I didn't see anything wrong. He bought a coin on eBay and then turned around and sold it. His pictures were not great but neither were the original seller's pictures. The mirrors seem weak for a DMPL but that is why you need to know what you are buying. You bought the coin. You had an opportunity to ask the seller a question if there is something you couldn't tell from the images. Judging by the seller's feedback, I don't think he is out to "scam" anybody. I also don't think it is wise for you to be calling him/her a "theif" and that he/she is committing "fraud". It is way out of line calling him/her a slimeball. Just remember, what you say about others reflects how people see you as well.
Well said!
My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
<< <i>Boy you guys really have misguided principals if you don't have a problem with this. If this doesn't bother you I'd have serious qualms about doing business with any of you. I would serious question your integrity about life in general.
The seller IMHO is a dirtbag. This is fraud.
I'm sorry if you can't see this. I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing now.
I couldn't care less about the $600. That's lunch money in Southern California. But I am bothered by being screwed.
Out.
Bruce >>
Bruce,
We should all check our moral compasses once in awhile..... I just did a once-over on mine and everything seems to be in place.
Perhaps you should put a disclaimer on your original posts that if someone has an opinion different than yours then they likely have a moral compass issue, and you would question their integrity on life in general.
<< <i>Boy you guys really have misguided principals if you don't have a problem with this. If this doesn't bother you I'd have serious qualms about doing business with any of you. I would serious question your integrity about life in general.
For the record there is nothing wrong with flipping a coin. We live in a capitalistic society. We have the greatest economy in the world. G-d bless the seller if he wants to make or in this case try to make a profit on this coin. I have no problems with that. But it's painfully obvious that he bought the coin with the intention of reselling it and he hid the defect on the coin. The original seller makes it very apparent that the coin has this ugly brown mark on it. He also has a three day refund on his sale. My seller hides this as best as he can.
The second seller deliberately took lousy photos. He doesn't offer a refund. Retrospectively the spot is visible. The seller IMHO is a dirtbag. This is fraud. I am not committing libel. If the seller thinks so let him bring it on to me.
I'm sorry if you can't see this. I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing now.
It will be a long time until I buy a coin again online. After going to the Long Beach Show when I can see twenty coins with the same grade on slabs I done with this.
I couldn't care less about the $600. That's lunch money in Southern California. But I am bothered by being screwed.
Out.
Bruce >>
You have the right to express your opinion. I respect you for that. I think you are in error in this case. Goodby Bruce.....and, God Bless.
I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
I have better things to do with my time than discuss this further.
Brandon I'll get you a shovel and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. It might help your back from schlepping bags of coins for Anaconda.
Outa here.
Bruce >>
Bags of Coins. Bring me a shovel. What. To help him dig himself out? Use your moral compass to find your way outta this hole.
Sounds like a jolly good time. That is actually one of the best poo poo responses I've gotten yet.
I'll see your taunt and raise you one Monty Python:
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Will’sProoflikes
Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you. Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
I'm not sure why I'm wasting my time in this deteriorating dialogue, I guess because it's a slow day at work, I'm bored and I find this entertaining. I was not the one who iniated personal attacks. I presented my case. I stand behind what I said. If you disagree, fine. I respect other folks opinions but I don't have to agree with them.
If you want to block me from your auctions, block me. I'm shaking in my boots. I wouldn't want to give you my hard earned money anyway. If anyone looked at my profile they would see that I am an ideal potential buyer.
By the way, just because everyone seems to disagree with me that often times mean absolutely little to nothing. There have been thousands of times in history where the majority is wrong. This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind. The majority of Germans thought very highly of Hitler. Bad analogy but for the open minded you might get my drift. Most Americans also thought we were justified attacking Iraq and now five years later the opposite view is prevalent
<< <i> By the way, just because everyone seems to disagree with me that often times mean absolutely little to nothing. There have been thousands of times in history where the majority is wrong. This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind. The majority of Germans thought very highly of Hitler. Bad analogy but for the open minded you might get my drift. Most Americans also thought we were justified attacking Iraq and now five years later the opposite view is prevalent
Holla,
Bruce >>
Just when I thought you couldn't make your argument any worse, you bring Hitler and Nazis into this. You're just batting 1000 today aren't you?
