The latest stat line of the night for the Red Sox

Barndog

6-1 lead entering the ninth, win 6-5. Anyone think Mike Timlin will be back in Boston next year? In MLB?

Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
M Timlin 0.2 6 4 4 0 1 1 29-21 4.55

He faced 8 batters.

bri2327

I "almost" feel bad for the Sox at this point.

Dallas88

He'll be 3rd in our rotation next year.

Barndog

I like 'em and I don't feel bad for them. The team that wins is usually the better team. They aren't. Timlin can start hunting season early, it would be better for his teammates.

softparade

<< <i>I "almost" feel bad for the Sox at this point. >>



Not me ..... no way and no friggen how. Bury them. They can't be buried deep enough for me

bri2327

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<< <i>I "almost" feel bad for the Sox at this point. >>



Not me ..... no way and no friggen how. Bury them. They can't be buried deep enough for me >>



key word was ALMOST !

softparade

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key word was ALMOST ! >>



whew! thought I was losing you

Connecticoin

<< <i>6-1 lead entering the ninth, win 6-5. Anyone think Mike Timlin will be back in Boston next year? In MLB?

Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
M Timlin 0.2 6 4 4 0 1 1 29-21 4.55

He faced 8 batters. >>



Wow, his ERA went up 0.5 in one night, pretty remarkable this late in the season. Obviously, he's spent for this year.

I think his ERA was under 2 up until the end of July.

Barndog

Uncanny how the entire team started to simultaneously implode. Planets aligned for this one. Select heads should prepare to roll if the organization wishes to have a chance to win in the near future.

BillJones

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<< <i>I "almost" feel bad for the Sox at this point. >>



Not me ..... no way and no friggen how. Bury them. They can't be buried deep enough for me >>



Yankee fans make me sick.

And you team and your ower have pretty well ruined baseball for me.

Thank goodness the football season as started and baseball can go to the back of the sports pages where it belongs.

bri2327

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<< <i>I "almost" feel bad for the Sox at this point. >>



Not me ..... no way and no friggen how. Bury them. They can't be buried deep enough for me >>



Yankee fans make me sick.

And you team and your ower have pretty well ruined baseball for me.

Thank goodness the football season as started and baseball can go to the back of the sports pages where it belongs. >>



What a whining crybaby.

Ohh, great job on the spelling too

BillJones

<< <i>What a whining crybaby. >>



You just proved my point. You enjoy kicking people when they down, and that's why you stink. If the Yankees had a budget like the Royals, you would be just like them - going nowhere season after season after season.

80% of what makes the Yankees what they are is money. The rest is management. If you were stting down here in Tampa Bay looking at this minor league mess, you'd be sick of baseball too.

bri2327

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You just proved my point. You enjoy kicking people when they down, and that's why you stink. If the Yankees had a budget like the Royals, you would be just like them - going nowhere season after season after season.

80% of what makes the Yankees what they are is money. The rest is management. If you were stting down here in Tampa Bay looking at this minor league mess, you'd be sick of baseball too. >>



If you had any reading comprehension you would have noticed how I said I almost felt bad for the Sox first off. I wasnt kicking anyone. Secondly, if you posted in this forum more than once a year you would know that a few of us Yankee fans have an ongoing and friendly little thing going with some of the Sox fans. Anything that is said at this point is taken in good fun by all of us.

And I have seen the mess in Tampa bay, and guess what, too bad. They are a team run by fools first off. Secondly, maybe if some of the supposed fans got off their a$$es and went to the games they could afford to put more back into the team.


I can see already that the open forum closing down is going to be a nightmare....lots of confused, lost souls with alot more time on their hands now....prepapre for the invasion !

Barndog

baseball success is all about reaping what you sow.

As is baseball failure.

BillJones

<< <i>baseball success is all about reaping what you sow.

As is baseball failure. >>



And the Yankees have more money to buy seeds than anyone else in sports. Ever year they buy up the cream of the free agent market. Every year they get play "rent a player" when teams that are out of contention drop high salary stars. Every year they get sweetheart deals in these crumby "player to be named later" trades. In other words the Yankees get an impact player for nothing because as far as the Yankees are concerned, money means nothing because they have so much of it. The Yankees can afford to buy a "bad seed" like Kevin Brown because of their wealth. For most other teams such a free agent deal would be a disaster, not for the Yankees. They make it up with their huge TV contracts.

