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What actual percentage of 70 did you have on first PCGS sub for 2006-w platinum?

Out of 5 $100 -one 70
out of 5 $50 -zero 70
out of 8 $25 -three 70
out of 8 $10 -one 70

Also I put them in as min grade of 70 so I don't have to crack them out for their second ride to pcgs. This kind of behavior does make the grade through precentage listed by pcgs misleading. The 2006-w plats are so serious I may just keep sending them back until its obvious no more will make grade.


ericj96


How about you guys?
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too late to specify 70 min but thanks Eric, for instruction on how to play the game.
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    I knew it would happen.
  • "Also I put them in as min grade of 70 so I don't have to crack them out for their second ride to pcgs"

    Good idea eric...how do they send the 69 coins back? recased in the mint box?
  • LokiLoki Posts: 898 ✭✭
    My Results:

    out of 9 $100 -one 70 image
    out of 6 $50 -zero 70 image
    out of 6 $25 -two 70 image
    out of 6 $10 -three 70 image

    I was thinking about resubmitting some as well but I have this thought ...
    PCGS keeps the original mint capsules from the first submission so,
    Won't PCGS assume this is a resubmit and be tighter than usual with coins that are not submitted in mint capsules?

    If so, anyone have any platinum mint capsules they want to sell?? image
  • 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70

    Oh so close to a home run set - think it's worth picking up a $10 70? The ROUGH math I've done (less than 5 minutes of closed auction searching) says no. Long term could be different. What do you guys think?
  • LokiLoki Posts: 898 ✭✭


    << <i>Oh so close to a home run set - think it's worth picking up a $10 70? The ROUGH math I've done (less than 5 minutes of closed auction searching) says no. Long term could be different. What do you guys think? >>

    I would. I don't believe they are going to get any cheaper than what the current prices are. I BIN'd on a $50 last night just to complete a 70 set. I am planning to sell a $50 MS69 to offset the added cost.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Oh so close to a home run set - think it's worth picking up a $10 70? The ROUGH math I've done (less than 5 minutes of closed auction searching) says no. Long term could be different. What do you guys think? >>

    I would. I don't believe they are going to get any cheaper than what the current prices are. I BIN'd on a $25 last night just to complete a 70 set. I am planning to sell a $25 MS69 to offset the added cost. >>



    I know Loki, that's what I was thinking of doing. Thing is, these boys need to be paid for lol - but I would love to be able to hold onto a set of 70's for the long haul. I might have to get creative.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Correct my logic as need be.

    coin comes back without a 70 implies that there was an imperfection that precluded 70.

    Send coin back and it comes back 70, does it really deserve it? I see 70 as a black and white boundry. Either there's an imperfection there or not.

    I'm just amused by this whole way of thinking in this thread.
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  • << <i>Correct my logic as need be.

    coin comes back without a 70 implies that there was an imperfection that precluded 70.

    Send coin back and it comes back 70, does it really deserve it? I see 70 as a black and white boundry. Either there's an imperfection there or not.

    I'm just amused by this whole way of thinking in this thread. >>



    Grading's subjective - different day, different graders, different odds - Vegas - rolling the dice - selling the plastic - maximizing your profits - take your pick!

    If they're going to host the game, might as well play it. I am not resubmitting, but I'm not going to judge anyone that is.


  • << <i>'m just amused by this whole way of thinking in this thread. >>



    I just received an MS69 today in the mail that looks too good to be an MS69!
    When a coin looks as good as this, I'd say resubmit! And I may do so.
    Remember the rule of thumb!....Buy the coin! Not the plastic!
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭
    Send coin back and it comes back 70, does it really deserve it? I see 70 as a black and white boundry. Either there's an imperfection there or not.


    The imperfection may be in the eye of the grader......or, maybe everyone had chili-cheese burritos that day, and your coin arrived just before closing time. image
  • I got 8% on the $100, 100% on the 50 and 25 and 0% on the $10.
  • I am so nervous just waiting because I sent in three platinum sets to PCGS for grading. Because I messed up with the paperwork, it will take longer than usual. I will post when I know anything.

    I think I will keep my three 1oz platinum sealed in their individual mint boxes for a while until I decide what to do. With the date in December, I can get first strike for the three of them. I can't handle deciding what to do with them right now.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eric: PCGS has a policy of NO Min grade 70 submissions. I have no idea how your batch just made it through PCGS. Unfortunately, batches such as yours completely mess up the pop report and give the false appearance of higher than actual grade through rates when all of the MS69 coins do not make it into holders and are not reported (see PR69DC vs PR70DC on coins like $50 2006 Proof Gold as an example of such a population). I was informed Ron Guth enacted a ABSOLUTE policy of no minimum 70 grade submissions- a policy that makes perfect sense to me, especially in light of the pop reporting situation.

    Wondercoin

    P.S. You know I "luv ya" Eric - nothing personal image
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  • 2/16 = 12% - That really sucks!

