Pettite a Yankee, Again
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And Clemens is on record saying he'll play wherever Pettite does.
I guess this throws out the 'we're going back to our roots' crapola ca$hman was spewing the other day?
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I guess this throws out the 'we're going back to our roots' crapola ca$hman was spewing the other day?
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Pettitte IS the Yankees roots for one thing. And 16 million for Andy Pettitte for one season is CHUMP CHANGE compared to the stupid money thrown around by all thus far. AND ..... pitching, pitching, pitching is all the Yankees have concentrated on thus far. I like it!
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He will chew up 200 innings and win 15 games.
Add in the fact that Clemens may follow him and it is a no brainer.
Steve
<< <i>Well,
Pettitte IS the Yankees roots for one thing. And 16 million for Andy Pettitte for one season is CHUMP CHANGE compared to the stupid money thrown around by all thus far. AND ..... pitching, pitching, pitching is all the Yankees have concentrated on thus far. I like it! >>
It really is chump change compared to what others are getting.
Congrats Yankee fan. It sucks to see him go because Clemens will probably follow.
<< <i>“I had offered the Astros $14 million and an option,” Randy Hendricks said. “But they wouldn’t take it. Both teams know that if Andy gets hurt, he won’t take the option. The Astros flat turned me down.” >>
I'm starting a "Fire Tim Purpura" petition
Just doesn't make sense.
:scratches head:
The Yanks need starting pitching desperately, so you can see why they paid him - but I wouldn't get too excited just yet. I'd also be shocked if Clemens went back to the Yanks also, at this point in his career, does he really need to deal with New York again?
what mess are you talking about?
as for clemens ny is where he got his ring.
not sure i fully understand what you are talking about.
Steve
<< <i>gotten out of the Yankee clubhouse mess
what mess are you talking about?
as for clemens ny is where he got his ring.
not sure i fully understand what you are talking about.
Steve >>
I think I understand his point, allow me to interpret: Yankees Suck, always will.
Was that about right?
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<< <i>gotten out of the Yankee clubhouse mess
what mess are you talking about?
as for clemens ny is where he got his ring.
not sure i fully understand what you are talking about.
Steve >>
I think I understand his point, allow me to interpret: Yankees Suck, always will.
Was that about right? >>
Lets also not forget that Pettite knows HOW to pitch in NY. What a great deal after seeing what others are getting. I bet Mussina wishes he could take back his 11.5/year and go for 15. Who knew this much money would flow around for pitching.
I have a feeling that since Pettite signed with NY that Clemens is ready for full retirement. You cant tell me that Pettite and Clemens havent been on the phone discussing their futures with each other.
Im still very surprised at this. It was well publicized that Pettite's family didnt want him going back to NY. Obviously there was some change of heart!
Andy Pettite, against the American League in 2006, had an ERA of 6.57!
Welcome back, Andy.
<< <i>Interesting fact -
Andy Pettite, against the American League in 2006, had an ERA of 6.57!
Welcome back, Andy. >>
And how many innings did this happen in?
<< <i>I don't know who is more nuts - the Astros, who for $2M more could have resigned him - the Yankees, who are paying $16M for a pitcher with recent injury problems, not exactly in the prime of his career, and coming off a very average season at best - or Pettite himself, who had gotten out of the Yankee clubhouse mess and was home comfortable in Houston.
The Yanks need starting pitching desperately, so you can see why they paid him - but I wouldn't get too excited just yet. I'd also be shocked if Clemens went back to the Yanks also, at this point in his career, does he really need to deal with New York again? >>
Ahhhh Jerry. You are as reliable as the sun rising in the morning
You keep thinking like you do. I can't wait till "D-Mat" is put on the BUST shelf with the miserable disaster of Coco Crisp. You know, the less then average center fielder who was supposed to replace Johnny Damon
You comment on 16 million for Pettitte? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH You just wait to see what Scott Boras sucks out of the Red Sox for the wonder boy from Japan . HAHAHAHAHAHA
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The Red Sox (if they sign wonder boy) have been extorted out of OVER 100 million dollars for a guy who has never pitched in the Major Leagues.
