At least Spazzy is going to all the proper legal channels at his workplace, which is a start. I hope he feels better about the incident now that some of us have given him some input and told him not to worry.
Lawyers can be true heroes, but I also understand what Stevak is saying and do not disagree with him.
Lawyers can potentially wield a great amount of power and there are some Angels out there that use it to help people who faced moral or legal injustices. However, I am having trouble finding such good lawyers, but I know they exist.
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<< <i>Oh poor baby - this lawyer "only" got a million dollars. He'll have trouble making payments now on his fifth summer home in Palm Springs on this paltry sum. And I'm sure this attorney had loads of expenses such as maybe 40 hours worth of paralegal time at $20 an hour. An $800 investment turned into a million dollars, and we all get to pay for it, over and over again!
spoken like a true non-lawyer. What's the matter, couldn't get into lawschool? >>
Stand up for yourself. Have some self respect... but take care of it on your own. Lawsuits for something like that are why the country is the way it is. Grow some and make a stand on your own. I personally like the retaliation approach. Curious, though. Did the giver of this "gift" use it first? Hmm, maybe it is from his personal collection.
<< Oh poor baby - this lawyer "only" got a million dollars. He'll have trouble making payments now on his fifth summer home in Palm Springs on this paltry sum. And I'm sure this attorney had loads of expenses such as maybe 40 hours worth of paralegal time at $20 an hour. An $800 investment turned into a million dollars, and we all get to pay for it, over and over again!
spoken like a true non-lawyer. What's the matter, couldn't get into lawschool? >>
A little thinned skinned are we?
mike
I believe stevek deserved that retort with his previous post. Lawyers may not be popular, but begrudging someone just because they make a good living seems foolish and nothing more than sour grapes. Lots of people in many different professions make way more than they should (bankers, ballplayers, plumbers, etc.), but that's the American way.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i><< Oh poor baby - this lawyer "only" got a million dollars. He'll have trouble making payments now on his fifth summer home in Palm Springs on this paltry sum. And I'm sure this attorney had loads of expenses such as maybe 40 hours worth of paralegal time at $20 an hour. An $800 investment turned into a million dollars, and we all get to pay for it, over and over again!
spoken like a true non-lawyer. What's the matter, couldn't get into lawschool? >>
A little thinned skinned are we?
mike
I believe stevek deserved that retort with his previous post. Lawyers may not be popular, but begrudging someone just because they make a good living seems foolish and nothing more than sour grapes. Lots of people in many different professions make way more than they should (bankers, ballplayers, plumbers, etc.), but that's the American way. >>
You're entitled to your opinion but actually I do not begrudge those who gain wealth, and even enormous wealth from bringing good products and services to society. For example, I've never made a negative comment about Bill Gates and all the billions of dollars he has earned.
And that's fine that someone goes through the additional time and expense to receive their law degree. They deserve to make a good living. But I do get angry when a certain group of people act as parasites upon society and that's exactly what scumbag lawyers are...parasites. They extort money through the legal system mainly for their own huge profit at the expense of the taxpayers. Parasites need to be taken care of in the proper manner - it's a major problem that is getting worse and in some regards is out of control.
Bush pledged to do something about this but when 9/11 occurred, and now the war in Iraq, this need got pushed back. Now with Democrats in control of both houses, and with the Democratic Party being pro-trial lawyer, tort reform isn't going to happen.
So as your insurance premiums, medical bills, and other things continue to rise higher and higher because of parasitic lawyers...you can say, "but that's the American Way" as you're writing out your larger check.
Bush pledged to do something about this but when 9/11 occurred, and now the war in Iraq, this need got pushed back. Now with Democrats in control of both houses, and with the Democratic Party being pro-trial lawyer, tort reform isn't going to happen.
It wasn't going to happen anyway. The system is set up this way for a reason, and neither party is interested in changing it. Lawyers are typically conservative, by the way.
It's obvious you have a bias against lawyers so I won't try to debate you on this, but let's hope you never need one for a truly legitimate reason and leave it at that.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I am sorry to hear you are in such a predicament. There have been many examples of this in many lines of work as people cross the line. Most of the time people will respect a one-on-one with the person - and after this if they continue to cross the line - then I go to management.
Since someone has mentioned there wouldn't be much monetary value since there haven't been any expenses - here is a fun idea - buy a couple of cases of cards - as a sign of duress - and then stick them with the bill - of course you won't get reimbursed - but the next time you see those bozo's you won't be thinking about the doll, you'll be thinking about the autographed PSA 10 Longoria you pulled - or the BGS 10 Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt double thread, double auto, double white house floor card that Topps will probably be coming out with soon.
Seriously - try talking one on one with the guys...if they respect you they will realize they crossed the line and they will respect you more - and if they are total jerks - then you covered yourself in letting them know it bothered you so if you take it up the ladder...you'll have your early rungs covered. Good luck!
<< <i>Bush pledged to do something about this but when 9/11 occurred, and now the war in Iraq, this need got pushed back. Now with Democrats in control of both houses, and with the Democratic Party being pro-trial lawyer, tort reform isn't going to happen.
It wasn't going to happen anyway. The system is set up this way for a reason, and neither party is interested in changing it. Lawyers are typically conservative, by the way.
It's obvious you have a bias against lawyers so I won't try to debate you on this, but let's hope you never need one for a truly legitimate reason and leave it at that. >>
Most lilkely the vast majority of adults have needed a lawyer for something in their lives, at the very least to help them with a will, perhaps a real estate transaction or business deal. Lawyers are needed, but not scumbag lawyers. I know some good lawyers and despite your comment, I have no bias against good lawyers...I'll repeat it since you ain't listening...my "bias" as you say it, is against scumbag lawyers who extort money through the legal system.