Poor comparison and analogy. And, you did give the air of "if you disagree with me, YOU are wrong".
People have pointed out why they don't feel the seller is wrong. Have you taken pictures of the coin yet? Care to post them? From what I see, I can see the mark you are talking about, in both sellers' pictures but don't feel that is a huge point.
Did you, or did you not, see the "no returns on 3rd party slabs"? Did you, or did you not, ask questions prior to bidding?
You are certainly coming across as caustic when people aren't agreeing with you. What did you really want from your original post?
"Boy you guys really have misguided principals if you don't have a problem with this. If this doesn't bother you I'd have serious qualms about doing business with any of you. I would serious question your integrity about life in general."
"I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing"
"Brandon I'll get you a shovel and you can stick it where the sun don't shine."
"This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind."
I have never sold a coin in my life before. Perhaps that explains my bias from a buyers perspective. But if I do sell the coin on ebay guys, I'll be sure to give you a heads up and you can critique my listing. I certainly don't want to offend anybody out here or dimininsh my credibility.
I have a high profile business and am continulously exposed to the general public. I am frequently in the newspaper or on television. If I treated my target audience the way I was I'd go bust in one week. Business is about customer service. Judging from some of the responses I have read I seriously wonder about some of you.
It seems to me that the seller just sold a coin (open to all bidders) with the brief description stating its grade and certification by PCGS. What is the problem here? It even has pictures! There are many coins bought and sold sight unseen in the major periodicals. Supposedly that's what we have the expert graders at third party grading companies for. So there is a spot? It didnt bother PCGS. Maybe your problem should be with them, as it seems you put your trust in the holder. Never buy anything on ebay without a return policy. If this guy has such a policy you should have emailed him with your desire to return the coin. If you havent gotten a response then you have to file a claim under ebay's buyer protection. Still a nice looking coin in my eyes. Good luck with it.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
<< <i>I have never sold a coin in my life before. Perhaps that explains my bias from a buyers perspective. But if I do sell the coin on ebay guys, I'll be sure to give you a heads up and you can critique my listing. I certainly don't want to offend anybody out here or dimininsh my credibility.
I have a high profile business and am continulously exposed to the general public. I am frequently in the newspaper or on television. If I treated my target audience the way I was I'd go bust in one week. Business is about customer service. Judging from some of the responses I have read I seriously wonder about some of you.
Holla
Bruce >>
If you work with newspapers and televisions and express your points there the way you have on these forums (condescending, arrogant, and obtuse), I'm surprised you ARE still in business.
You decided to buy this coin. You bought the coin based upon the pictures that were provided. You failed to look closely at the pictures to see the "spot". You failed to request more info from the seller (better pics..what is that spot, etc?). You bought the coin with the sellers terms clearly stated (ie. no TPG coin return policy).
It's your fault. Take responsibility for your actions, learn a lesson from this, and move on.
I'm not smarter than you Bruce! I made a silly decision I wish I hadn't a few months ago related to a coin sale. It was my fault for not being more careful....but it won't happen again!
"All that is gold does not glitter..." -JRR Tolkien
<< <i>I have never sold a coin in my life before. Perhaps that explains my bias from a buyers perspective. But if I do sell the coin on ebay guys, I'll be sure to give you a heads up and you can critique my listing. I certainly don't want to offend anybody out here or dimininsh my credibility.
I have a high profile business and am continulously exposed to the general public. I am frequently in the newspaper or on television. If I treated my target audience the way I was I'd go bust in one week. Business is about customer service. Judging from some of the responses I have read I seriously wonder about some of you.
Holla
Bruce >>
You think selling coins is that seller's business? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I sell on ebay, but it certainly isn't a business for me. You really need to see the big picture here and I think that may be what is causing the issue....you are looking very narrowly at this because it affects you.
So...........have you determined what caused that spot? There is still no good pic of this 1881S here, but from what I can see, it appears to be the outline left by something that spilled on the coin. I don't think it's a toning spot. Someone must have tried to dip it before submission, but couldn't get it off. I would think it was docked for that. (hence the next question) Does it appear to be 66 material to you, without the spot/stain taken into account?
Wow, one o f the most amazing threads I've read in a long time. Some guy flips a coin for less than a $10 profit and the buyer thinks he got screwed. Then the flames get bigger and bigger.
