I'll bet that you get FULL service from your $500/hr whore >>
Investment bankers who sell cards are not practicing their trade when dabbling in the hobby.
Those of us who have experience selling know that your diatribe about costs, gas, blah, blah is weak. Postage is printed on line, mailers are not that expensive, the USPS provides many supplies for free. Up to three cards can be sent USPS First Class for less than $5.
Save the scam for someone who doesn't know better. That makes you a fraud.
I think all of us here would advise that you reevaluate your priorities.
FYI - don't need whores bud. I found a wonderful wife - she provides full service, as do I and we call it even.
Commons: A couple points..... 1)I make a good salary myself (no where near $500 per hour though, and I don't think you do either), and make sure that I get a minimum amount of money per item I sell on ebay. However, I have enough common sense to understand that I can't expect to charge buyers the same amount of money that I would charge for my professional service in my real job.
***2)What would happen if one of you buyers of a 1 cent auction wanted to pick up his item instead of having it shipped? It should be fine and dandy with you as you recieved the amount of money you wanted for your item (1 cent) and it saves you the time and mileage that you are charging for.
3)Why not start you auction with the first bid equaling $29.99 and make shipping 1 cents? You're going to get the same amount of money minus the fees......or is it the fees you are trying to avoid in the first place? Rich
Commons you are a big hypocrite, you say in an earlier post that you admire the way Steve Hart does business. Last time I checked his S/H was reasonable, so why not learn from his practices since you admire him so much.
Yes Ebay does allow a reasonable S/H, but what is reasonable and what is considered handling by Ebay?? You are crossing that line and are STUPID to think you are not. I am still trying to figure out how you make 500/hour with your scam. I call BS!!!
You even admit Ebay has pulled your auctions, but you are still stupid enough to think you can get away with it. All your little tyrade has done is made more of us search Ebay reporting scam auctions like yours hoping to get them pulled and get you suspended, which is useless because I call BS on you even being an Ebay seller. I think your account was suspended for circumvention of Ebay fees.
Again I will ask.. Why are you still here if we are so WEAK as you say?? It is obvious you are WEAK since you like hanging around so many weak people.
We could buy one of these auctions for $.01 and pay the $999 for shipping, then file a pay pal claim for a refund on the shipping charge overage. In the end, the seller couldn't prove his shipping and handling fees to pay pal, and pay pal would be forced to pay out the claim and collect from the seller.
-Scott
My sets: 1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
In the end, the seller couldn't prove his shipping and handling fees to pay pal, and pay pal would be forced to pay out the claim and collect from the seller.
Why would the seller have to prove that to Paypal in a INR dispute all the seller has to prove the item was delivered in this case it would be by signature confirmation.
for criminal acts and violence on the stage for being a brat refusing to act your age for all the decent citizens you've enraged you can go to Hell for gambling and drinking alcohol constantly for making us doubt our parents authority for choosing to be a living obscenity you can go to Hell you're something that never should have happened you even make your Grandma sick you'd poison a blind man's dog and steal his cane you'd gift wrap a leper and mail him to your Aunt Jane you'd even force feed a diabetic a candy cane you can go to Hell you're something that never should have happened you even make your Grandma sick for criminal acts and violence on the stage fo being a brat refusing to act your age for all the decent citizens you've enraged you can go to Hell
It really just comes down to me be willing to do something about ebays constant fee increases and you guys accepting them.
And your point that my practices make ebay fees go up for everyone is fundamentally flawed because
IF I DIDN'T SELL THE WAY I DID I WOULDN'T SELL ON EBAY AT ALL.
SINCE EBAY DOES NOT LOSE MONEY WHEN I CHARGE FOR MY TIME IN S/H THEY DONT RAISE FEES BECAUSE OF ME.......
