is telling the truth. I bought 400 of the 06-W's from the mint and some of the boxes were sealed with clear tape. You'd think I'd get 4 boxes of 100 each but it didn't happen that way. I never looked at them that close to see if they were boxes that were cut open and then resealed.

Another point if someone was trying to defraud you don't you think they would do a better job of making the box look sealed.

BECOKA · February 25, 2007 1:35PM

No way. The box should come from the mint with brown tape and postage marks all over the box to show it was not tampered with for registered mail. You cannot do this with the plastic tape.

PCGS would not accept this. Although if the original invoice is there you might get past some of the receiving guys.

Bochiman · February 25, 2007 1:38PM

I seem to recall the tape issue coming up before...people who HAD received it directly from the USMint had clear tape as well.
Some had clear, some had paper tape.

It is likely the seller was telling the truth.

How much time had passed between invoice date and receipt of goods? Not a lot of people (I wouldn't) would go through 99 of them to try to get the best one(s) (well, more than 99 to put 99 back in).

ddink · February 25, 2007 1:53PM

I've received Mint packages with clear tape too, although there's usually paper tape over it. But he said it was obviously cut open. Has anyone received anything directly from the mint with tape that has been cut and then resealed?

jamakin · February 25, 2007 2:05PM

I have recieved my ASE sets and my AGE uncirculated orders in clear taped boxes. One order I could actually see inside the box thru the bottom seam.
Buying a sealed box is risky considering there is no set criteria for what offically sealed is.
You are really only assured of paying for an offical shipping label and bill.

bluespaceant · February 25, 2007 4:19PM

Akbeez · February 25, 2007 5:32PM

<< No way. The box should come from the mint with brown tape and postage marks all over the box to show it was not tampered with for registered mail. You cannot do this with the plastic tape. >>

Not necessarily so -- I have received many boxes from the mint the past 6 months and there's been a real selection in "packaging". The ones that arrive at the same time as the mint notification email are brown taped. The ones that take 2-4 weeks longer arrived Registered Mail with brown tape and post stamps all ova' the place. Then there's the 06-W ASE box that arrives simply clear taped and no stamps -- but again, mine did not appear to be reopened -- and would not be happy if it did...

SUMORADA · February 25, 2007 9:39PM

do the blue boxes inside have a large white label on the bottom over top the regular mint label?

KeithinMD · February 25, 2007 11:16PM

It may or may not be okay, only the seller really knows. I am like you, the seller should have disclosed it in their auction. If it is a huge issue for you, but you want to keep them, ask for a couple of hundred back from the seller. What was the seller's return policy?

garsmith · February 25, 2007 11:49PM

Why don't you contact the mint to see if they are in the practice of cutting open a 100 coin box to remove a coin and then resealing it!

bumanchu · February 26, 2007 12:09AM

<< It may or may not be okay, only the seller really knows. I am like you, the seller should have disclosed it in their auction. If it is a huge issue for you, but you want to keep them, ask for a couple of hundred back from the seller. What was the seller's return policy? >>

No return policy per se, listing did invite questions and emails though.

tizofthe · February 26, 2007 6:10AM

I received 15 boxes of 2006 20th ASE sets from the mint. Two of them arrived with clear cellophane tape but none have looked to be opened. I won several boxes of 2006 w singels and none have been cut, taped or altered in any way.

Rarity · February 26, 2007 6:22AM

Two weeks ago, I went to my local Post Office to mail a package (registered). The clerk reminded me to use the brown-paper tape to cover the edges of the box because according to her "clear cellophane tape can be opened using steam or heat and the content could be stolen"

My concern is how do I know a "sealed box containing ASE sets on Ebay" is original ?

Because the ASE sets were sent in boxes and the boxes were sealed by the clear plastic tape (my friend and I both received boxes as such).

19Lyds · February 26, 2007 6:45AM

Well I guess we need some pictures since the auction link is not being posted.

As far as First Strike on individual 2006-W coins, I don't think it was available. Yes for the 20th Anniversary sets but no on the individual coins since they were shipped well after the initial release date.

Bochiman · February 26, 2007 6:51AM

<< Why don't you contact the mint to see if they are in the practice of cutting open a 100 coin box to remove a coin and then resealing it! >>

Ask the mint that question 4 different times and you are likely to get 5 different answers.

SUMORADA · February 26, 2007 7:07AM

the reason i asked about the labels is we got a 100 pc box from "the littleton hoard" @28.50 ea. they shipped in the box from the mint which had been opened and re-sealed i think they did it to remove invoices and apply these labels...............hope this helps .....maybe the seller got them the same way i did, littleton!!

mrcommem · February 26, 2007 7:09AM

I received two ASE packages from the mint Both had clear plastic tape sealing to box. No brown tape, only clear. No evidence of tampering.

57loaded · February 26, 2007 7:55AM

have seen two auctions for "99" count boxes.....i have bought from one of the sellers (a 10 ct box) and was nothing but pleased with the transaction from start to finish, only wish I had seen this light earlier.

Loaded

Unopened box auction--box opened 2006-w's

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