T3 Turkey Red Thread

qualitycards

Since I'm in a Turkey Red mode
here is scan I took from an auction house 2 years ago w/ the ultimate display piece.
This display unit would have hung in a general store or a tobacco shop 95 years ago
as a point of sale piece.
Ironically I know the winner of this piece and 1 day I hope to see it in person...jay

Griffins

Jay- it's even more spectacular in person, and it's in very good company.

marz

WOW! that ad display is really nice and worth bucks too!

packman

Thank you for the storage advice. That is an amazing display piece. Thank you for posting the picture. Do you know the dimensions? It must be impressive to so in person.

David

qualitycards

DAVID - I have the write up and its quite lengthy but doesn't give the overall dimensions
just the individual pieces inside. It must be huge as the piece makes the large T3 cabinet card seem tiny.
It sold via Leland in 6/05 for $17, 715.61 w/ the buyers premium it went for $20,815.84

GRIFFINS - 1 day I'll be out on the coast to see you and this display...jay

RayBShotz

The display is awesome!

Dave - Ah yeah; Niles; sorry I sold my other example..

This thread is becoming like the T3 tractor beam
RayB

Griffins

<< <i>GRIFFINS - 1 day I'll be out on the coast to see you and this display...jay >>



just in case of any misunderstanding, I do not own this piece, but am friends with the person that does.

packman

Since this thread is focusing on the T3 set, I changed the title to remove the reference to the Goudey set.

Regarding the amazing display piece, is that a Helmar L1 coupon behind the L1? Does someone have a scan of the Helmar L1 and/or S81 coupon? I noticed that the L1 and S81 sets are listed as 1912. However, weren't they contemporaneous with the T3/T9 set?

David

Griffins

I've got a coupon, but can't find the scan. Jay, do you have the scan of the Orval with the pack and coupon that I shot?
I thought the coupon gave you a choice of T3, L1 or S81. There are also some L1's that are considerably bigger than the standard size ones, but I'm pretty sure they weren't ballplayers. I've only seen Indians on those. I"m guessing they were about 35-40" high?

packman

Anthony

Do the non-sport leathers have the L1 designation? The Indian leather sounds impressive. Do you know if there are non-sport silks?

David

ArnyVee

Boy, these T3s are absolutely beautiful....I can't keep looking at this thread. It's dangerous to my wallet!

By the way, what do low grade commons go for? Stars?

packman

Based on eBay sales, you can pick up a PSA 1 common for around $125 - $200. The HOFs range from approximately $300 to $2,000+ in PSA 1. It really depends on the player. In PSA 2 grade, the HOFs range from approximately $600 - $5,500. The commons in PSA 2 are about double the PSA 1.

I do not follow the PSA 1/2/3 prices too much, so these prices may be a little off. However, they should be close.

David

qualitycards

ANTHONY - you never sent me a photo of the Orval/pack/voucher
you just sent me the card
All the vouchers I have though, only offer Turkey Red choices
not leather or silks...jay

Griffins

<< <i>Do the non-sport leathers have the L1 designation? The Indian leather sounds impressive. Do you know if there are non-sport silks? >>



I"ll check the ACC tonite. I think I've seen NS silks (women with parasols) but may be mistaken- perhaps it's just leathers. I'll check my notes this afternoon.
And I"ll post the coupon image as well.

RayBShotz

Putting aside whether or not the expense is worth it; will PSA grade a T3 that has a small chunk missing out of the side of the border?
Is this a PSA 1; PSA Authentic, or ungradeable?
Any T3 experience with this one?
RayB

Griffins

I think my McGraw has a big chunk missing, I"ll have to check. It's graded "authentic"

packman

I think the upcoming sotheby's auction has a Cobb with a chunk missing that graded PSA 1.

RayBShotz

I guess this addition to my collection officially qualifies me for "another cup of coffee" status. No better place to show one of these off then right here in a T3 Thread. I am really overwhelmed by the spectacular backround colors in this particular image. One of my favorites from that standpoint in the set.



RayB

qualitycards

RAY you are a buyin' machine
Good to have you back in the Turkey Red hunt.
You were building a nice little set 2 years ago.
Hope ya stick with it this round.

Here's one I got from you a year or so ago
don't worry its in good hands ...jay

RayBShotz

Jay,
Of anything I've ever sold I regret that sale the most.
Thankfully it's you; a friend who owns it.

I'm serious; if you ever upgrade that card please consider me first as a buyer.
Thanks.
RayB

MajorDanby

bringing this thread back up. began my 2nd try with this set..this time more earnestly...a few months ago. here is my latest pickup.

anyone else want to share?

qualitycards

Nice to see this T3 thread coming back to the top

Tabe

Danby, that is a gorgeous card. Way nicer than the PSA 1 grade would imply. I'm assuming the pinhole is what got it the 1?

Tabe

magellan

Tabe, the pinholes will knock it down to a PSA 1. That's the great thing about T3s, the picture is utterly unaffected by the border holes, corner damage, etc.

MajorDanby

tabe...yep, two pinholes top and bottom. Pinholes and back damage typically bring down the grade for T3's...but usually keep the overall aesthetic beauty of the card intact.

RipublicaninMass

Just loaded about 40 scans on the registry

Set is title

"Turkey water"

MajorDanby

bringing this back up with my most recent purchase

mafoliq

Wow! What a nice card!

magellan

Very very nice !

RipublicaninMass

I have to send a few out for grading, but currently at 36% completion, no big stars yet though.

RipublicaninMass

2 raw buys headed into grading the end of the month

benderbroeth

i love the cy young....way to go!!! i got my first one comming i am sooo excited!!!

qualitycards

Ted - Great progress!

RipublicaninMass

A couple of new pickups

CW

Wow! The Cobb is KILLERRRRR!!

MajorDanby

congrats on the cobb, ted. toughest card to acquire, in my opinion.

weinhold

That Cobb is a knockout! Congratulations. What color. It must be hard to stop looking at it...if you have yet.

RipublicaninMass

Thanks guys. Danby as far as cost goes it is the toughest, but some of the others you just dont see around. I think I have seen at least one example of every card now, but for a while I hadnt even seen a few, especially the "no namers" of the day. Since people could choose which players they wanted, Cobb would most likely be the first choice.

scooter729

Since I just picked this up, let's give this thread a well-deserved bump....

Minor paper loss on the back keeps it from getting a higher grade.

benderbroeth

nice!

divecchia

Wow, great looking T3...

Donato

Tabe

Wow, that card is gorgeous. Absolutely classic!

Tabe

qualitycards

Fantastic Matty, Congrats!

RipublicaninMass

Scott a stunner! I just sent in 23 to have graded which will bring me up to almost to 80% complete, going to have to sell me soul for the last 20%

scooter729

Hey Ted, good to hear from you - thanks on the Matty! That's awesome that you'll be even at 80% on such a tough set!

RipublicaninMass

I do have a few dups coming back, including 2 Matty's one with a 1-75 back and one with a 1-76 back, I am just learning how tough these 1-75 backs are. My Matty's are PSA 1's at best but I am just trying to get to 100% by all means necessary. Will I see you at the Show in a few weeks?

scooter729

I'm sure I'll see you at the Shriners show - it's still the only show around here I'll go to regularly!

Here's the back of my T3 Matty with the paper loss that knocked it down to SGC 30. Not too bad, I think. And it is a 1-75 back as well!

scooter729

Time for the bi-annual bump of the T3 thread - I'll contribute with my new Big Ed...

qualitycards

Glad to see this thread back on top.
Here's a nice horizontal Hall Of Famer

scooter729

Sweet Evers, Jay - that's in great shape!