Your argument is just as bad as the one that used to say that people who used illegal cable descramblers made rates go up for paying customers. The crux of this argument is based on the assumption that if the people didn't have the illegal box they would order (and pay for) all the services that they are currently stealing. It is just flat out wrong. If the people din't have the box they would just have regualr old basic (simply because this is all that most of them could afford)
If you throw out the assumption that all of the auctions you get canceled will be relisted with actual shipping you realize you are wasting your time (and actually costing ebay money by having to spend man hours reviewing you constant complaints).
<<Your argument is just as bad as the one that used to say that people who used illegal cable descramblers made rates go up for paying customers. The crux of this argument is based on the assumption that if the people didn't have the illegal box they would order (and pay for) all the services that they are currently stealing. It is just flat out wrong. If the people din't have the box they would just have regualr old basic (simply because this is all that most of them could afford)>>
. . . and on that note, I would say to anyone who's id isn't "commons", it's time to put it to rest. At first, I thought maybe commons had no morals. Sadly, it appears he just doesn't have a clue. He probably thinks if the whole country cheated on their tax returns, then taxes wouldn't go up. I'm ready for this one to be done. Let's spend our time on something more important, like trying to explain how hand-cut Hostess panels are *slightly* different than sheet cut OPC Gretzky rookies.
He acts like he sells on Ebay this way all the time, but I did a search of ALL the 1 cent Buy It now listings on Ebay and did not find one seller who was scamming on S/H, found some who were high but not like commons claims.
I am still trying to figure out how he does not see that as stealing?? He used a cable TV analogy stating that if peopel could not get it for free they would not get it at all. How is that not stealing?? While it maybe true that they would never get the service otherwise. They ARE getting the service for free and in a means that is unauthorized. Last time I checked that is stealing.
He also thinks Ebay actually checks listings that are reported. I seriously doubt they do check all of them. Ebay has always had a shoot first ask questions later policy. I have heard too many complaints of listings wrongfully pulled and when they appeal it Ebay admits they messed up. Depending on the violation they may never even look at an auction. Report someone for having the Paypal logos and saying they do not take Paypal the auction will be pulled in most cases in less than 10 minutes no matter when it is reported.
My guess is he was NARU'ed by Ebay for his practices and is now pissed about it and is trying to convince others it should be alright to do this.
I agree with Detroit. This clown has no clue about how businesses operate he hs said stuff that proves that numerous times. He would rather screw Ebay and his customers than be an honest seller.
He says we are WEAK, but yet stays here so that means he is just as weak. I second the just ignore him stance he will eventualy go away.
<< <i>Why would the seller have to prove that to Paypal in a INR dispute all the seller has to prove the item was delivered in this case it would be by signature confirmation. >>
In this case, I think if you filed a claim saying that you didn't get $999 worth of shipping and handling (i.e the item getting a first class passenger airline ticket :-) ), I think you may have case. I am pretty sure my credit card company would honor the claim, even if pay pal didn't.
My sets: 1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
In this case, I think if you filed a claim saying that you didn't get $999 worth of shipping and handling (i.e the item getting a first class passenger airline ticket :-) ), I think you may have case. I am pretty sure my credit card company would honor the claim, even if pay pal didn't.
The CC company may or may not since all the CC company sees is the whole payment I doubt they would, but Paypal does have a tendency to roll over for CC companies. All Paypal wants to see is if the item was delivered or not on an INR claim.
High S/H has been a part of mail order long before Ebay if anything Ebay has lowered what buyers expect to pay for shipping and the speed at which they get the item. Remember before Ebay there was usually a 6 to 8 week delay in getting your item.
I never said using a cable descrambler was not stealing.
I simply stated that use of cable descramblers does NOT make paying customers rates go up.
As for my S/H/TIME charges they are not stealing (Ebay allows reasonable handling fees to be included in S/H) If you would like to discuss what is reasonable go ahead and start another topic.....
The charge listed for flat rate shipping includes a charge for MY TIME ..... simple as that .... if you don't wanna pay me for time DON'T BID ON MY AUCTION......
There will be plenty of other folks who don't mind paying me for my time and getting great deals.
