Do you care what a dealer's motives are for posting here?

RKKay

Whether it be to better educate all of us and better the hobby; or

just to hang out and BS; or

to promote his business through visibility (by posting as often as possible)?

michael

just to hang out and educate

Barndog

I prefer a dealer to promote his/her business in addition to doing the other things. I like to know who and what is out there that may interest me and the CU forums help me in that endeavor.

BigBuffaloGuy

I'm just here because people here have the same interests as I. Can't talk about numismatics much at the tavern. Plus, there is always something to learn here that helps me make a living.

StrikeOutXXX

I know what I would prefer to read, but I don't really care why they're here as long as they aren't troll-like

Every now and then it does start to feel like "Dealers Universe" around here, but it would be hard to have collectors without dealers, and I think sometimes the posts will swing one way or another given the diverse make-up of the group as a whole.

I think the only self-serving type get weeded out pretty quickly around here.

291fifth

As long as he/she doesn't clutter the forum with posts about AT/NT coins, I don't care.

RKKay

<< <i>As long as he/she doesn't clutter the forum with posts about AT/NT coins, I don't care. >>



I'll modify my posts.

ABC123

Who is the Dealer, and what is he/she saying ?

Bear

If the dealers thread or comment has some interesting thoughts

about coins, coin show , direction of the coin market or historical

reference, then it is a welcome and helpful addition to the Forum flow.

Further, dealer insight and reflections in general are always interesting

and informative.

RKKay

<< <i>Who is the Dealer, and what is he/she saying ? >>



Good question. All I will say is that I don't like it when dealers are here just for exposure.

Bear

Exposure certainly plays some part in a dealer being

on this Forum. However, it also gives the dealer an insight

into collector sentiment. Having dealers comment on the issues

of discussion is a most valuable insight into an important segment of the

market place. As such, unless grossly abused, dealers presence on this Forum

is not only welcome, it is absolutely necessary, for a balanced and rounded view

of the coin collecting hobby and Industry. After all, I know what I know, what I need

to know is what dealers know.

ElKevvo

I sort of like the dealers postings for the most part. Many are very educational and I need all the learnin' I can get!

K

Bear

Coinguy, I will be nice to you untill you send me

the coins you promised me. Then I revert to character

assassination, abusive language and harsh

and viscious criticism. We bears can be very ornery.

Leiana

The dealers I can think of off-hand lend their knowledge and experience to real numismatic discussion. I can always stand to learn a thing or two!

-Amanda

bushmaster8

That all depends on who the dealer is... as favoritism, cronyism, and beastiality are all rampant here!

mozin

I don't care about the dealer's motives for posting here.

What I want, is for all dealers to clearly indicate in every posting that they are indeed coin dealers.

dragon

Only thing I don't like is a few of the wannabe dealers who post pics of their new purchases asking for opinions, which IMO is just a guise for them to advertise their stuff for sale or to promote inquiries about it being for sale.

TheNumish

I come here because I learn a lot and sometimes even laugh at something. If I was looking to increase business my time would be better spent putting stuff on ebay. I just like reading all of the posts.

Gemineye

Yes I do......most of the newbe questions have been overlooked by the Sanctimonious high class dealers .They are some just here to sell their stuff and go on a tirade and brag about how big they are...I'm not a business man but just a collector.I have enjoyed giving advice as well as receiving it also.There is a lot to learn from this hobby and it's history not just the big fat egos............

stman

So do you mean the ones that hardly ever post here, and have 2-3 website links their phone number, their company name etc. in their Sig line.....
the ones that post a stupid "I agree with you" icon? Or the ones that say they aren't here for business, yet almost every time they post they are blowing their horn? Or pimping their auction? Or, never post but once in a while throw a guess the grade thread. Kind of a preview before you see it up on ebay? Or the ones that violate proper etiquette on the BST forum, and it always seems to be dealers that bump their threads multiple times a day, or have a little "chat" session in their BST ad?

Nah, that stuff don't bother me at all. Very obvious.... but don't bother me. Heh Heh

TheNumish

One time Coinguy1 had a thread that he would be happy to answer any question anyone might have.

500Bay

I like their participation in the boards - regardless of motive. They offer good insights generally.
It is up to we collectors to do business with whomever we please, I don't see it as a conflict.

In fact, I'd like to know Derek2100's website address

dorkkarl

<< <i>Do you care what a dealer's motives are for posting here? >>

no

K S

dorkkarl

<< <i>I don't like it when dealers are here just for exposure. >>

i do, it's just that much more fun messin' w/ 'em

K S

Gemineye

<< <i><<most of the newbe questions have been overlooked by the Sanctimonious high class dealers>>

I don't typically see that here. On the contrary, it seems that almost any question gets addressed fairly quickly, by a dealer if not a collector. Please link a few and I'll be happy to answer them if I can. >>


I have stated... some... coinguy1..there are exceptions..Your Posts are very informative and to the point.While I have been here for a while now even the last episode of someone offering some insight to programs was Burned at the stake.

Coxe

<< <i>Only thing I don't like is a few of the wannabe dealers who post pics of their new purchases asking for opinions, which IMO is just a guise for them to advertise their stuff for sale or to promote inquiries about it being for sale. >>



I don't see that too much. However, occasionally someone will ask to grade a Morgan and figure out the VAM obviously (since it happens subsequently) so they can list it as such on eBay to draw more bidders. It is minimal and peripherally harmless. One guy who was quite a bit more blatant and had top pop coins was quickly run out of here. Most of the others are small timers just trying to get a quick and modest score here or there. Nothing terribly prevalent or bothersome to me.

