Rush Limbaugh show and new dollar

renman95

The guest host today was slamming the new bulky presidential coins..."and when will the gov't learn." He cited the demise of the Sacagawea, SBA. Interesting. A lot of people listen so apathy for this new coin is already spreading.

Zoins

He's just saying the same thing that's been said here many times. He can't be wrong if we've come to the same conclusion

ScarsdaleCoin

the really sad part....is that as a dealer the WORST silver rounds / silver ingots to ever sell are the ones with President Theme.... If the mint would just put something interesting on the $1 coins they would have a real good chance to be accepted by the general public...

...but no one cares about the past presidents......Birds, Flowers, anything would do better then a dead old man....

Zoins

Don't US proof sets of dead men on coins still sell well? I think the big difference is that's legal tender US coinage. Once it comes from the US Mint, at least a certain number of people will buy it.

Zoins

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<< <i>I think Rush said the dollar coins will be a failure. Do you think they'll be successful? >>

Define "successful". >>

I was just at my local bank and I asked the teller if they had any $1 coins. He had some Sacs and SBAs but told me people refuse to take them when he attempts to give them as change. To me, one useful definition of successful in this scenario is when the average person won't refuse the coins.

SportsModerator2

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500Bay

While I did not listen to Rush about the new dollar coins, what is said above his comments seem on the mark.
The public does not seem to want a dollar coin. I do not believe a dollar coin will be accepted until the dollar bill is eliminated.

Working with that assumption, it seems to me the new dollar coins are merely another commerative coin to be sold to collectors rather than to actually circulate.

sumnom

The guest host today was slamming the new bulky presidential coins..."and when will the gov't learn." He cited the demise of the Sacagawea, SBA. Interesting. A lot of people listen so apathy for this new coin is already spreading.

Bulky?

I can't help but get the feeling that many people are opposed to a dollar coin without ever having tried to use one. I just don't see what the fuss is. I use them ona daily basis and find them quite convenient.

renman95

Hey you Numismatists, it's Roger Hedgecok that made the statement. My point is that even before the Mint tries to promote a new dollar and say that it's different this time, a talk show host is already planting the seed to its listeners that this will go the way of the SBA.
Note: I had to change Roger's last name by one letter because the editing police thought it was offensive...that's funny.

Coxe

<< <i>Note: I had to change Roger's last name by one letter because the editing police thought it was offensive...that's funny. >>



I hate that. It nails me every time I try to use the name of the guy who owned the Eliasberg 1804 dolar before Eliasberg. It is "At water", with the two words merged together. At least they don't ban my name as vulgar....yet.

pharmer

<< <i>Good morning everyone.

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Thanks,

Carol >>



Well?

RYK

My son and wife took our public transit light rail to the football game last weekend, and he was pretty excited when he received an SBA for change at the ticket kiosk. He could not wait to tell me about it and that he learned in school that there was going to be a new series of dollar coins with Presidents on them. Anything like this that gets kids interested in coins is good for the hobby.

Personally, I would support the use of dollar coins and use them myself. I do not go to the establishments where dollar bills are preferred, but I imagine our friend Derek is having a fit about this.

Bochiman

<< <i>Good morning everyone.

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Thanks,

Carol >>






Thank you!

I like the USCF to talk about coins....not about who is an idiot for their belief or some religious item. That's what the World and Ancient Coin forum & the Sportscard forum are for

coinmickey

So..is there going to be a Dansco Album for these new dollars? I just know I'll end up collecting them...

BTW- in keeping with the varied replies of this thread...and once again for old time's sake...

bhartman35

How long do you think it will be before these get to the local post offices? I usually go to the post office at least monthly to pick up dollar coins (from the stamp vending machine). I'd like to get a first-hand look at the new ones before I pass judgment.

flaminio

<< <i>How long do you think it will be before these get to the local post offices? I usually go to the post office at least monthly to pick up dollar coins (from the stamp vending machine). I'd like to get a first-hand look at the new ones before I pass judgment. >>

They're supposed to be released on or about Washington's Birthday in 2007. Probably around March would be a good time to find them, but if you can't find one, PM then and I'll send you one.

Conder101

<< <i>Good point. One of the other threads mentioned that some strip clubs were starting to give out $2s in change to increase the dancers' tips. Clever idea. >>


An action I first proposed back in 1999.



<< <i>They're supposed to be released on or about Washington's Birthday in 2007. Probably around March would be a good time to find them, >>


Of course they are also phasing out the vending machines in the Post Offices (Planning to have them all gone within three years.) so how long you will be able to get them that way will be limited.

SportsModerator2

<< <i>So, the thread's still here because people are blasting him. OK, now I get it. To get it pulled, you have to praise him.

