6 down, 91 to go!!

sweetwilliet · November 10, 2006 3:01AM

Well, I got my second "dmpl doily", i.e. a deep mirror morgan in one of those old doily holders. They are a lot harder to find than you'd think. Only 95 more coins to complete the doily set. Mission impossible?

Julio · November 10, 2006 3:06AM

This thread will self destruct in ...Mission Impossible.

You are off to a fantastic start. Should you complete your mission... Well you know the rest.

. jws

flaminio · November 10, 2006 3:11AM

Great set idea. Yes, it's impossible to complete, but that doesn't spoil the thrill of the search at all. Good luck!

kryptonitecomics · November 10, 2006 5:21AM

Completely impossible......but what a lot of fun trying....good luck on your quest!!!!

GoldenEyeNumismatics · November 10, 2006 5:25AM

cool! I dont think I have ever seen a doily PCGS holder

Myqqy · November 10, 2006 6:32AM

I was wondering..... what made you decide to try and to a dmpl set in those holders? And do you think the dmpl grading for those holders is the same as the current dmpl grading from pcgs?

TorinoCobra71 · November 10, 2006 7:42AM

Mission Impossible = YES!

But I would love to be proven wrong!

Good Luck on your mission!

TorinoCobra71

sweetwilliet · November 10, 2006 9:39AM

Well, I don't think anyone has ever tried it, so I thought it would be fun. I think the technical grades on these two holders are conservative relative to current standards, the 1887 would make dmpl today, but the 1900-o would probably only be a pl by today's standards.

ricko · November 10, 2006 9:42AM

OK.. what is a 'dolly' holder.. and why is it called that? Cheers, RickO

quattrocoins · November 10, 2006 9:56AM

<< OK.. what is a 'dolly' holder.. and why is it called that? Cheers, RickO >>

RickO,

It's called a doily(d-o-i-l-y) holder, - from the design on the lable. Cheers, QuattrO

ricko · November 10, 2006 11:21AM

Thanks much Quattro... Cheers, RickO

Leiana · November 10, 2006 11:22AM

That's a cool idea, that'd be hard enough without regards to the holder!

Good luck!

-Amanda

TwoSides2aCoin · November 10, 2006 11:46AM

That is a scavenger hunt that you need to get lots of people involved with to help you. The question is : How many will do it for the sake of being friendly without pay ? If I ever see any I'll let you know where , but please send money

...just kidding. Good luck on this search. This is an interesting quest since most of these types have probably been cracked out or re-holdered long ago.

rec78 · November 10, 2006 11:53AM

Good luck!! a very long term project if possible at all.

sweetwilliet · November 10, 2006 12:03PM

Definitely a long term project. I started out with a regular morgan set, then started a pl set, which is about 40% complete. I saw the doily holders, found one in dmpl, and thought it would be really unique to collect as many as possible in pl/dmpl. I know a complete set is impossible, but will slowly build a complete pl/dmpl set with as many of these as possible. I have found through my few dealings with people here on the board that most here are in it for the fun/enjoyment and love to help out others in their search for coins. Anyhow, I'll post every time I find a new one (don't hold your breath, I've only found 2 so far). Thanks all for your posts, this is a lot of fun.

solid · November 10, 2006 1:06PM

A complete green-label set would be hard enough...doilies will be impossible unless an old set is
unearthed - then the challenge might be in paying for such a set!

Good luck, though - and keep us informed as to your progress!

Ken

Shamika · November 10, 2006 1:52PM

Clearly you purchased these two at the same time. The serial numbers indicate they were submitted to PCGS at the same time and thus likely came from an old collection that recently came to market.

To can't imagine a complete doily set could be possible, but I'll keep an eye out.

messydesk · November 10, 2006 2:05PM

<< Clearly you purchased these two at the same time. The serial numbers indicate they were submitted to PCGS at the same time and thus likely came from an old collection that recently came to market.

To can't imagine a complete doily set could be possible, but I'll keep an eye out. >>

I looked up other coins in that serial number range, and there's a bunch of 62-64 common date Morgans, so it appears you'll have to look elsewhere for any more DMPLs.

sweetwilliet · November 10, 2006 9:16PM

Clearly you purchased these two at the same time. The serial numbers indicate they were submitted to PCGS at the same time and thus likely came from an old collection that recently came to market.