Football is more exciting and interesting every year because (1) the sport by its nature grinds players up and stars have shorter careers and (2) the salary cap forces GMs to be more creative. For Yankees, they take just a little management skill and car loads of money, and they have got the Eastern Division of the American League bought and paid for, and that's a bore for everyone except Yankee fans.

ctsoxfan

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<< <i>baseball success is all about reaping what you sow.

As is baseball failure. >>



And the Yankees have more money to buy seeds than anyone else in sports. Ever year they buy up the cream of the free agent market. Every year they get play "rent a player" when teams that are out of contention drop high salary stars. Every year they get sweetheart deals in these crumby "player to be named later" trades. In other words the Yankees get an impact player for nothing because as far as the Yankees are concerned, money means nothing because they have so much of it. The Yankees can afford to buy a "bad seed" like Kevin Brown because of their wealth. For most other teams such a free agent deal would be a disaster, not for the Yankees. They make it up with their huge TV contracts.

Football is more exciting and interesting every year because (1) the sport by its nature grinds players up and stars have shorter careers and (2) the salary cap forces GMs to be more creative. For Yankees, they take just a little management skill and car loads of money, and they have got the Eastern Division of the American League bought and paid for, and that's a bore for everyone except Yankee fans. >>




Indeed. But, your logic will fall on deaf ears here, unfortunately. We have been trying to tell the Yankee fans here this for some time now, and they always get defensive about the payroll (even to go so far as to say it's not a factor! I'm not kidding!). They always come up with excuses, and run in the other direction from facts. And, if you think this disparity is tremendous now, just wait until the new stadium opens in 2009 - it's only going to get worse. Maybe baseball will wake up and see how it's dying from within, as football cements it's place as the number one spectator sport in this country even further, but I don't hold out any hope. They couldn't even find a way to deal with Barry Bonds, a joke if there ever was one.

WinPitcher

A few of you guys are right. why bother being baseball fans? if I were you i'd leave the sport and focus all my attention on football.


the fact that this has been going on since 1920 has gone over your heads.


btw at least 10 teams have payrolls over 100 million.


btw the team with the lowest payroll has a very good chance of winning it all.


Steve

BillJones

<< <i>A few of you guys are right. why bother being baseball fans? if I were you i'd leave the sport and focus all my attention on football.


the fact that this has been going on since 1920 has gone over your heads.


btw at least 10 teams have payrolls over 100 million.


btw the team with the lowest payroll has a very good chance of winning it all.


Steve >>



Yea, and back in the 1920s and 1930s teams like the St. Louis Browns, Boston Red Sox and Philadelphia Phillies were in the cellar year after year with no hope of ever getting any better. Baseball has always had its permanent poverty row. The Washington Senators were in the same boat, except that they did have a flash of light in the mid 1920s. If they got any decent players, most of the time the owners sold them the rich teams for the money.

Baseball has been a pretty sad business for fans from cities, like Chicago, for many years. It's a sad commentary when neither of the Chicago teams had won a World Series in over 80 years before the White Sox did it last year.

I have loved reading baseball stats for years, and have read a number of books on the game. The trouble is I'm just tied of the modern game, which with teams like the Yankees and players like Barry Bonds, has gone to hell IMO.

ToppsCo1lector

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You just proved my point. You enjoy kicking people when they down, and that's why you stink. If the Yankees had a budget like the Royals, you would be just like them - going nowhere season after season after season.

80% of what makes the Yankees what they are is money. The rest is management. If you were stting down here in Tampa Bay looking at this minor league mess, you'd be sick of baseball too. >>



That's why you draft good people/players. Not headcases(IE: Joe Hamilton, Delmon Young, etc.). Lets forget who they drafted. Or that EVERY SINGLE OWNER IN THE LEAGUE IS WEALTHY. Just because the Royals choose to pocket MLB checks instead of using the money to reinvest in their "product" doesn't make them "whaowly lil ole po' owners", it makes them cheap and greedy all at the same time.