Lowest Mintage ASE?

tizofthe

I keep reading that the new 2006w is the second in the lowest mintage series. I think this is wrong. Am I not right that the 2000 millennium eagle is the second lowest with 75,000 minted then comes the 2006?

ebaytrader

For BU ASE the lowest mintage was 1996 with 3.6 million. For the proofs, it was the 1995-W with 30k.

FatMan

the millennium eagle is a coin in name only. There is no difference between the ASE distributed in the millennium set and the other millions minted. Like the recent anniversary sets, the only way to get it holdered as a millennium ASE is to submit it in the unopened set.

Bochiman

What Fatman said.
So, once you separate coin from packaging, you can't tell the difference. Going by that, the 2006-W will be the lowest minted UNC, most likely, for the series; barring a slew of 2006-w single purchases before they are removed from ordering status.

TheRaven

I don't count the millenium coin as a seperate issue.....

The 95-W is the lowest and likely to always be that.....

66Tbird

Which TPG ( of the big 3) will denote a Millennium ASE on their holder??

FatMan

<< <i>Which TPG ( of the big 3) will denote a Millennium ASE on their holder?? >>

I have seen them holdered in NGC and ICG slabs. The IGC is holder is somewhat deceptive. The date is 2000-(W). There is no mintmark on the coin, but because the set indicates they were minted at West Point they use the w in parenthesis. I fell for the gimmick back in 2000 as I bought the hype of another West Point minted ASE. Needless to say I was not happy when I discovered no mintmark and it was no different than the other millions minted.

flaminio

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<< <i>Which TPG ( of the big 3) will denote a Millennium ASE on their holder?? >>

I have seen them holdered in NGC and ICG slabs. >>

ANACS also holders them as such.

66Tbird

Thanks, NGC ANACS and ICG. The coin has the same trait as the MS Anni ASE. It looks the same, just came in a different holder. Oh wait, the Mill ASEs were only struck at West Point. That coin (or set) may move again some day.

FatMan

<< <i>Oh wait, the Mill ASEs were only struck at West Point. >>

Just so there is no misunderstanding, all Mint State 2000 ASEs were struck at West Point. That just was not widely known at the time. Most assumed they were struck at the mother mint because they had no mintmark and the Proof ASEs were struck in Philadelphia too.

66Tbird

all Mint State 2000 ASEs were struck at West Point

I didn't know that. I should of known that

Dabigkahuna

Just so there is no misunderstanding, all Mint State 2000 ASEs were struck at West Point.

Not true. Silver Eagle bullion coinage was also struck at Philadelphia that year. It wasn't until 2001 that the mint move all production to West Point.


Larry
Dabigkahuna

GAT

The 2006-W unc ASE will never be rare or low mintage, The production figure is already pushing the 400,000 mark and who knows how long the Mint will continue to mint them. So far 250,000 for the ASE silver sets, 20,000 for the two coin gold/silver sets and well over 100,000 singles have been minted and sold.

66Tbird

<< <i>Just so there is no misunderstanding, all Mint State 2000 ASEs were struck at West Point.

Not true. Silver Eagle bullion coinage was also struck at Philadelphia that year. It wasn't until 2001 that the mint move all production to West Point.


Larry
Dabigkahuna
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That's how I remember it. I didn't think I'd lost all my marbles. So the Mill sets are a simi-key. Hate to think I'd been lowballing them from the bay all these years for nothing,,,, or was I

tizofthe

Yes but even if they sold another 200.000 to 300.000 more it would still be way under the 1996 at 3.6 million. Correct?

TheRaven

Rare is a subjective term.....

Will they be rare, no.....

Will they be an important key in the ever growing silver eagle set with the 2nd lowest mintage so far, yes.....

FatMan

<< <i>Just so there is no misunderstanding, all Mint State 2000 ASEs were struck at West Point.

Not true. Silver Eagle bullion coinage was also struck at Philadelphia that year. It wasn't until 2001 that the mint move all production to West Point.


Larry
Dabigkahuna
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Larry, not to get into a pissing match here but it was in 2001 that the mint moved the proof production to West Point. The mint state production was already there in 2000. I will reference the Red Book. If you have another reference please let me know.

aficionado

I think nobody knows how these will be cataloged.