I actually bought them about 6 months apart from different sellers. I noticed the exact same thing you did, that the serial numbers are very close, so I initially thought the same thing, maybe they're a bunch of dmpls in that range, but someone here was kind enough to search for us and found no more.

sweetwilliet · December 13, 2007 10:01AM

Well, it has been over a year and finally I found a third pl/dmpl doily, here she is.

Edscoin · December 13, 2007 10:28AM

Impossible to do? Well you have got the rest of your life and you will never run out of something to look for.

MORGANHUNTER2 · December 13, 2007 11:09AM

<< Definitely a long term project. I started out with a regular morgan set, then started a pl set, which is about 40% complete. I saw the doily holders, found one in dmpl, and thought it would be really unique to collect as many as possible in pl/dmpl. I know a complete set is impossible, but will slowly build a complete pl/dmpl set with as many of these as possible. I have found through my few dealings with people here on the board that most here are in it for the fun/enjoyment and love to help out others in their search for coins. Anyhow, I'll post every time I find a new one (don't hold your breath, I've only found 2 so far). Thanks all for your posts, this is a lot of fun. >>

How old are you now?

what age do you anticipate getting to in order to complete this little endeavor?

good luck tryin though.

sweetwilliet · December 13, 2007 11:51AM

I'm 34 right now, so I have a long time to complete this project. I am over 70% complete with my regular prooflike set and will acquire 1 or 2 more in the near future. These pl/dmpl doilies are really few and far between, and I know many don't exist in pl/dmpl, but will go as far as I can with it.

sweetwilliet · September 8, 2008 8:48AM

Well, nearly another year, and found my fourth pl/dmpl doily in my scavenger hunt, this time at David Lawrence. It is appropriately graded. Wow, these are tough to find!!

anablep · September 8, 2008 9:01AM

Very nice start, but at this rate it will take you 93 more years (assuming 1 doily pl/dmpl per year).

I don't think I've ever seen one of those older doily holders in person and I'm sure you're looking all over the place.

Good luck.

I'm trying the same with the older, smaller anacs holders and I'm 80% done with 19 more morgans to go. No pl/dmpl restrictions but I am looking for rim toned ones; so I know how hard it is finding just the right coin that fits your niche.

BECOKA · September 8, 2008 9:08AM

Well, as soon as you finish your normal set, I'm sure if enough money was thrown their way you could have PCGS go back to the old label for this set on a regrade or reslab..

blu62vette · September 8, 2008 9:19AM

I think this is just a real cool idea...

ctf_error_coins · September 8, 2008 9:21AM

<< I'm trying the same with the older, smaller anacs holders and I'm 80% done with 19 more morgans to go. No pl/dmpl restrictions but I am looking for rim toned ones; so I know how hard it is finding just the right coin that fits your niche. >>

As an Error Collector I have quite a few of the old ANACS little white slabs. No way I'm re-slabbing them as they are no longer made.

ErrorsOnCoins

DennisH · September 8, 2008 9:25AM

There are a couple of Morgan dates for which PCGS has never graded a DMPL at all. There are a couple of other dates where the total pop. is nearly zero.

But still, this is an awesome challenge that is well worth a hearty, "good luck and may The Force be with you!"

fc · September 8, 2008 9:31AM

i have to think the DMPL part is what makes it impossible!

morgans were graded by the ton so i bet a set could be feasible
without the DMPL.

sweetwilliet · September 8, 2008 9:38AM

<< i have to think the DMPL part is what makes it impossible!

morgans were graded by the ton so i bet a set could be feasible
without the DMPL. >>

I think so, too. I have seen a few on ebay, usually there are 2 or so for sale there at any given time. I will carry this as far as I can, you never know when one may pop up.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · September 8, 2008 9:41AM

<< Mission impossible?
>>

Yes.

bfjohnson · September 8, 2008 11:21AM

I think this thread may bring a few out that could cut the years down to around 90 years.

I love the idea and wish I had thought of it.

kryptonitecomics · September 8, 2008 11:33AM

I sold a Doily Morgan on Ebay this year but it wasn't PL or DMPL..........

Broadstruck · September 8, 2008 11:37AM

PM sent for the location of a 1884-CC Morgan dollar doily

InYHWHWeTrust · September 8, 2008 1:09PM

Great idea! Wish you all the best in your search, no matter how impossible !!