P.S I think the seller has a return policy - so what's the problem? Just send it back.
Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
<< <i>I didn't see anything wrong. He bought a coin on eBay and then turned around and sold it. His pictures were not great but neither were the original seller's pictures. The mirrors seem weak for a DMPL but that is why you need to know what you are buying. You bought the coin. You had an opportunity to ask the seller a question if there is something you couldn't tell from the images. Judging by the seller's feedback, I don't think he is out to "scam" anybody. I also don't think it is wise for you to be calling him/her a "theif" and that he/she is committing "fraud". It is way out of line calling him/her a slimeball. Just remember, what you say about others reflects how people see you as well. I've updated my bidder list.
Did you look at his other photos? Probably not, they are all taken kind of like this one. I think it's just the way he images coins. You even said that the spot is visible in his auction photos. >>
Buying DMPL Morgans without seeing them in hand is very risky in the first place. The pictures that were taken of this DMPL are crap and do not show the true looks of the coin. When the seller received this DMPL, he could finally see it up close and saw the spot. Also, the coin looks like it has very little contrast against the fields, not very typical for the 81-S in DMPL.
I can see why this one went back on the auction block instantaneously.
A Bit late to the party here but I will take exception to being compared to Nazis.
I have bought and sold many many thousands of dollars of coins, metals , and paper Money on Ebay. Not once promoted here BTW, actually prefer to keep them to myself. I have been on Ebay almost 10 years, over 550 transactions and a feedback of 100%. I have bought and sold everything from Computers to Cars. I have been burnt once, Paypal made the transaction right. I have lost one sale of a proof collection in the mail, I refunded the money , up front, eventually the USPS found it and returned it to me before the Insurance refund.
I can say I have some experience with Ebay. That said...
I NEVER do business without a return policy. Ever. (I refund for any reason , period. Less shipping. )
If you get caught buying anything based on a dgital image, and there is no refund , it tough on you, its your resposibility. The terms were clear, the images were what the images where and are ALWAYS inferior to any visual inspection in person. The same thing would apply to cars for that matter.
In this case intent to defraud buy the seller in question will be tough to prove. Its a matter of personal responsibility , there are no returns, clearly stated , and by participating in the auction you agreed to those terms. It is what it is. Caveat Emptor. its no ones fault but yours cupcake.
For those who would like to Check out my feedback or story , or BLOCK me (puleeze), my Ebay ID is : sellbybid
If I have done any business with folks here, thanks , no matter if I purchased or sold. Overall Ebay has been a good experience, not perfect, but good.
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy. Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy. Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce >>
Nothing to do with what the thread was created for, but I have to ask, what the H is "Holla"? I know what "Hola" is but have never seen a "Holla"....
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy. Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce >>
Nothing to do with what the thread was created for, but I have to ask, what the H is "Holla"? I know what "Hola" is but have never seen a "Holla".... >>
Boik, you are hopelessly out of date. Ask any teenage girl.
I tend to think the definition Bruce is using is "trying to talk to someone or just saying goodbye" and probably NOT "used by dark skinned people of African descent as well as obscenely annoying light skinned people descended from northern New Jersey" OR "A way for a brotha to say he wants to get in your pants"...
I'm just amazed that there is such thing as Godwin's law and it has been supported by this thread. Maybe we all need to get out more.
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Will’sProoflikes
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy. Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce >>
I'm glad we had a good discussion at Long Beach. I remember speaking with many friendly folks out there. If you were one of them then I appreciate you coming by and taking time out to chat. I enjoy all of the discussions I have with collectors at shows. It's something I look forward to at each show. No, I won't schelp bags for you.
I actually think I am a pretty nice guy. If I came off strong in this thread, it was in response to how you treated the seller of the coin you bought and how you treated my friends on this board because they disagreed with you. I did like how it spiraled down to Monty Python jokes though.
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Well said!
<< <i>Boy you guys really have misguided principals if you don't have a problem with this. If this doesn't bother you I'd have
serious qualms about doing business with any of you. I would serious question your integrity about life in general.
The seller IMHO is a dirtbag. This is fraud.
I'm sorry if you can't see this. I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing
now.
I couldn't care less about the $600. That's lunch money in Southern California. But I am bothered by being
screwed.
Out.