Now THAT is FUNNY
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Andy Pettitte pitched 436 innings in the past two years. How does a pitcher with "recent" injury problems pitch 436 innings in the last two years? I know why.
Jerry,
when we get as old as we are now ..... things that happened even 10 years ago get confused with last month ..... I do it too
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You made 2 comments.
1 ........regarding the clubhouse mess. when pettite was around what mess? the mess was last yr. pettite wasn't here.
2.......... Clemens and NY. Why wouldn't he want to come back? It is afterall where he WON his ring.
Barndog, Yanks suck? perhaps, but that is not an answer to the 2 statements that Jerry had made.
instead of hiding behind Barndogs silly reply you will expand on your 2 comments?
Steve
"Something" tells me this move isn't going to work out for them - no World Series appearance again...just a hunch.
<< <i>Remember Cashman just said that the Yankees were going to start in the direction of bringing up players from their farm system.
"Something" tells me this move isn't going to work out for them - no World Series appearance again...just a hunch. >>
I suppose you would have to know a little about the Yankees farm system.
The Yanks have some excellent arms in the farm system. Some just brought in through trades this winter. But not all guys in the farm system are ready for the bigs. They want to give their main young arms some more time....Hughes, Clippard, and Sanchez...right now who appear to be their biggest 3.
Looking to the future, they Yanks wont have Randy Johnson, Carl Pavano, Andy Pettite...and depending on Mussina, he could be gone too.
It's looking good for Yankees starting pitching as far as very talented young arms.
Just something to think about for those of you who dont know enough about the Yankees farm system and give your opinions.
For this year, its not shaping up too badly....and will be much better if they get some middle relief to help out Scott Proctor.
I guess it's my hunch they Yankees will be in the running once again this year.
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<< <i>Remember Cashman just said that the Yankees were going to start in the direction of bringing up players from their farm system.
"Something" tells me this move isn't going to work out for them - no World Series appearance again...just a hunch. >>
I suppose you would have to know a little about the Yankees farm system.
The Yanks have some excellent arms in the farm system. Some just brought in through trades this winter. But not all guys in the farm system are ready for the bigs. They want to give their main young arms some more time....Hughes, Clippard, and Sanchez...right now who appear to be their biggest 3.
Looking to the future, they Yanks wont have Randy Johnson, Carl Pavano, Andy Pettite...and depending on Mussina, he could be gone too.
It's looking good for Yankees starting pitching as far as very talented young arms.
Just something to think about for those of you who dont know enough about the Yankees farm system and give your opinions.
For this year, its not shaping up too badly....and will be much better if they get some middle relief to help out Scott Proctor.
I guess it's my hunch they Yankees will be in the running once again this year. >>
I'm not a Yankees basher by any means. In fact I don't dislike any team in the American League since except when they play my Phils, they don't of course conflict with my Phils getting to the World Series.
Again...just a hunch...when things start looking too easy in sports, there is often failure for a variety of reasons, maybe complacency being the biggest reason. Being rich with a guaranteed contract, being on a team with multiple superstars figuring they can carry any load, and reading all the headlines saying that they are absolutely expected to win the pennant, in my opinion doesn't bode well for these stars to get fully motivated...and that is usually a kiss of death to winning a championship.
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<< <i>Again...just a hunch...when things start looking too easy in sports, there is often failure for a variety of reasons, maybe complacency being the biggest reason. Being rich with a guaranteed contract, being on a team with multiple superstars figuring they can carry any load, and reading all the headlines saying that they are absolutely expected to win the pennant, in my opinion doesn't bode well for these stars to get fully motivated...and that is usually a kiss of death to winning a championship. >>
I have no idea what you are trying to say but I don't think any Yankee fan thinks anything will be easy? Is that what you mean?
Also, as far as the farm system goes the Yankees have bulit very good young depth with the pitching. Nobody should kid themselves..... the Yankees have good young pitching very close to being ready for the bigs with Philip Hughes leading everybody and Tyler Clippard not far behind. After that is a good bunch of hard throwing kids. The future looks bright. I think Hughes has a decent shot at the 5th slot in the rotation. Hughes is a STUD blue chipper.