I just embarked on an impossible project too and I'm a few (like 10) years older than you... I have a mentor who is way farther along than I'll probably ever get -- but having fun

The thrill is in the chase-- and those old holders are cool

Don

sweetwilliet · June 19, 2009 6:16AM

I just got my fifth dmpl/pl doily in the mail today as I returned from the beach. Got it off the bay, not a bad deal at all. The coin itself has some purple toning around the cap that is attractive, and a little haze in front of liberty's face, that is not quite so attractive, but not as bad in hand as in the pics. Anyway, another one down, I think I can finish this project before 2100 if I'm lucky.

And here they all are in one pic.

MisterBungle · June 19, 2009 6:22AM

I don't know if this set is possible, much less probable,
but if by some miracle you do complete it, PCGS should
buy it from you!!

~

stinkinlincoln · June 19, 2009 6:27AM

Nice idea. I think itll be a real tough set to work on, as evident in 5 coins in several years. But, if you keep up the searching, as it looks like you are, youll get farther along than most expect.

The 1893-O is going to be a toughie for sure, not to mention pricey!

Walmann · June 19, 2009 6:29AM

Kudos both on the great finds and the tenacity to keep at the quest.

Bcsican · June 19, 2009 6:29AM

I was going to do a MS Franklin Doily set, but like you have found out they are very difficult to find,
A Morgan set, yes impossible but should be fun anyway...I gave up and changed to all OGHs....
good luck...you have more odds of losing your mind trying than completing...

BECOKA · June 19, 2009 6:29AM

Coming along nicely.

SeattleSlammer · June 19, 2009 8:57AM

You've got more patience than me, that's for sure.
Keep it up!
I see A LOT of slabs in my travels, and I rarely, rarely come across a doily holder, let alone a PL/DMPL Morgan.

itsnotjustme · June 19, 2009 9:12AM

You will not be able to be selective for the grade. Those sure don't appear DMPL....

sweetwilliet · June 19, 2009 10:51AM

<< You will not be able to be selective for the grade. Those sure don't appear DMPL.... >>

I think all of them would get pl today, my scans of course don't even come close to showing mirror depth. I think the 1900-o would only be pl today. The 1887 would likely make dmpl. The other 3 designated prooflike merit the designation. There is little contrast in these coins, hence they don't appear dmpl from the pics. My opinion does change a little over time, as I continually collect more pl's and dmpl's and have a better idea of what specifically PCGS is looking for for the designation.

I have had an interesting experience as of late. I have an 1891-s that to me seems a no-brainer dmpl. It was graded 62pl, and I sent it in for a regrade hoping for dmpl. I agreed with the 62 technical grade. It came back 63pl, so I am scratching my head on that one.

anablep · June 19, 2009 11:40AM

Are you moving at a pace you expected or are you going slower than you had hoped?

I'm impressed you're still at it. I'm rooting for you; keep us informed.

lordmarcovan · June 19, 2009 11:44AM

<< Mission impossible? >>

Maybe, unless you live 300 years and no more doilies get cracked out in that time. A worthy quest, though.

sweetwilliet · June 19, 2009 11:45AM

<< Are you moving at a pace you expected or are you going slower than you had hoped?

I'm impressed you're still at it. I'm rooting for you; keep us informed. >>

Yes and yes. I am going about the pace I expected, knowing that there are very few of these around. I had hoped and still hope to uncover a small stash at some point. In reality, I'm betting I can probably only find 20 or so different dates over the years, but will go as far I can with it. I have also thought about doing a complete set of doilies with as many pl's and dmpl's as possible, but haven't commited to that idea yet. With so few of these around, I usually have funds around in case one pops up somewhere.

sweetwilliet · July 10, 2009 12:10PM

Well, got another. This one a little quicker than the others, thanks to joebb21 for tracking it down and to Northeast Numismatics. There are better pics than mine on their website if you wanted to look. Here are mine, it is properly graded. The mirrors on it are no doubt dmpl, marks in the obverse fields keep it at 63.

SeattleSlammer · July 10, 2009 12:12PM

nice 81-cc......
much tougher date in dmpl, let alone the double dmpl doily
(double dmpl doily.....has a nice ring)

ps---that one looks like it would probably go dmpl today at PCGS, too

ProofCents · July 10, 2009 12:20PM

Not impossible just expensive

6 down, 91 to go!!

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