Gemineye

Mark I appreciate your sense of honesty and communication.My goal is to be a collector of what I enjoy and not be a solicitor of any ill will or unjust feelings.The sense from what I have gotten recently from this forum has been one of unpleasentness though.
All I can say is I am a collector just as many are reading these threads.
Please enjoy Mark.........

michael

<<Do you care what a dealer's motives are for posting here?>>

Yes, and ditto for collectors. It affects my reading of their posts, as well as my interactions with them.


Only thing I don't like is a few of the wannabe dealers who post pics of their new purchases asking for opinions, which IMO is just a guise for them to advertise their stuff for sale or to promote inquiries about it being for sale.

Tonedbuff

Do I care about their motives??? NO
I care about their actions.

Frankly, if they are using their knowledge for the bettermint of the hobby, and this gives them a reputation as a solid and honerable person worthy of doing business... well, good for them. Passive marketing is fine with me.

If the posts are self serving and pointed only at making a sale, then yes, I care. Go to the BST forum.

MrEureka

Everyone has his own motives for posting. You'll never figure them all out.

Just be glad if you can figure out your own motives.

Same goes for almost every other activity in life.

Longacre

If a dealer makes a meaningful contribution to the boards, in terms of educating collectors, starting interesting threads, etc., then I think just the basic exposure that he or she gets on these boards ultimately benefits their business. Similarly, there are dealers here who I avoid like the plague because of their posts and nature of their responses.

mhammerman

It's a coin community and if we were all the same it would be quite boring. It adds some credibilityto the fourm to have both dealers and collectors mixing together to talk about coins. I get a little put off by blatant advertising but it seems appropriate to have a little sig line link to the auctions/inventory just in case I might want to look. It is also good for dealers and collectors to compare notes from time to time. The other thing is that many dealers are collectors and even if you are the purest of collectors...some times you might just need a dealer.

Coin ON

kcnovice

Longacre

Following the forums for awhile is very enlightening.

shirohniichan

<< <i>Everyone has his own motives for posting. You'll never figure them all out.

Just be glad if you can figure out your own motives.

Same goes for almost every other activity in life. >>



My motives are to meet hot babes here. It hasn't worked in 5 1/2 years, so I may have to move to the stamp forum.

RKKay

<< <i>My motives are to meet hot babes here. It hasn't worked in 5 1/2 years, so I may have to move to the stamp forum. >>



That should solve it.

RYK

I am glad that some dealers post here. I have learned quite about the hobby, the market, and the biz from them. Some have great numismatic experience and expertise that they liberally share with collectors.

Coxe

<< <i>My motives are to meet hot babes here. It hasn't worked in 5 1/2 years, so I may have to move to the stamp forum. >>



My wife collects classic furbies. A lot of women (some available I suppose) apparently do, 'cuz they're so cute. Some are worth $$$ too .... the furbies that is.

Connecticoin

I agree with Dorkkarl. The pimpers are so transparent, it is fun to mess with them sometimes.

Lakesammman

Lustig is here to pull our collective chains.

RKKay

<< <i>Lustig is here to pull our collective chains. >>


Please, Tim. They closed down the open forum.

RYK

<< I am glad that some dealers post here. I have learned quite about the hobby, the market, and the biz from them. Some have great numismatic experience and expertise that they liberally share with collectors. >>

<<Oh great, yet another Derek thread.>>

Actually, Derek's threads were an eye-opening and educational experience. Especially for the newbies, it is important to learn to recognize a dealer of that mindset and screw them over whenever possible (and at the very least, avoid getting hosed).

dwssws

<< <i>

<< <i>I am glad that some dealers post here. I have learned quite about the hobby, the market, and the biz from them. Some have great numismatic experience and expertise that they liberally share with collectors. >>

Oh great, yet another Derek thread. >>





yes there is someone that we want to hear more from what a piece of work

dizzyfoxx

<Do you care what a dealer's motives are for posting here?>

AU58WALKERS

"Do you care what a dealer's motives are for posting here?"

Not in the least!
I wish more dealers would hang here and share their knowledge.

prenum

Here's a thought ....EVERYONE on this board is a dealer.......and a collector. It's just a matter of degree.

pontiacinf

<< <i>

Earlier this month, I also too my web address off my name to go one step further about making sure people know I am NOT out for biz!
>>



I commend you for that, and I also admit I was wrong to think you were here just to advertise and stir the pot

pharmer

<< <i>Here's a thought ....EVERYONE on this board is a dealer.......and a collector. It's just a matter of degree. >>




Not so much a thought, as a total lack of thought.

Posting to this board makes everyone here a dealer?

In the same way that writing a letter to the editor makes one a newspaper reporter?

Makes absolutely no sense. You come off as defensive. Or maybe you think this is a dealer site?

And I don't give a crap why a dealer posts here.

pharmer

Back off, he can take care of himself, I'm sure.

coinguy1

Coinguy1/Mark, please also feel free to ignore Pharmer's rudeness.

Bear

Pharmer, you been taking your meds?

pharmer

<< <i>

<< <i>Here's a thought ....EVERYONE on this board is a dealer.......and a collector. It's just a matter of degree. >>




Not so much a thought, as a total lack of thought.

Posting to this board makes everyone here a dealer?

In the same way that writing a letter to the editor makes one a newspaper reporter?

Makes absolutely no sense. You come off as defensive. Or maybe you think this is a dealer site?

And I don't give a crap why a dealer posts here. >>



Prenum, what's your response to my saying your statement is absurd? You don't need others to do your talking, do you?