As for finding my current auctions... you won't .... I don't have any items currently listed, but when I do list an item I'll be sure to post a link so you can buy if you want (and pay me for my time)
2. I would allow pickup, and the shipping portion of the shipping/handling would be waived ...... but the handling (my time) portion of the s/h would still apply
As for starting at .01 w/29.99 s/h that is a business/marketing decision
.01 w/29.99 s/h will produce more sales and get more looks than 29.99 with .01 s/h
If you don't think so try it out as a test and you will see how wrong you are
Ebay offers a service........ if you like Ebay's service they deserved to be paid fairly if u don't like Ebay go sell elsewhere !!!!! what part don't u understand ??
I guarantee an 29.99 item with Free Shipping and handling would sell alot faster than an item that 1 penny with a 29.99 S/H and I can post results that do reflect this.
Really what is the difference in 3% and 1.9%?? That is 1.1 cents per dollar. Give me a break. Free Shipping
Do I really need to show more?? The one with Free Shipping sold for the highest amount and the one that had the highest shipping total sold for th least. Even after Paypal and Ebay fees that last seller came out on bottom.
and his flat rate charges are NOT actual shipping costs ......
Most sellers do tack on a couple of dollars for their packing expenses and a small amount for fees associated with Selling, but that can be done. To put your time and stuff in there is freaking stupid that should be built into your opening price not S/H.
Yes Ebat allows a REASONABLE S/H. They have also started cracking down on this I have heard of numerous DVD auctions getting pulled for having S/H over 4.00. Look for Ebay to move to other areas soon. Ebay and the buyers have the final say of what is reasonable and what is not. If they decide 2.50 S/H is too much for shipping a sportscard that is their business and they can start pulling those listings if they want.
You are using their bandwidth for your auctions and since you are not paying the proper charges for it then you are doing nothing more than STEALING from Ebay. That means you are nothing more than a common thief.
Ya know, I always prefer to pay more to have a doctoral level professional who makes $300 an hour package my items than some blue-collar guy who makes less than $50 per hour. I mean, come on. That's some quality service you're buying there!!!!
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<< <i>Investment bankers make $500/hr too .....
I'll bet that you get FULL service from your $500/hr whore >>
Investment bankers who sell cards are not practicing their trade when dabbling in the hobby.
Those of us who have experience selling know that your diatribe about costs, gas, blah, blah is weak. Postage is printed on line, mailers are not that expensive, the USPS provides many supplies for free. Up to three cards can be sent USPS First Class for less than $5.
Save the scam for someone who doesn't know better. That makes you a fraud.
I think all of us here would advise that you reevaluate your priorities.
FYI - don't need whores bud. I found a wonderful wife - she provides full service, as do I and we call it even.
A couple points.....
1)I make a good salary myself (no where near $500 per hour though, and I don't think you do either), and make sure that I get a minimum amount of money per item I sell on ebay. However, I have enough common sense to understand that I can't expect to charge buyers the same amount of money that I would charge for my professional service in my real job.
***2)What would happen if one of you buyers of a 1 cent auction wanted to pick up his item instead of having it shipped? It should be fine and dandy with you as you recieved the amount of money you wanted for your item (1 cent) and it saves you the time and mileage that you are charging for.
3)Why not start you auction with the first bid equaling $29.99 and make shipping 1 cents? You're going to get the same amount of money minus the fees......or is it the fees you are trying to avoid in the first place?
Rich
Yes Ebay does allow a reasonable S/H, but what is reasonable and what is considered handling by Ebay?? You are crossing that line and are STUPID to think you are not. I am still trying to figure out how you make 500/hour with your scam. I call BS!!!
You even admit Ebay has pulled your auctions, but you are still stupid enough to think you can get away with it. All your little tyrade has done is made more of us search Ebay reporting scam auctions like yours hoping to get them pulled and get you suspended, which is useless because I call BS on you even being an Ebay seller. I think your account was suspended for circumvention of Ebay fees.