    I'm sending some across the street.

    18 Fractions still in grading.
  • Sent in 3 sets. Got a 70 $50 and a 70 $25. All the rest are 69's.
    Merc collector.
  • Just got the results of my first set. They were all 69 except for one 1/4 which was 70.
  • Geek,

    I don't know. I sent my coins in 2x2 flips with cardboard between them. They just send the coins back in the 2x2 flips for me. How they would handle the box I have no idea.


    ericj96
  • Wondercoin,

    I didn't know any better. But I did send them is min 70. If the ones that did not make it come back in 69 holders so be it. :-)


    ericj96




    Also guys I think we should try to complete a 70 set if we are anywhere close. Putting together a set like this in 70 grade is going to be a massive undertaking in the long run. The material is on the market now. Work in the light.


    ericj96
  • 2006-W UNC Platinum from (4) 4 PC SETS AND (2) $100.00 SINGLES.

    $10.00 (2) MS-69 (2) ms-70
    $25.00 (4) ms-69)
    $50.00 (1) ms-69 (3) ms-70
    $100.00 (5) mS-69 (1) ms-70

    Thanks for the great imfo and advice from this forum
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    Retired Coin Shop Owner .
    Still Collecting
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  • Here are my grades just in.

    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 11204831 921105 2004-W $25 Statue of Liberty US PR69DC
    2 1 11204832 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    3 1 11204833 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    4 1 11204834 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    5 1 11204835 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70

  • Anybody have a $25 in 70 they are selling? PM me.

    Randy
  • John91CJohn91C Posts: 300 ✭✭
    This is weird but my AGE came back faster than my APE, both accepted 1/9 and the AGE's ( two 1/4, and two 1/2's) got graded by 1/17 and shipped 1/19, all came back MS69's image I'm still waiting on the APE's (just one set sent in) hoping and crossing my fingers for all MS70 but doubt it.

    John
  • Tradecoin,

    You have lots of halves and no quartes. I am the other way around. We may (all of us) get to the point all of us will need to work together to finish our sets.


    ericj96


  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70


    100%


    YEAH
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1 for 1


    1 11263784 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70 image


  • << <i>Correct my logic as need be.

    coin comes back without a 70 implies that there was an imperfection that precluded 70.

    Send coin back and it comes back 70, does it really deserve it? I see 70 as a black and white boundry. Either there's an imperfection there or not.

    I'm just amused by this whole way of thinking in this thread. >>



    i`ve seen 70`s that had a little tick or two on it and i`ve seem too many 69`s that were perfect. its all just opinions. jmo image
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  • 14.7% are MS70 FS.

    For the proof planchets that were used to mint the Plats, PCGS is way too tight with grading. Just looking at the pops for the Proofs tells you things are out of wack.

    To say I am disappointed is an understatement. If the Plat Graders at NGC are too loose, than without a doubt the Plat Graders at PCGS are too tight.

    There has to be a better balance because it is obvious that this will hurt sales. With ONLY 2,500 coins, not 250,000, grades need to be relative, not absolute, IMHO.

    ....but all and all, I'll take it ;> .....

    1. 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2. 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    3. 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    4. 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    5. 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    6. 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    7. 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    8. 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    9. 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    10. 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    11. 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    12. 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    13. 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    14. 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    15. 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    16. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    17. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    18. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    19. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    20. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    21. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    22. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    23. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    24. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    25. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    26. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    27. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    28. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    29. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69

    30. 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    31. 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    32. 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    33. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    34. 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
  • coinboy... looks like you got a perfect 70 set plus a whole bunch of 69 sets. i don`t see any reason to complain.
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  • LOL....I know, that does sound like the whiner I am!image

    I suppose I'll admit that I am in that new generation of coin collectors who what everything *perfect* image


    pssst...just don't tell anyone, ...but I am really happy as hell to even had the chance to get the coins, let alone having so many.

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  • Classof67Classof67 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭
    2 out of 8, 25%

    JT
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  • Well Coinboy or is that Platboy...:-) at least you have a FULL set of pcgs-70 2006 unc plat commems that you have all of about $2700 in. Plus a load of these crazy low mintage type coins.....could be LOTS worse.



    ericj96
  • I know Eric. and all I could do was whine...I am embarrassed.

    I am buying up some PCGS MS 70's to get at least 3 sets. I got (2) hard ones out of the way, the $50's.

    The (1) 1 oz. is going to be tough.....
  • Out of 1 $100 - no 70
    Out of 3 $50 - one 70
    Out of 5 $25 - one 70
    Out of 5 $10 - two 70

    I'm awaiting grades on a second submission and will post those later. I'm moderately pleased with these grades. I knew the $100 wouldn't get a 70 because it had some discoloration on the obverse.

    4/14 = 28.5%
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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    Here is my 1 for 1 on the 1 ozers.

    My photos are getting better, but still along way to go.

