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An interesting situation concerning ASE MS69s.........

Lets face it, collectors like complete sets.

Having said that I'll point out there is an interesting situation in the populations of First Strike ASEs.
While there are 2459 graded PR69/70DCAMs and 1945 reverse proofs graded PR69/70 there are only a total of 1559 of the Unc. graded MS69(no70s).

Now if a collector wants to assemble a complete set of MS69-PR69-PR69DCAM or a set of finest known 69MS-PR70-PR70DCAM he is running into a shortage of the MS69s!!

I will not be surprised if we see the FS 20th Anniversary MS69s end up equaling the reverse proof PR69s in price.

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>he is running into a shortage of the MS69s!! >>



    More likely he's running in to a surplus of the proofs.

    Russ, NCNE
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275


    << <i>More likely he's running in to a surplus of the proofs. >>



    Yep. To me, 1500 is not a small number and shouldn't be any trouble putting those coins together in a set.
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    LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    So there are more than 1500 holder collectors ?image
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    dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    <<< Having said that I'll point out there is an interesting situation in the populations of First Strike ASEs.
    While there are 2459 graded PR69/70DCAMs and 1945 reverse proofs graded PR69/70 there are only a total of 1559 of the Unc. graded MS69(no70s). >>>



    To get the FS designation, didn't the coins have to be submitted intact in sealed boxes, and wouldn't that mean an equal number of each of the FS coins graded? Or is it that people could specify only certain coins in the sets be graded and the rest returned?




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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To get the FS designation, didn't the coins have to be submitted intact in sealed boxes >>



    Or, arrive by the cutoff date.

    Russ, NCNE
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    The reason there is an inbalance is two fold.............
    First in the case of the regular proofs there is a very high percentage that grade PR69/70DCam.

    Secondly many of the first shipped sets were opened and while you could still submit the Reverse Proof for FS and 20th Anniversary inserts the Unc and the regular proofs didn't qualify.

    Look at PCGS sets on Eaby and you'll see a significant number now showing up where the Reverse Proof and the regular proof are First Strike while the Unc. lacks the FS designation.

    All I am saying is someone with a FS Reverse and FS regular proof is going to want a MS with that same little FS flag to match his other two coins. No arguement as to whether it makes any sense, just an observation..................
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I ran into a tree once.image
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    << <i>I ran into a tree once.image >>


    Get jelly all over ya'..???
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    more RP's sent in because of the quarterly freebie?image
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    From the feedback on this forum I would say that there are hundreds if not thousands of unopened sets waiting for the right time to be graded.

    As long as it is done slowly over time the market will not be saturated (maybe already getting close) and prices will either stabilize or start to go back up at some time.
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    << <i>Lets face it, collectors like complete sets.

    Having said that I'll point out there is an interesting situation in the populations of First Strike ASEs.
    While there are 2459 graded PR69/70DCAMs and 1945 reverse proofs graded PR69/70 there are only a total of 1559 of the Unc. graded MS69(no70s).

    Now if a collector wants to assemble a complete set of MS69-PR69-PR69DCAM or a set of finest known 69MS-PR70-PR70DCAM he is running into a shortage of the MS69s!!

    I will not be surprised if we see the FS 20th Anniversary MS69s end up equaling the reverse proof PR69s in price. >>



    Actually the First Strike 20th Anniversary Silver MS69 ASEs are now bringing more than the PR69 Reverse Proofs!
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I ran into a tree once.image >>



    Were you looking for honey or a jelly donut?
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    Imagine what an MS70 06-W 20th Circ Strike would go for?
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    One Million Dollars..........since PCGS is no longer awarding MS70 to UNC SAE's due to latent milk spotting after they are slabbed.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    anoldgoatanoldgoat Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Lets face it, collectors like complete sets.

    Having said that I'll point out there is an interesting situation in the populations of First Strike ASEs.
    While there are 2459 graded PR69/70DCAMs and 1945 reverse proofs graded PR69/70 there are only a total of 1559 of the Unc. graded MS69(no70s).

    Now if a collector wants to assemble a complete set of MS69-PR69-PR69DCAM or a set of finest known 69MS-PR70-PR70DCAM he is running into a shortage of the MS69s!!

    I will not be surprised if we see the FS 20th Anniversary MS69s end up equaling the reverse proof PR69s in price. >>



    It seems you were right.

    Just check ebay.

    I didn't agree or disagree at the time. But did think there was some merit. My 20th FS MS69's did better than the Rev PR69's. That is where I thought you were wrong, I thought the Rev Pr would be the leader. But hey.

    Mike
    Alright! Who removed the cork from my lunch?

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    Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭
    If you have an unopened early date box can you still send it in and get the first strike label ?
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    raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭
    Was it this tree?
    You only live life once, enjoy it like it's your last day. It just MIGHT be!

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    BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    That section of the tree has an eerie resemblance to a ...... image
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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    Yeah, I though the tree was part of an X-rated movie, no wonder bears ran into it!image
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    raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭
    Sorry, I had to tame it down for the day time crew and YN's. Ray
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    anoldgoatanoldgoat Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you have an unopened early date box can you still send it in and get the first strike label ? >>



    As long as the unopended box has the required dates, yes. I turned mine in at the SC show on 11-18, the box was marked 10-19. I received all designations.

    Mike
    Alright! Who removed the cork from my lunch?

    W.C. Fields

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