Again I will ask.. Why are you still here if we are so WEAK as you say?? It is obvious you are WEAK since you like hanging around so many weak people.
Excellent point, here is a follow on idea -
We could buy one of these auctions for $.01 and pay the $999 for shipping, then file a pay pal claim for a refund on the shipping charge overage. In the end, the seller couldn't prove his shipping and handling fees to pay pal, and pay pal would be forced to pay out the claim and collect from the seller.
-Scott
1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
Why would the seller have to prove that to Paypal in a INR dispute all the seller has to prove the item was delivered in this case it would be by signature confirmation.
for being a brat
refusing to act your age
for all the decent citizens you've enraged
you can go to Hell
for gambling and drinking alcohol constantly
for making us doubt our parents authority
for choosing to be a living obscenity
you can go to Hell
you're something that never should have happened
you even make your Grandma sick
you'd poison a blind man's dog and steal his cane
you'd gift wrap a leper
and mail him to your Aunt Jane
you'd even force feed a diabetic a candy cane
you can go to Hell
you're something that never should have happened
you even make your Grandma sick
for criminal acts and violence on the stage
fo being a brat
refusing to act your age
for all the decent citizens you've enraged
you can go to Hell
Alice Cooper..............yeah!
1957 Topps PSA
1961 Fleer SGC
It really just comes down to me be willing to do something about ebays constant fee increases and you guys accepting them.
And your point that my practices make ebay fees go up for everyone is fundamentally flawed because
IF I DIDN'T SELL THE WAY I DID I WOULDN'T SELL ON EBAY AT ALL.
SINCE EBAY DOES NOT LOSE MONEY WHEN I CHARGE FOR MY TIME IN S/H THEY DONT RAISE FEES BECAUSE OF ME.......
Your argument is just as bad as the one that used to say that people who used illegal cable descramblers made rates go up for paying customers. The crux of this argument is based on the assumption that if the people didn't have the illegal box they would order (and pay for) all the services that they are currently stealing. It is just flat out wrong. If the people din't have the box they would just have regualr old basic (simply because this is all that most of them could afford)
If you throw out the assumption that all of the auctions you get canceled will be relisted with actual shipping you realize you are wasting your time (and actually costing ebay money by having to spend man hours reviewing you constant complaints).
I'm glad that you found someone who makes you happy
I'll assume that is your wife in the picture..... You are a lucky guy... Congrats
You didn't answer my questions in point 2 and 3 on the last page.
Please try again!
Rich
. . . and on that note, I would say to anyone who's id isn't "commons", it's time to put it to rest. At first, I thought maybe commons had no morals. Sadly, it appears he just doesn't have a clue. He probably thinks if the whole country cheated on their tax returns, then taxes wouldn't go up. I'm ready for this one to be done. Let's spend our time on something more important, like trying to explain how hand-cut Hostess panels are *slightly* different than sheet cut OPC Gretzky rookies.
He acts like he sells on Ebay this way all the time, but I did a search of ALL the 1 cent Buy It now listings on Ebay and did not find one seller who was scamming on S/H, found some who were high but not like commons claims.
I am still trying to figure out how he does not see that as stealing?? He used a cable TV analogy stating that if peopel could not get it for free they would not get it at all. How is that not stealing?? While it maybe true that they would never get the service otherwise. They ARE getting the service for free and in a means that is unauthorized. Last time I checked that is stealing.
He also thinks Ebay actually checks listings that are reported. I seriously doubt they do check all of them. Ebay has always had a shoot first ask questions later policy. I have heard too many complaints of listings wrongfully pulled and when they appeal it Ebay admits they messed up. Depending on the violation they may never even look at an auction. Report someone for having the Paypal logos and saying they do not take Paypal the auction will be pulled in most cases in less than 10 minutes no matter when it is reported.
My guess is he was NARU'ed by Ebay for his practices and is now pissed about it and is trying to convince others it should be alright to do this.