Two years from now or even late next year some of these kids will be emerging. I like what the Yankees have done all off season. Pitching, Pitching, Pitching from the big leage level to the minor league level.
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1. Under the best-case scenario, the Yanks would have the veteran quintet of Pettitte, Mike Mussina, Randy Johnson, Carl Pavano and Chien-Ming Wang starting and import Kei Igawa either in the bullpen or at Columbus. But how often does the best case play out? Johnson and Pavano are coming back from significant injuries. Pettitte's presence enables each to rehab without pressure that they must be ready to start the season.
2. The stress is lessened around Igawa. If he needs to be in the minors for an adjustment period, so be it.
3. Scott Proctor can stay in the pen, where he proved so valuable, rather than being forced into the rotation.
4. The team's prospects get more than a great role model to see in spring training. Pettitte's arrival also means the Yanks can keep all of their prospects, notably Phil Hughes, in the minors to begin the season to continue their education. No one has to be rushed now. This also provides a stockpile of options for when the inevitable injuries occur. Between Double-A and Triple-A, the Yanks should have Hughes, Humberto Sanchez, Tyler Clippard, Jeff Karstens, Darrell Rasner and Steven White vying to be summoned. It is the best Yankees depth in a while.
5. With Pettitte enabling the organization to have greater minor-league depth, the Yanks are in better position to use the depth to make a trade now for, say, a first baseman, or in spring training, or in the June/July trade market when a need arises.
6. Now if Pavano really does come to camp in shape and pitching well, the Yanks might be able to trade his whole contract. He has two years at $23 million left and, in this runaway market, that might be viewed as a worthwhile gamble for a club desperate for a starter.
7. The market must be factored into all of this. The Yanks needed to add a proven starter. Does Pettitte come with risk? You bet. He has a touchy elbow and he is returning from the NL to the AL. But the whole landscape is filled with risk. And at two years and $32 million, Pettitte is a better risk than Ted Lilly at four years ($40 million), Gil Meche at five years ($55 million) and Barry Zito at what probably will be six years (near $100 million). Pettitte could turn out to be a mistake, but it goes away in two years, maximum.
8. Pettitte's arrival also might serve as inducement to bring Roger Clemens back to The Bronx. Pettitte's departure from Houston severely dampens the chance the Rocket goes back to the Astros should he again, as expected, decide to play. The Red Sox appear the favorite because Clemens was trying to get back there in July last year for all the marketing and nostalgic reasons associated with going full-circle with Boston. But the Yanks, should they decide they even want Clemens, are now better positioned to get him because his pal, Pettitte, has done his own full circle.
I agree.
steve
<< <i>WELCOME HOME PETITE and hopefully Clemens next
BAH!
At least get his name right
Edited to add: The title is wrong too but that doesn't surprise me one bit
Now when the Rocket returns to the Bronx all the BoSox fans can start whining.
Bill
<< <i>
<< <i>Again...just a hunch...when things start looking too easy in sports, there is often failure for a variety of reasons, maybe complacency being the biggest reason. Being rich with a guaranteed contract, being on a team with multiple superstars figuring they can carry any load, and reading all the headlines saying that they are absolutely expected to win the pennant, in my opinion doesn't bode well for these stars to get fully motivated...and that is usually a kiss of death to winning a championship. >>
I have no idea what you are trying to say but I don't think any Yankee fan thinks anything will be easy? Is that what you mean?
Also, as far as the farm system goes the Yankees have bulit very good young depth with the pitching. Nobody should kid themselves..... the Yankees have good young pitching very close to being ready for the bigs with Philip Hughes leading everybody and Tyler Clippard not far behind. After that is a good bunch of hard throwing kids. The future looks bright. I think Hughes has a decent shot at the 5th slot in the rotation. Hughes is a STUD blue chipper.
Two years from now or even late next year some of these kids will be emerging. I like what the Yankees have done all off season. Pitching, Pitching, Pitching from the big leage level to the minor league level. >>
<<< I have no idea what you are trying to say but I don't think any Yankee fan thinks anything will be easy? Is that what you mean? >>>
Again, it's just a hunch. We'll know next October if it panned out.
I honestly feel the Yanks did good with this signing, it allows them some leverage now in the pitching dept. like those outlined above.