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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    It looks like an off metal, red, must be on copper.image

    I like it like this betterimage

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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    Yeah but my 1st strike sticker is waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy sweeter. So image
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  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭


    << <i>2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
    2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70

    Oh so close to a home run set - think it's worth picking up a $10 70? The ROUGH math I've done (less than 5 minutes of closed auction searching) says no. Long term could be different. What do you guys think? >>



    If your goal is to keep 1 set, I'd sell the 69's and buy the 70 your missing.

  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭
    First sub. was 37.5% Had to buy the $50 on eBay for the complete MS70 set.

    Overall, I'm sitting at 33.3%.image
  • Well, my second submission came in.

    Out of two $50 - no 70.
    Out of six $100 - only one 70.

    1/8 = 12.5% image

    Paired with my first submission is 5/22 = 22.7% image

    Why are these rates so much lower than the current pops?!

    Well, at least I got one complete MS70 set. image
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  • bumanchubumanchu Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭
    Here is my first submission: 69's four, 70's zero

    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 11244071 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty US MS69
    1 2 11244072 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty US MS69
    2 1 11244073 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2 2 11244074 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    3 1 11244075 89994 2006-W $50 Eagle-20th Anniversary Rev Proof US PR69

    Total Items: 5


    And I ain't lying this time.
  • bumanchubumanchu Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭
    Second submission: 69's one, 70's one

    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 11379649 21128 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty US MS70
    1 2 11379650 21128 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty US MS69

    total items: 2
    And I ain't lying this time.
  • Sent 4 $100 coins. 3 came back as MS69 with 1 MS70.
    25%
  • Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 11379831 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2 1 11379832 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    2 2 11379833 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
    3 1 11379834 79980 2006-W $5 Eagle US MS69
    4 1 11379835 21012 2006-S $5 San Francisco Old Mint US MS69
    5 1 11379836 21013 2006-S $5 San Francisco Old Mint US PR69DC
    6 1 11379837 89989 2006-W $50 Eagle US MS69
    7 1 11379838 79982 2006-W $10 Eagle US MS70
    8 1 11379839 79983 2006-W $25 Eagle US MS70

    Total Items: 9

  • raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭
    n #: 11203466
    Date, mintmark: 2006-W
    Denomination: $25
    Variety: Statue of Liberty First Strike
    Pedigree:
    Country: The United States of America
    Grade: MS70

    I only submitted a single $25 and received an MS 70. When I submitted my AGE set, it came back as MS 70, RP 70, 69DCAM. I guess I have been VERY lucky with PCGS last year. I an only hope this year is as good. I've yet to submit my silver sets for grading. maybe I should before my luck runs out! LOL Ray
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2006 Satin "W" Plats:

    2 of 3 $10.00 MS-70
    0 of 3 $25.00 MS-70
    0 of 3 $50.00 MS-70
    0 of 3 $100.00 MS-70

    The remaining 14 coins were all MS-69.
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    I knew it would happen.
  • Platinum $100- 1 MS70 out of 10 10%
    $50 1 MS70 out of 10 10%
    $25 1 MS70 out of 25! 4%
    $10 1 MS70 out of 10 10%

    The last 2 submissions(bulk) I have done through a local dealer have both been atrocious... haven't seen any worse... Maybe they don't like that dealer.

    Gold $25 1 ms70 out of 50! 2%
    $10 3 ms70 out of 60! 5%
    $5 3 ms70 out of 60! 5%


    The gold submission above was also done with the Platinum.

    Earlier I had sent in 40 sets of ASE;

    got 20 reverse proof 68's
    20 reverse proof 69's



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  • I sent in the 6 $100 coins that I received and just got my grades. I have 5 at MS69 and 1 at MS70, so I guess I did about average.

    I also learned (the hard way) about how the Mint processes credit cards. I placed 4 orders for 3 coins each (the sets were sold out by then) on 12/18. I broke it up into multiple orders just in case there was a problem, I would at least get some of the coins. Well Chase (issuing bank for Credit Card) blocked all of my transactions but 1 (one order was placed on another card). The mint tries to get 2 approvals and then cancels the order, and I was too late in calling Chase to tell them to let the charges go (that they were indeed legit) so I lost 6 of the coins to cancelled orders.

    Now I know to call the CC company after placing an order so they go through. But I'm happy that I did get 6 coins anyway.

    Any speculation as to what the MS70 will go for in 6-24 months?
    I'd keep playing. I don't think the heavy stuff will be coming down for quite a while!
  • I had the same problem with Chase. I had a hunch after I placed the order, sure enough security flagged it. The Mint was declined on the first attempt (4 sets) however I got to Chase before the Mint submitted the second time the next day and it was approved. They are idiots over there at Chase. I have (3) Chase cards.

    I suspect credit card companies like Chase cost many people a chance to get the Plats.
  • PCGS-70 $100 2006-W PLATINUM UNC COMMEM PRICE AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS....OVER 6 GRAND.

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