Bruce >>
Bruce,
We should all check our moral compasses once in awhile..... I just did a once-over on mine and everything seems to be in place.
Perhaps you should put a disclaimer on your original posts that if someone has an opinion different than yours then they likely have a moral compass issue, and you would question their integrity on life in general.
<< <i>Boy you guys really have misguided principals if you don't have a problem with this. If this doesn't bother you I'd have
serious qualms about doing business with any of you. I would serious question your integrity about life in general.
For the record there is nothing wrong with flipping a coin. We live in a capitalistic society. We have the greatest economy in the world. G-d bless the seller
if he wants to make or in this case try to make a profit on this coin. I have no problems with that. But it's painfully obvious that he bought the coin
with the intention of reselling it and he hid the defect on the coin. The original seller makes it very
apparent that the coin has this ugly brown mark on it. He also has a three day refund on his sale. My seller hides this
as best as he can.
The second seller deliberately took lousy photos. He doesn't offer a refund. Retrospectively the spot is visible.
The seller IMHO is a dirtbag. This is fraud. I am not committing libel. If the seller thinks so let him bring it on to
me.
I'm sorry if you can't see this. I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing
now.
It will be a long time until I buy a coin again online. After going to the Long Beach Show when I can see twenty
coins with the same grade on slabs I done with this.
I couldn't care less about the $600. That's lunch money in Southern California. But I am bothered by being
screwed.
Out.
Bruce >>
You have the right to express your opinion. I respect you for that. I think you are in error in this case. Goodby Bruce.....and, God Bless.
I have better things to do with my time than discuss this further.
Brandon I'll get you a shovel and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. It might help your back
from schlepping bags of coins for Anaconda.
Outa here.
Bruce
<< <i>I'm done with this.
I have better things to do with my time than discuss this further.
Brandon I'll get you a shovel and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. It might help your back
from schlepping bags of coins for Anaconda.
Outa here.
Bruce >>
<< <i>I'm done with this.
I have better things to do with my time than discuss this further.
Brandon I'll get you a shovel and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. It might help your back
from schlepping bags of coins for Anaconda.
Outa here.
Bruce >>
Sounds like a jolly good time. That is actually one of the best poo poo responses I've gotten yet.
I'll see your taunt and raise you one Monty Python:
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Will’sProoflikes
<< <i>Hey poorguy, read my sigline!! >>
Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
Check this link out: Monty Python Quotes
And placed you on my BLOCKED LIST!!
Death and Taxes" ~~ Ben Franklin
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<< <i>I've updated my bidder list
And placed you on my BLOCKED LIST!!
Thanks for saving me the time.
I was not the one who iniated personal attacks. I presented my case. I stand behind what I said. If you disagree, fine. I respect other folks opinions but
I don't have to agree with them.
If you want to block me from your auctions, block me. I'm shaking in my boots. I wouldn't want to give you my hard earned money anyway.
If anyone looked at my profile they would see that I am an ideal potential buyer.
By the way, just because everyone seems to disagree with me that often times mean absolutely little to nothing. There have been thousands of times in history
where the majority is wrong. This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind. The
majority of Germans thought very highly of Hitler. Bad analogy but for the open minded you might get my drift. Most Americans also thought
we were justified attacking Iraq and now five years later the opposite view is prevalent
Holla,
Bruce
<< <i>
By the way, just because everyone seems to disagree with me that often times mean absolutely little to nothing. There have been thousands of times in history
where the majority is wrong. This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind. The
majority of Germans thought very highly of Hitler. Bad analogy but for the open minded you might get my drift. Most Americans also thought
we were justified attacking Iraq and now five years later the opposite view is prevalent
Holla,
Bruce >>
Just when I thought you couldn't make your argument any worse, you bring Hitler and Nazis into this.
Better throw out that shovel and rent a backhoe.
And, you did give the air of "if you disagree with me, YOU are wrong".
People have pointed out why they don't feel the seller is wrong. Have you taken pictures of the coin yet? Care to post them?
From what I see, I can see the mark you are talking about, in both sellers' pictures but don't feel that is a huge point.
Did you, or did you not, see the "no returns on 3rd party slabs"?
Did you, or did you not, ask questions prior to bidding?