Steve
<< <i>WELCOME HOME Andy!!!!!!
Now when the Rocket returns to the Bronx all the BoSox fans can start whining.
Bill >>
It's so predictable - I'll bet Yankee fans, who have really nothing to talk about this off season except getting rid of Sheffield, are all excited now about Pettite and, they hope, Clemens. Unfortunately, it's not 1996 anymore, and Pettite scares no one. He does indeed have a potentially troublesome arm, he'll be going back to the AL East from the notoriously weak NL Central (its a bit different pitching to Manny and Ortiz, rather than some scrubs on the Pirates), and as a pitcher who induces a high level of ground balls versus fly balls - he will go from having solid Adam Everett at SS to the weaker fielder Jeter behind him.
I wouldn't be so sure that Clemens is a lock to follow Pettite anyway, they are not joined at the hip. I'm sure the Yanks will entice him with bushels of cash, but Clemens doesn't really need it. I still think he wants one more tour back in Boston, but there might not be a spot for him this season anyway.
Having said that, this Pettite signing is still a move that the Yanks had to make. It makes sense for them, and only for them, but you can see why they did it. I'm sure it's also to appease their fan base a bit, too - after an unusually quiet off season in NY.
<< <i>I'll bet Yankee fans, who have really nothing to talk about this off season except getting rid of Sheffield, are all excited now about Pettite and, they hope, Clemens. >>
Not really.
Steve
<< <i>
- he will go from having solid Adam Everett at SS to the weaker fielder Jeter behind him.
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Should Red Sox fans be worried more about a team that stupidly threw 51 million dollars at a guy who has never pitched in the majors? Then after bidding the 51 million have the nuts to low ball the guy
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I'm still bitter we didn't re-sign him. It was almost like they were saying, "I hear you knocking but you can't come in."
<< <i>Should Red Sox fans be worried more about a team that stupidly threw 51 million dollars at a guy who has never pitched in the majors? Then after bidding the 51 million have the nuts to low ball the guy >>
You do realize that the Yanks spent $25M for this Igawa guy, who also hasn't pitched in the majors, and is several levels below Matsuzaka in talent, according to scouting reports. Plus, the deal for Pettite is closer to $22M for the Yanks, due to the luxury tax they will have to pay on his salary. So, the Yanks have also spent nearly $50M for an unproven pitcher, and one essentially on the downside of his career with recent injury issues. This is better?
The Sox front office has made great moves this offseason, it kills you to admit it. Forget this Damon nonsense, he wasn't coming back anyway - and like I have been saying all along, his offer was all about him not being a major player in years 3-4 of his deal (see Pedro Martinez for a perfect illustration of this, and how the Sox decision to not give him the extra years looks brilliant now).
If signing Pettite and Mussina is all the Yanks do in this offseason, I'm fine with that. But something tells me the Yanks will react to the Matsuzaka signing this week with a "look at us" move of their own. We'll see.
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The Sox front office has made great moves this offseason, it kills you to admit it. Forget this Damon nonsense, he wasn't coming back anyway - and like I have been saying all along, his offer was all about him not being a major player in years 3-4 of his deal (see Pedro Martinez for a perfect illustration of this, and how the Sox decision to not give him the extra years looks brilliant now).
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Forget the Damon "nonsense" ??? You mean the Damon DEBACLE.
Anyway, some interesting blurbs from Boston's own Dan Shaughnessy about these "great" Red Sox moves:
Theo is the man in the middle. And he's newly vulnerable -- like a skinny small forward planted in the paint, closing his eyes, and waiting to take a charge from Karl Malone.
A year after his weird walkaway, Theo is throwing dollars around like a young George Steinbrenner. In New York Yankee fashion, he's been bidding against himself for some players and never again can he stand on the Fenway lawn and say the Red Sox do not have the means to compete financially with the erstwhile Evil Empire.
This is a critical offseason for the one-time boy wonder. A couple of years ago, Theo enjoyed the infinite trust of the fandom (Bill Belichick-style), but he's been in a slump since winning the World Series in 2004, trading away most of the 2006 National League award winners, and failing to have his team ready for the infamous five-game set with the Yankees last summer. A series of deals blew up in his handsome face and the 2006 Red Sox -- though ravaged by injuries -- were not equipped to compete when the Yankees came to town for that season-ending series.