Compared to the regular bullion coin, it's very rare. The lowest mintage is 1996 with 3.6 Million.

Compared to the regular proof it's in line, except for the 1995-w. The lowest mintage is 370,000 in 1994 with a few other years in the 400K - 500K range.

Dabigkahuna

The mint state production was already there in 2000.

I know the proofs were moved that year to West Point in 2001 but up until then I believe that only the uncirculated gold eagles were exclusive to the West Point mint. The main uncirculated SAE production was at Philly. Before 2001 the mint would spill off the uncirculated Silver Eagle production to West Point when they got busy with other projects. I will hunt around for my sources but that was how I remembered it.

Dabigkahuna

I will reference the Red Book. If you have another reference please let me know



I should have known better by now than to say anything about Silver Eagle production.



The only thing I could come up with on short notice is also the Red Book!!!

Let me quote here,

"Since 2001,
regular-strike silver eagles have been produced at West Point (without mintmarks).""

FatMan

Larry

I don't see your quote in the redbook. Could you give the edition and the page number. I will send an email to whitman and get to the bottom of this as it clearly shows the 2000 mint state ASEs to have been minted at West Point on the page that lists all the mintages.

2006 Red Book - Page 326

Gemineye

<< <i>the millennium eagle is a coin in name only. There is no difference between the ASE distributed in the millennium set and the other millions minted. Like the recent anniversary sets, the only way to get it holdered as a millennium ASE is to submit it in the unopened set. >>


I find that statement utter nonsense...!!!...but I abide by the RULES non the less...
I have bought ONE set of ASE .of 2006 .ONLY ONE..I have not switched or substituted any other coin in the set ..and to deprived of the Service of the Aniversary Label is realy not fair..It also goes the same with the Millenium Dollar.If I have only one set ..I am also deprived of the label.There is no fairness to looking at ones own coin before sending it off to PCGS.It's a pity for the collector to be treated unfairly.

Dabigkahuna

John,

The mint has never been very good about putting such details in print. I was surprised the Red Book made the distinction. (this year). CoinWorld has written a couple of articles on it also but I don't have anything close at hand to go back to.


2007 Red Book (soft cover) Page 326


The mint says they were all made at West Point.

I don't trust the mint.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

FatMan

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<< <i>the millennium eagle is a coin in name only. There is no difference between the ASE distributed in the millennium set and the other millions minted. Like the recent anniversary sets, the only way to get it holdered as a millennium ASE is to submit it in the unopened set. >>


I find that statement utter nonsense...!!!...but I abide by the RULES non the less... >>

Gemineye, please tell me what is nonsense about that statement. I believe you meant to say the policy was nonsense, not the statement. Please clarify.

wayneherndon

<< Which TPG ( of the big 3) will denote a Millennium ASE on their holder?? >>

PCGS also holders them. They use coin number 9969.

WH

Gemineye

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<< <i>the millennium eagle is a coin in name only. There is no difference between the ASE distributed in the millennium set and the other millions minted. Like the recent anniversary sets, the only way to get it holdered as a millennium ASE is to submit it in the unopened set. >>


I find that statement utter nonsense...!!!...but I abide by the RULES non the less... >>

Gemineye, please tell me what is nonsense about that statement. I believe you meant to say the policy was nonsense, not the statement. Please clarify. >>


Yes in essence that is what the policy is ...You cannot see your coin before you sumit it for a label.The package has to unopened.If I open my package then my coin no longer exists as far as PCGS is concerned.

<< <i>the millennium eagle is a coin in name only >>

mrcommem

If it is not a proof, it's just bullion and in the long run it will be worth just over spot silver.

TheRaven

Then explain what is it the 96 unc eagle which is selling for about $70 is it?

Dabigkahuna

So what's a 1933 Saint if it's not bullion?

PerryHall

<< <i>So what's a 1933 Saint if it's not bullion? >>



It's a rare coin worth millions. No way can this coin be considered bullion.

Dabigkahuna

It's a rare coin worth millions. No way can this coin be considered bullion.

Why? Because it's worth millions?

PerryHall

<< <i>It's a rare coin worth millions. No way can this coin be considered bullion.

Why? Because it's worth millions? >>



Yes. Bullion is worth melt.

Dabigkahuna

Yes. Bullion is worth melt.

I can work with that.