OK, he's fond of saying that behind every double standardnudgenudge mods, there is an unconfessed single standard. So true, and pretty wise. >>



There is no double standard. This thread is walking a thin line but the coin posts are still winning, slightly.

AgMe

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<< <i>Good morning everyone.

If you would like this thread to remain, try and keep it about the coins rather than politics.
If it goes off on a political tangent then it will be deleted as the IGWT threads were when they became a religious debate.

Thanks,

Carol >>






Thank you!

I like the USCF to talk about coins....not about who is an idiot for their belief or some religious item. That's what the World and Ancient Coin forum & the Sportscard forum are for >>



I thought that was the stamp forum...

mercurynut

Even as a coin collector for almost 20 Years now, I will never except a dollar coin to be used in day to day transactions. I would much rather have 5 light wieght pieces of paper in my pocket to 5 heavy wight coins or just use my atm card.

flaminio

<< <i>Even as a coin collector for almost 20 Years now, I will never except a dollar coin to be used in day to day transactions. I would much rather have 5 light wieght pieces of paper in my pocket to 5 heavy wight coins or just use my atm card. >>

Ever been to Canada? Or Europe? Carrying high denomination coins isn't nearly the pain most people make it out to be.

But you're right about the plastic. I almost never use coins or currency anymore. Everything goes on the credit card (which I pay in full every month).

quattrocoins

<< <i>OK, he's fond of saying that behind every double standard >>



Is there any "double standard" behind which ol' rush is not standing?

renman95

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<< <i>Even as a coin collector for almost 20 Years now, I will never except a dollar coin to be used in day to day transactions. I would much rather have 5 light wieght pieces of paper in my pocket to 5 heavy wight coins or just use my atm card. >>

Ever been to Canada? Or Europe? Carrying high denomination coins isn't nearly the pain most people make it out to be.

But you're right about the plastic. I almost never use coins or currency anymore. Everything goes on the credit card (which I pay in full every month). >>



I used the euro all the time last Christmas. I traveled throughout Europe from 1997-2000 for work and used all the local coins much like the Loonie and Twoonie in Canada. It's a matter of getting use to it...but then again I get a roll of Sacs every week and hand them out for tips.

MPeter

When are these coins scheduled to be released?

renman95

<< <i>When are these coins scheduled to be released? >>



Washington's birthday 2007, or I guess it's Presidents Day to make room for another holiday. Do you still remember celebrating Lincoln's birthday!

CaptHenway

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<< <i>When are these coins scheduled to be released? >>



Washington's birthday 2007, or I guess it's Presidents Day to make room for another holiday. Do you still remember celebrating Lincoln's birthday! >>



They still do, here in Illinois! City, county and state workers get the day off. Everybody else works.
TD

dbldie55

Presidents day is our second holiday of they year (New Years day is the first, 10 day break this year with only 3 days of vacation being used)

CaptHenway

<< <i>Presidents day is our second holiday of they year (New Years day is the first, 10 day break this year with only 3 days of vacation being used) >>



Have you ever noticed that in any given calendar year, Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve fall on the same day of the week, but Christmas Day and News Year's Day never do?
TD

mnmcoin

Hell, you could put naked chicks on a $1 coin and nobody would use them as long as the dollar bill is still in circulation.

morris <><

renman95

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<< <i>Presidents day is our second holiday of they year (New Years day is the first, 10 day break this year with only 3 days of vacation being used) >>



Have you ever noticed that in any given calendar year, Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve fall on the same day of the week, but Christmas Day and News Year's Day never do?
TD >>



This year both eve's are on Sunday and both Day's are on Monday..what?

TwoSides2aCoin

Good morning to you, Carol I apologize for my passion on the IGWT thread.
I probably need meds for that,
but to keep this thread in line, here is my four bucks worth ~

CoinHusker

Hey Joe! Nice image. I have a couple of YN's who are already hitting their Grandparents up for a subscription from the Mint for a set of those.

OKbustchaser

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>Presidents day is our second holiday of they year (New Years day is the first, 10 day break this year with only 3 days of vacation being used) >>



Have you ever noticed that in any given calendar year, Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve fall on the same day of the week, but Christmas Day and News Year's Day never do?
TD >>



This year both eve's are on Sunday and both Day's are on Monday..what? >>



Admittedly, Christmas Day is on a Monday, but New Years's Day was on a Sunday.

BillJones

Americans don't want to use a dollar coin, PERIOD. The trouble is carrying around 5 one dollar bills is a lot lighter than having to carry around 5 coins, even if they are the new smaller dollars. The government and some coin collectors want to shove these things down the public's throats. Most of us just don't want to use them.