I agree with Detroit. This clown has no clue about how businesses operate he hs said stuff that proves that numerous times. He would rather screw Ebay and his customers than be an honest seller.
He says we are WEAK, but yet stays here so that means he is just as weak. I second the just ignore him stance he will eventualy go away.
<< <i>Why would the seller have to prove that to Paypal in a INR dispute all the seller has to prove the item was delivered in this case it would be by signature confirmation. >>
In this case, I think if you filed a claim saying that you didn't get $999 worth of shipping and handling (i.e the item getting a first class passenger airline ticket :-) ), I think you may have case. I am pretty sure my credit card company would honor the claim, even if pay pal didn't.
1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
The CC company may or may not since all the CC company sees is the whole payment I doubt they would, but Paypal does have a tendency to roll over for CC companies. All Paypal wants to see is if the item was delivered or not on an INR claim.
High S/H has been a part of mail order long before Ebay if anything Ebay has lowered what buyers expect to pay for shipping and the speed at which they get the item. Remember before Ebay there was usually a 6 to 8 week delay in getting your item.
I never said using a cable descrambler was not stealing.
I simply stated that use of cable descramblers does NOT make paying customers rates go up.
As for my S/H/TIME charges they are not stealing (Ebay allows reasonable handling fees to be included in S/H)
If you would like to discuss what is reasonable go ahead and start another topic.....
The charge listed for flat rate shipping includes a charge for MY TIME ..... simple as that .... if you don't wanna pay me for time DON'T BID ON MY AUCTION......
There will be plenty of other folks who don't mind paying me for my time and getting great deals.
As for finding my current auctions... you won't .... I don't have any items currently listed, but when I do list an item I'll be sure to post a link so you can buy if you want (and pay me for my time)
but the handling (my time) portion of the s/h would still apply
As for starting at .01 w/29.99 s/h that is a business/marketing decision
.01 w/29.99 s/h will produce more sales and get more looks than 29.99 with .01 s/h
If you don't think so try it out as a test and you will see how wrong you are
BS
Steve
But he has flat rate shipping charges just like I do ..... and his flat rate charges are NOT actual shipping costs ......
They are flat rate whether mailed next door or to california.....
if you like Ebay's service they deserved to be paid fairly
if u don't like Ebay go sell elsewhere !!!!!
what part don't u understand ??
Really what is the difference in 3% and 1.9%?? That is 1.1 cents per dollar. Give me a break. Free Shipping
That comes to 93.33 a box.
10.99 S/H
86 per box
RC_W0QQitemZ180013432644QQihZ008QQcategoryZ652QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">92.00 Per box
76 per box counting 15.95 S/H
Do I really need to show more?? The one with Free Shipping sold for the highest amount and the one that had the highest shipping total sold for th least. Even after Paypal and Ebay fees that last seller came out on bottom.
Most sellers do tack on a couple of dollars for their packing expenses and a small amount for fees associated with Selling, but that can be done. To put your time and stuff in there is freaking stupid that should be built into your opening price not S/H.
Yes Ebat allows a REASONABLE S/H. They have also started cracking down on this I have heard of numerous DVD auctions getting pulled for having S/H over 4.00. Look for Ebay to move to other areas soon. Ebay and the buyers have the final say of what is reasonable and what is not. If they decide 2.50 S/H is too much for shipping a sportscard that is their business and they can start pulling those listings if they want.
You are using their bandwidth for your auctions and since you are not paying the proper charges for it then you are doing nothing more than STEALING from Ebay. That means you are nothing more than a common thief.
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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What is a resonable s/h for my 3 box lot of 90 UD wax
Assume I ship it in a flat rate box with deliv conf ($8.60 I think)
Thanks
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I figured that you may not be able to post an example with junk wax.
Perhaps the fact that we serve different markets partially explains why different strategies work better for each of us.
Best of luck using the free shipping promotion.
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