Bottom line: When you have the second-highest payroll in baseball, finishing in third place in your division is unacceptable. John Henry may love Theo like a son, but the owner didn't become a billionaire by making emotional decisions and he has to be expecting a better return on his investment in 2007.
After outbidding their closest competitor by more than $10 million in the Matsuzaka sweeps, the Sox committed $70 million to a passionless, often-hurt showcase warrior who did not appear to have any other suitors. Right fielder (don't be surprised if he ends up in center) Drew goes into the books as Theo's Bonus Baby, and if Drew doesn't deliver, the GM will incur the wrath of the fans and the owner. For five years.
By any measurement, signing Drew to this ridiculous contract (one former GM predicts it'll go down as the worst contract signing in the history of baseball) is an admission that the Sox made the wrong move with Johnny Damon -- a player who demonstrated that he could perform in the Boston fishbowl.
Let's not forget Julio Lugo. After being committed to defense in 2006, the Sox junked super-glove Alex Gonzalez in favor of a wall-banging shortstop who is going to make a lot of errors. At a fee of $36 million
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Some said that they would prefer him over Jeter?
Steve
Steve
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<< <i>Derek Jeter would fit nicely into any lineup including the Boston Red Sox. To think otherwise is crazy. Can anybody imagine Jeter, Ortiz, Ramirez hitting 2,3,4 or 3,4,5, ??? Jerry, take off the glasses man
I'd don't think Jeter would hit that well in a Boston uniform, what with all of that booing going on.
yeah jeter loses so many games with his defense <EYEROLL>
Steve
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<< <i>Should Red Sox fans be worried more about a team that stupidly threw 51 million dollars at a guy who has never pitched in the majors? Then after bidding the 51 million have the nuts to low ball the guy >>
You do realize that the Yanks spent $25M for this Igawa guy, who also hasn't pitched in the majors, and is several levels below Matsuzaka in talent, according to scouting reports. Plus, the deal for Pettite is closer to $22M for the Yanks, due to the luxury tax they will have to pay on his salary. So, the Yanks have also spent nearly $50M for an unproven pitcher, and one essentially on the downside of his career with recent injury issues. This is better?
The Sox front office has made great moves this offseason, it kills you to admit it. Forget this Damon nonsense, he wasn't coming back anyway - and like I have been saying all along, his offer was all about him not being a major player in years 3-4 of his deal (see Pedro Martinez for a perfect illustration of this, and how the Sox decision to not give him the extra years looks brilliant now).
If signing Pettite and Mussina is all the Yanks do in this offseason, I'm fine with that. But something tells me the Yanks will react to the Matsuzaka signing this week with a "look at us" move of their own. We'll see. >>
Let me add something to this - it seems the Yankees actually have to pay 40% luxury tax on top of the $16M they gave to Pettite. So, what this means is, they are paying $30M for one season of pitching. And, in all liklihood, an over 5.00 ERA. Amazing.
<< <i>
Let me add something to this - it seems the Yankees actually have to pay 40% luxury tax on top of the $16M they gave to Pettite. So, what this means is, they are paying $30M for one season of pitching. And, in all liklihood, an over 5.00 ERA. Amazing. >>
That is Bogus. Really stretching things out Jer with that one. You are creative but you DO realize that the 51 million posted for D-Mat will have to be figured in to his yearly salary if signed with this kind of logic???
Nice signing, nice move, needed move .... sorry the less then bright leadership of the Red SOx throws 70 million dollars at the notorious soft and injured J.D Drew, lets Damon go for Coco Crisp, and bids 70% of the value of an entire Japanese franchise just to talk to one of their players, and signs a infielder with a big slab of swish cheese for a glove and a wet noodle for a bat. Tough winter huh?
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<< <i> I'd don't think Jeter would hit that well in a Boston uniform, what with all of that booing going on. >>
But if he was drafted a Sox there would be no booing!
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I would assume that the clubs base it on 40 man roster.
not on the signing of a player that may have brought them over the top.
Steve