You are certainly coming across as caustic when people aren't agreeing with you. What did you really want from your original post?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
"Boy you guys really have misguided principals if you don't have a problem with this. If this doesn't bother you I'd have
serious qualms about doing business with any of you. I would serious question your integrity about life in general."
"I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing"
"Brandon I'll get you a shovel and you can stick it where the sun don't shine."
"This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind."
Yes, you certainly have taken the high road here.
<< <i>This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind. >>
Godwin's Law triumphs again!
to give you a heads up and you can critique my listing. I certainly don't want to offend anybody out here or dimininsh my credibility.
I have a high profile business and am continulously exposed to the general public. I am frequently in the newspaper or on television.
If I treated my target audience the way I was I'd go bust in one week. Business is about customer service. Judging from some
of the responses I have read I seriously wonder about some of you.
Holla
Bruce
Never buy anything on ebay without a return policy. If this guy has such a policy you should have emailed him with your desire to return the coin. If you havent gotten a response then you have to file a claim under ebay's buyer protection.
Still a nice looking coin in my eyes. Good luck with it.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
<< <i>I have never sold a coin in my life before. Perhaps that explains my bias from a buyers perspective. But if I do sell the coin on ebay guys, I'll be sure
to give you a heads up and you can critique my listing. I certainly don't want to offend anybody out here or dimininsh my credibility.
I have a high profile business and am continulously exposed to the general public. I am frequently in the newspaper or on television.
If I treated my target audience the way I was I'd go bust in one week. Business is about customer service. Judging from some
of the responses I have read I seriously wonder about some of you.
Holla
Bruce >>
If you work with newspapers and televisions and express your points there the way you have on these forums (condescending, arrogant, and obtuse), I'm surprised you ARE still in business.
Edited to say: Did you say "Holla"?
You decided to buy this coin.
You bought the coin based upon the pictures that were provided.
You failed to look closely at the pictures to see the "spot".
You failed to request more info from the seller (better pics..what is that spot, etc?).
You bought the coin with the sellers terms clearly stated (ie. no TPG coin return policy).
It's your fault. Take responsibility for your actions, learn a lesson from this, and move on.
I'm not smarter than you Bruce! I made a silly decision I wish I hadn't a few months ago
related to a coin sale. It was my fault for not being more careful....but it won't happen again!
-JRR Tolkien
<< <i>I have never sold a coin in my life before. Perhaps that explains my bias from a buyers perspective. But if I do sell the coin on ebay guys, I'll be sure
to give you a heads up and you can critique my listing. I certainly don't want to offend anybody out here or dimininsh my credibility.
I have a high profile business and am continulously exposed to the general public. I am frequently in the newspaper or on television.
If I treated my target audience the way I was I'd go bust in one week. Business is about customer service. Judging from some
of the responses I have read I seriously wonder about some of you.
Holla
Bruce >>
You think selling coins is that seller's business? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I sell on ebay, but it certainly isn't a business for me. You really need to see the big picture here and I think that may be what is causing the issue....you are looking very narrowly at this because it affects you.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
That's one of my favorite lines in that movie!!
<< <i>This is one of the most baffling posts I've ever read in the forum. >>
It's just Munday. We're just getting started.
Whoops, gotta run. I forgot I have to go "schlepp bags of coins for Anaconda."
P.S I think the seller has a return policy - so what's the problem? Just send it back.
<< <i>I didn't see anything wrong. He bought a coin on eBay and then turned around and sold it. His pictures were not great but neither were the original seller's pictures. The mirrors seem weak for a DMPL but that is why you need to know what you are buying. You bought the coin. You had an opportunity to ask the seller a question if there is something you couldn't tell from the images. Judging by the seller's feedback, I don't think he is out to "scam" anybody. I also don't think it is wise for you to be calling him/her a "theif" and that he/she is committing "fraud". It is way out of line calling him/her a slimeball. Just remember, what you say about others reflects how people see you as well. I've updated my bidder list.
Did you look at his other photos? Probably not, they are all taken kind of like this one. I think it's just the way he images coins. You even said that the spot is visible in his auction photos. >>
Buying DMPL Morgans without seeing them in hand is very risky in the first place. The pictures that were taken of this DMPL are crap and do not show the true looks of the coin. When the seller received this DMPL, he could finally see it up close and saw the spot. Also, the coin looks like it has very little contrast against the fields, not very typical for the 81-S in DMPL.