Dollar coins have almost never been popular through out American history. The last dollar coin that worked to any extent was the gold dollar prior to the Civil War. During that time from 1849 to 1861 people used the gold dollar because it was the most reliable form the the denomination. Silver dollars were too heavy to carry and had more silver in them than their face value. Paper dollars were issued only by private banks and had doubtful values that were tied to the financial health of the bank that issued them. Gold dollars were reliable.

The outbreak of the Civil War resulted in the hoarding of almost all gold and silver coinage. That ended the positive run for the gold dollar and the dollar coin.

MikeKing

If you're blind, hard coinage is an advantage, paper is an unfair disadvantage.

Conder101

<< <i>Have you ever noticed that in any given calendar year, Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve fall on the same day of the week, but Christmas Day and News Year's Day never do?
TD >>

This year both eve's are on Sunday and both Day's are on Monday..what? >>


For the calendar year 2006, Christmas eve and New Years eve fall on Sunday. Christmas Day 2006 falls on Monday. But New Years Day 2006 was on Sunday Jan 1st.

renman95

<< <i>

<< <i>Have you ever noticed that in any given calendar year, Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve fall on the same day of the week, but Christmas Day and News Year's Day never do?
TD >>

This year both eve's are on Sunday and both Day's are on Monday..what? >>


For the calendar year 2006, Christmas eve and New Years eve fall on Sunday. Christmas Day 2006 falls on Monday. But New Years Day 2006 was on Sunday Jan 1st. >>

Gemineye

<< <i>Hell, you could put naked chicks on a $1 coin and nobody would use them as long as the dollar bill is still in circulation.

morris <>< >>


It would be fun to wear them down though.....

fastrudy

I thought Martin Luther King day was the second holiday of the year.

flaminio

<< <i>I thought Martin Luther King day was the second holiday of the year. >>

At my company the second holiday of the year is Memorial Day. We work straight through all the others .

PerryHall

<< <i>I thought Martin Luther King day was the second holiday of the year. >>



You are correct. It's the second federal holiday of the year.

BobaFett72

<< <i>At my company the second holiday of the year is Memorial Day. We work straight through all the others >>



i hope you get paid Holiday Pay for working on Federal holidays!
(unless your salaried, then your screwwwed!)

flaminio

<< <i>i hope you get paid Holiday Pay for working on Federal holidays!
(unless your salaried, then your screwwwed!) >>

The latter . In more ways than one . But not the good kind .

fastrudy

I'm correct? Let me circle this day on my calendar!!!

Thank you, Perry!

Bikingnut

Ever been to Canada? Or Europe? Carrying high denomination coins isn't nearly the pain most people make it out to be.

You are right, people who claim they wouldn't want to carry around that extra change have never really had to. Having travelled to many parts of the world in my naval career, I've had to carry a lot of "extra" change. It wasn't that annoying. If you've ever been to Hong Kong, Australia, or Singapore to name a few, you would really know what it is to have a real pocket full of change. In Australia, there were 2, 5, 10, 20, 50 cent coins as well as 1 and I believe 2 dollar coins. All were commonly used. Imagine that.

All the countires that used the dollar system did away with small denomination cash years ago in favor of coins. The question that should have been asked on the show is why weren't SBA's and Sac's accepted? It's because people had a choice. Had the 1 dollar bill been removed from circulation in 1979, We would have SBA registry sets now that would contain a lot more coins.

Dennis

Myqqy

I would have no problem using dollar coins if the bills were phased out- when I go to canada, I end up using the 1 and 2 dollar coins all the time with no complaints...

ccr

<< <i>Americans don't want to use a dollar coin, PERIOD. The trouble is carrying around 5 one dollar bills is a lot lighter than having to carry around 5 coins, even if they are the new smaller dollars. The government and some coin collectors want to shove these things down the public's throats. Most of us just don't want to use them. >>



I tend to agree with this slant. Even in the 1970`s with Ikes and Kennedys, my pockets would rip a hole. Just imagine now with prices as they are these days and with credit cards, it`s a harder sell to have a $1 coin. Maybe a Ike Dollar size $5 coin might go over.

Cam40

huh, i wonder what those guys would look like with modern day hair styles...
tj sorta looks 1980ish huh.

MikeKing

<< <i>Good morning to you, Carol I apologize for my passion on the IGWT thread.
I probably need meds for that,
but to keep this thread in line, here is my four bucks worth ~
>>



Hey! Where can I get those medals???? I looked in the US Mint but couldn't find them listed???

Bikingnut

I never experienced a ripped pocket because of change. It did get uncomfortable at times, but that was because I wasn't used to using change. When my pocket got heavy, I used the change instead of pulling out the wallet. It's a mindset that will never change as long as people have a choice.

Dennis

aficionado

Well this is America and people do have a choice.

They have choosen the $1 bill and rejected the $1 coin.

end of story.