If the luster really looks like it does in the photo, it can't be any more than MS-62. The coin looks really dull, and that negates the clean surfaces.
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<< <i>If the luster really looks like it does in the photo, it can't be any more than MS-62. The coin looks really dull, and that negates the clean surfaces. >>
The scan makes it look dipped out.
There is likely some decent luster on this coin -- it has the "look" of a crappy scan of a coin with decent luster.
MS66. The 1902 is a date that is apparently more liberally graded.
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Yes, the luster is actually quite nice and the scan is crap. There is some mottled toning possibly developing due to moisture spotting in the past. Strike weakness is evident as you can see on a few of the stars and the date. The central strike is not bad at all for the date. The eagle's feathers are not showing as well as they do in hand but you can see the four tiny ticks surprisingly.
I think 65, too nice for 64, but not the cheek or strike of a 66. If you tell me 65 is wrong I'd say NGC gave it a 66, in which case I'd also say NGC came in a point too high.
OK. It came in the mail today from Teletrade. It was the one I gambled "might be" a VAM-4. Well, it wasn't. But the surfaces are quite clean and figured I would throw it up to see if people thought it might make 66 on a regrade at NGC. Looks like 65 will probably be best. Might return it and pay the small fee for doing so. I already have a PCGS 66PL in my set. Unless I find it is an interesting VAM, that may be the way to go. It is actually pretty nice to me for a 65 of the date. Thanks, everyone, for their critiques! (Still also considering taking it to NGC at Long Beach if I have some other regrades. Never did try to get upgrades before actually.)
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<< <i>If the luster really looks like it does in the photo, it can't be any more than MS-62. The coin looks really dull, and that negates the clean surfaces. >>
The scan makes it look dipped out.
There is likely some decent luster on this coin -- it has the "look" of a crappy scan of a coin with decent luster.
With luster not showing, MS65
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I'll edit this post if I have to when I get on a real monitor, but it looks 64 to me.
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Too bad that it wasn't a vam of some type.
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If the coin is as clean of marks as the scan indicates, it would be nice to see a digital camera photo of it!!