Two Buffalo nickels--thoughts?
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I have two Buffalo nickels to show, and seek your thoughts on. First, what happened to the date on the 1925-S? Die erosion? It has no wear at all and really is terrific save for that little disaster.
As for this 1928-S, I initially was alarmed by its gleaming appearance. But Lange writes, "The 1928-S nickel has good to excellent luster, though it is rarely of the frostiness associated with most other issues, particularly the P-mint coins. More commonly seen for this date is the bright, liquid appearance associated with polished planchets that have not been fully compressed by the dies..."
As for this 1928-S, I initially was alarmed by its gleaming appearance. But Lange writes, "The 1928-S nickel has good to excellent luster, though it is rarely of the frostiness associated with most other issues, particularly the P-mint coins. More commonly seen for this date is the bright, liquid appearance associated with polished planchets that have not been fully compressed by the dies..."
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Just one thought on the 28s. It may be useful to take a really close look along the devices just to ensure that there are no signs of polishing or whizzing. Since the coin often had high luster, a coin doc could have flown under the radar on a whiz on that one. Look for any tiny bits of build up near the letters or devices. I doubt it, but it bears looking into.
The 28S is a nice coin, I don't see any evidence of whizzing, but again, poor monitor.
Nice buffs, as always!
I will come back to this thread later and take a stab at grading them.
-Amanda
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filled die/grease strike through on the 25-S date
MS 62 on first, 64/65 on Second. Great coins!! wouldn't mind to own them at all.
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Typical 28-S Buffalos do indeed seem to come with proof like surfaces. I'd grade your coin 63/64.
Tell us what PCGS thinks when you submit them.
Just my opinion, which I know many, maybe most, will strongly disagree with.
<< <i>It is NOT a 25-S, merely a 25-P. I'm very sorry. >>
That explains it. I'd still grade it 62.
<< <i> The 25-S is a coin that should probably be body-bagged. The softly struck date, regardless of the reason, is a major negative. Putting that coin in a MS62 or 63 slab will hurt the reputation of the grading service that does so. >>
Sorry, but I can't possibly agree with this opinion. If the coin is authentic, appears original, and can be identified as to date and mint, PCGS has an obligation to slab it. They don't have to grade it MS however.
Also, if this coin were a 25-S, such a poor strike would not be out of the ordinary. 1925-S Buffalos frequently have poor detail in the date and mint mark.
<< <i>wait till tonight youll see a couple of real nice 25s from caitlen. i just went for a ms 65 25s in long beach and they 64-d it again ,maybe caitlen can post an image of my coin for me. >>
Do you mean "25s" or "25-s's?"
<< <i>nice die clash on the 25-S! >>
Could someone point this out to me? I can't see evidence of a die clash.
Nice looking coins.
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<< <i>Could someone point this out to me? I can't see evidence of a die clash. >>
Ditto! There does not appear to be any clash on either coin.
On the 1928-S this seems to be a characteristic of many of the "S" Mint coins for certain dates (1913 both varieties; 1914; 1915; 1916; 1927; 1928) that sometimes will show semi-prooflike lustre. Why this is so I haven't a clue.
The 25 I would call 62, it's a bit baggy.
The 28S I would say is a 65. It's really very clean, and has great lustre.
-Amanda
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The 28S I would say is a 65. It's really very clean, and has great lustre.
-Amanda >>
Lol, if you're right and it's a $4,000 coin, lunch is on me.
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The 28S I would say is a 65. It's really very clean, and has great lustre.
-Amanda >>
Lol, if you're right and it's a $4,000 coin, lunch is on me. >>
$4,000!!
I would hope I was right, but then I have not been at this for very long.
-Amanda
I'm a YN working on a type set!
My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!
Proud member of the CUFYNA
And for 28-Ss, they are often found with proof-like fields. I have a 14-S with the same strike.
1925...62
1928-S...64
rec78,
He admitted to being in error. It's actually a 25-P.
The 28-S is quite typical for a well struck piece from strongly fatigued dies. The strong fatigue is shown in the extraordinary flow shown well in the tip of the long feather, the Indian's neck and lower braid, and on the reverse in the bison's hair (particularly the head), along the rim, and in the overall mushiness of the letters and other devices. It's an odd thing to see a strong strike that shows little detail, but there is no evidence of "raw planchet" surfaces on this coin. Kind of remarkable.
The 25 strikes me as an MS62 and the 28 an MS63/64. Nice and interesting coins.
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