I have used lawyers for "legitimate reasons" and will continue to do so. But this I promise you...I will never use one of those scumbag lawyers who are constantly seen on TV with their sales pitch or who take out full page ads in the phone book imploring people to contact them. If you remember...advertising by lawyers basically used to be illegal and I say it should be made illegal again...that would be another good start to get this bad problem under control.
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At least Spazzy is going to all the proper legal channels at his workplace, which is a start. I hope he feels better about the incident now that some of us have given him some input and told him not to worry.
Lawyers can be true heroes, but I also understand what Stevak is saying and do not disagree with him.
Lawyers can potentially wield a great amount of power and there are some Angels out there that use it to help people who faced moral or legal injustices.
However, I am having trouble finding such good lawyers, but I know they exist.
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<< <i>Oh poor baby - this lawyer "only" got a million dollars. He'll have trouble making payments now on his fifth summer home in Palm Springs on this paltry sum. And I'm sure this attorney had loads of expenses such as maybe 40 hours worth of paralegal time at $20 an hour. An $800 investment turned into a million dollars, and we all get to pay for it, over and over again!
spoken like a true non-lawyer. What's the matter, couldn't get into lawschool? >>
A little thinned skinned are we?
mike
spoken like a true non-lawyer. What's the matter, couldn't get into lawschool? >>
A little thinned skinned are we?
mike
I believe stevek deserved that retort with his previous post. Lawyers may not be popular, but begrudging someone just because they make a good living seems foolish and nothing more than sour grapes. Lots of people in many different professions make way more than they should (bankers, ballplayers, plumbers, etc.), but that's the American way.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i><< Oh poor baby - this lawyer "only" got a million dollars. He'll have trouble making payments now on his fifth summer home in Palm Springs on this paltry sum. And I'm sure this attorney had loads of expenses such as maybe 40 hours worth of paralegal time at $20 an hour. An $800 investment turned into a million dollars, and we all get to pay for it, over and over again!
spoken like a true non-lawyer. What's the matter, couldn't get into lawschool? >>
A little thinned skinned are we?
mike
I believe stevek deserved that retort with his previous post. Lawyers may not be popular, but begrudging someone just because they make a good living seems foolish and nothing more than sour grapes. Lots of people in many different professions make way more than they should (bankers, ballplayers, plumbers, etc.), but that's the American way. >>
You're entitled to your opinion but actually I do not begrudge those who gain wealth, and even enormous wealth from bringing good products and services to society. For example, I've never made a negative comment about Bill Gates and all the billions of dollars he has earned.
And that's fine that someone goes through the additional time and expense to receive their law degree. They deserve to make a good living. But I do get angry when a certain group of people act as parasites upon society and that's exactly what scumbag lawyers are...parasites. They extort money through the legal system mainly for their own huge profit at the expense of the taxpayers. Parasites need to be taken care of in the proper manner - it's a major problem that is getting worse and in some regards is out of control.
Bush pledged to do something about this but when 9/11 occurred, and now the war in Iraq, this need got pushed back. Now with Democrats in control of both houses, and with the Democratic Party being pro-trial lawyer, tort reform isn't going to happen.
So as your insurance premiums, medical bills, and other things continue to rise higher and higher because of parasitic lawyers...you can say, "but that's the American Way" as you're writing out your larger check.
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It wasn't going to happen anyway. The system is set up this way for a reason, and neither party is interested in changing it. Lawyers are typically conservative, by the way.
It's obvious you have a bias against lawyers so I won't try to debate you on this, but let's hope you never need one for a truly legitimate reason and leave it at that.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Since someone has mentioned there wouldn't be much monetary value since there haven't been any expenses - here is a fun idea - buy a couple of cases of cards - as a sign of duress - and then stick them with the bill - of course you won't get reimbursed - but the next time you see those bozo's you won't be thinking about the doll, you'll be thinking about the autographed PSA 10 Longoria you pulled - or the BGS 10 Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt double thread, double auto, double white house floor card that Topps will probably be coming out with soon.
Seriously - try talking one on one with the guys...if they respect you they will realize they crossed the line and they will respect you more - and if they are total jerks - then you covered yourself in letting them know it bothered you so if you take it up the ladder...you'll have your early rungs covered. Good luck!
<< <i>Bush pledged to do something about this but when 9/11 occurred, and now the war in Iraq, this need got pushed back. Now with Democrats in control of both houses, and with the Democratic Party being pro-trial lawyer, tort reform isn't going to happen.
It wasn't going to happen anyway. The system is set up this way for a reason, and neither party is interested in changing it. Lawyers are typically conservative, by the way.
It's obvious you have a bias against lawyers so I won't try to debate you on this, but let's hope you never need one for a truly legitimate reason and leave it at that. >>
Most lilkely the vast majority of adults have needed a lawyer for something in their lives, at the very least to help them with a will, perhaps a real estate transaction or business deal. Lawyers are needed, but not scumbag lawyers. I know some good lawyers and despite your comment, I have no bias against good lawyers...I'll repeat it since you ain't listening...my "bias" as you say it, is against scumbag lawyers who extort money through the legal system.
I have used lawyers for "legitimate reasons" and will continue to do so. But this I promise you...I will never use one of those scumbag lawyers who are constantly seen on TV with their sales pitch or who take out full page ads in the phone book imploring people to contact them. If you remember...advertising by lawyers basically used to be illegal and I say it should be made illegal again...that would be another good start to get this bad problem under control.
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