I can see why this one went back on the auction block instantaneously.
I have bought and sold many many thousands of dollars of coins, metals , and paper Money on Ebay. Not once promoted here BTW, actually prefer to keep them to myself. I have been on Ebay almost 10 years, over 550 transactions and a feedback of 100%. I have bought and sold everything from Computers to Cars.
I have been burnt once, Paypal made the transaction right. I have lost one sale of a proof collection in the mail, I refunded the money , up front, eventually the USPS found it and returned it to me before the Insurance refund.
I can say I have some experience with Ebay. That said...
I NEVER do business without a return policy. Ever. (I refund for any reason , period. Less shipping. )
If you get caught buying anything based on a dgital image, and there is no refund , it tough on you, its your resposibility. The terms were clear, the images were what the images where and are ALWAYS inferior to any visual inspection in person. The same thing would apply to cars for that matter.
In this case intent to defraud buy the seller in question will be tough to prove. Its a matter of personal responsibility , there are no returns, clearly stated , and by participating in the auction you agreed to those terms. It is what it is. Caveat Emptor. its no ones fault but yours cupcake.
For those who would like to Check out my feedback or story , or BLOCK me (puleeze), my Ebay ID is : sellbybid
If I have done any business with folks here, thanks , no matter if I purchased or sold. Overall Ebay has been a good experience, not perfect, but good.
Azcoindevil
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to
discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy.
Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when
he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal
my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce
<< <i>Guys,
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to
discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy.
Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when
he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal
my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce >>
Nothing to do with what the thread was created for, but I have to ask, what the H is "Holla"?
I know what "Hola" is but have never seen a "Holla"....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>
<< <i>Guys,
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to
discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy.
Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when
he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal
my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce >>
Nothing to do with what the thread was created for, but I have to ask, what the H is "Holla"?
I know what "Hola" is but have never seen a "Holla".... >>
Boik, you are hopelessly out of date. Ask any teenage girl.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>What the H is "holla"? >>
There are some definitions for this at "urbandictionary.com"
Definitions For Holla
<< <i>I hope you all have better moral compasses in life if this is what you are showing
now. >>
My moral compass appears to be broken......
It keeps telling me that Nazi references/comparisons are not appropriate.
<< <i>This is one of the most baffling posts I've ever read in the forum. >>
and probably NOT "used by dark skinned people of African descent as well as obscenely annoying light skinned people descended from northern New Jersey" OR "A way for a brotha to say he wants to get in your pants"...
edited: to capitalize the N of New Jersey
Will’sProoflikes
<< <i>I'm done with this. >>
No point in beating this dead horse anymore.
The name is LEE!
Very entertaining. Thanks for the laughs guys.
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etexmike
<< <i>
<< <i>I'm done with this. >>
No point in beating this dead horse anymore. >>
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>Guys,
Let's call this quits. If I offended anybody, and I'm sure I may have, I'm sorry. I don't want to
discuss this anymore. I'm done responding to this stupid thread which I started.
Bottum line is I have a halfway decent coin. I should not have bought a coin without a return policy.
Seller IMHO was devious. If he didn't like the coin he could have returned it from the initial seller when
he first purchased it. He bought it to flip it.
Brandon, you're actually a pretty nice guy. I spoke with you at great length at Long Beach. I won't reveal
my true identity. Can you schlep my bags for me?
Peace!
Holla
Bruce >>
I'm glad we had a good discussion at Long Beach. I remember speaking with many friendly folks out there. If you were one of them then I appreciate you coming by and taking time out to chat. I enjoy all of the discussions I have with collectors at shows. It's something I look forward to at each show. No, I won't schelp bags for you.
I actually think I am a pretty nice guy. If I came off strong in this thread, it was in response to how you treated the seller of the coin you bought and how you treated my friends on this board because they disagreed with you. I did like how it spiraled down to Monty Python jokes though.
<< <i>I did like how it spiraled down to Monty Python jokes though.
I wonder if that is Godwin's Law Part 2?
You end up with Nazi's or Monty Python..and we got both!
"It's just a flesh wound!".
-k
-JRR Tolkien
<< <i>This perhaps might be a poor analogy, but Nazi Germany comes to mind. >>
GODWIN'S LAW! <-- click the link, Bruce.