How I save my cutomers money
commons
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Lets say I have a case of 1987 FL Wax (20 box)
It has been selling for approx $1000 + $30 Shipping over the past 30 days.
I put it up for BUY IT NOW .01 with $999.99 shipping.
My customers bottom line is $1000 delivered.
My bottom line is
Increased over $30 by fees saved
So i come out ahead, my customer comes ahead and ebay frowns (but still makes 3% through paypal).
Ebay also knows that if they start charging fees for Total value if transaction (shipping included) they will hurt themselves big time.
If they were gonna do it they would have done it already.
It has been selling for approx $1000 + $30 Shipping over the past 30 days.
I put it up for BUY IT NOW .01 with $999.99 shipping.
My customers bottom line is $1000 delivered.
My bottom line is
Increased over $30 by fees saved
So i come out ahead, my customer comes ahead and ebay frowns (but still makes 3% through paypal).
Ebay also knows that if they start charging fees for Total value if transaction (shipping included) they will hurt themselves big time.
If they were gonna do it they would have done it already.
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Shane
Sorry, but I stay away from such "slimey" deals...
edited to add: WTF is a cutomer?
If they pay with Paypal and complain right they can get all their money back which would be fitting scammer scamming a scammer
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Examples of violating listings:
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (2001, DVD)
BIN: US $1
Shipping: US $11 First Class USPS
Explanation: The actual cost to ship this DVD would be less than $3 using First Class Mail stated in the listing. This seller is charging all costs for this item in the shipping price thus hiding the “true” cost for this item from buyers.
New Pink Motorola L6 L 6 Unlocked Slvr GSM World Phone
BIN: US $98.95
Shipping: US $64.84 UPS 2nd day air
Explanation: The seller has clearly stated that UPS 2nd Day Air will be used to ship this item, thus overall shipping charges are inflated.
Sony 2 GB Memory Stick Pro Card
BIN: US $37.35
Shipping: US $26.99 Standard Shipping Service
Explanation: The seller states that the item will be shipped “Standard Shipping Service” and not an Overnight service. Given the small size/weight of this item, overall shipping charges are inflated.
Examples of Listings in Compliance:
NEW SONY ERICSSON T237 GSM UNLOCKED COLOR PHONE * FEDEX
BIN: US $36.95
Shipping: US $18.95 Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service
Explanation: The seller is shipping this item via Fed Ex and states the actual flat rate cost in the listing.
Creative Labs Zen Micro Photo 8GB Pink MP3 Player
BIN: US $195
Shipping US $11.99 UPS ground
Explanation: The seller is sending the item via UPS ground and is charging actual shipping prices plus a reasonable fee.
SOLID STATE Abstract Art Painting Taylor HUGE
Painting measures 36” x 24” / canvas supported by panel
Starting bid: US $20
Shipping: US $40 USPS ground
Explanation: The shipping charge is greater due to the size/bulk of the item being shipped and custom crating.
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Another thing to think about if a customer is willing to spend 1000 dollars do you honestly think they are going to give a damn about 30 more dollars?? They are going to buy from a trusted seller, and to most buyers someone who screws Ebay is telling alot about how they are going to treat them if something happens. If you will screw Ebay you will screw your customers too.
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So i come out ahead, my customer comes ahead and ebay frowns (but still makes 3% through paypal).
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What if they dont pay thru paypal? Then ebay makes hardly squat and eventually raises prices to stay afloat. Not one person has agreed with you here. Go away. You are tring to screw the system to save yourself but eventually hurts others. Imagine if we all did it your way. Ebay would have to raise prices. So its ok if you do it,so you can save $10. C'mon your tactics are wrong and you are not going to convince anyone here that is right.
Try www.Istealcandyfromkids.com or if that link does not work try www.Isavedonfeesbyswitchingtounethicaltactics.com
Wait its not .com its .org (tax write off)
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Anthony Perrone (if that's really your name), you've been here a week.
You've overstayed your welcome.
Go away.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
-- Yogi Berra
1977 Topps Star Wars - "Space Swashbucklers"
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Great stuff. Keep up the good work.
<< <i>I buy from itzagoner . . . Great seller. Follow his business model.
Great stuff. Keep up the good work. >>
i'm flattered, thank you....your card will ship monday....sorry it took so long
<< <i>I thought the Geko was trying to spam in here
This is the kind of guy who always complains in a restaurant after he eats his entire meal, about how it sucked - so he can scam the restaurant into giving him a free meal.
<< <i>My bottom line is
Increased over $30 by fees saved
So i come out ahead, my customer comes ahead and ebay frowns >>
I do have to ask this - if he makes $30 more, how does the "cutomer" come out ahead?
has nothing to do with this thread, i just found a snake in my yard, so i kicked it
go away. you have posted 21 times and everyone who read them is now dumber because of it.
your character and whatever reputation you may have had are damaged beyond repair.
no one likes you and you have bad breath.
This isn't much different from your current strategy, you're just ripping off two businesses instead of one.
Uh, I gotta say, I'm with you right to the spot where you say you have the urge to kick the snake. My urge, always followed by action, is to challenge the Olympic outdoor record in the 100 meter dash. But it's not like I'm a wuss, I almost always return to the outdoors within a week.
<< <i>Ask Russ about my customer service when he gets his shipment. >>
....yeah, I got your shipment....why don't you just go away?
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
You bi+ch and moan about how ebay fees are so high and you can't make any money unless they do the .05 listing special ........
And then you hold your dick and do nothing about it......
Either live with the fees and don't complain OR help yourself!
But don't bi+ch about the fees then tell me I do the wrong thing .......
AND DON'T FORGET EBAY GETS 3% OF THE GROSS (Final Bid + Shipping) OF EVERY SALE I MAKE
BECAUSE THEY OWN PAYPAL!
You don't even offer insurance for the $1200 duke snider?
Talk about customer service
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
-- Yogi Berra
Hmmmmmmmmmm let me think about it ...................... I'll pass on that one
so we can block you and report your listings.
<< <i>You bi+ch and moan about how ebay fees are so high and you can't make money.... >>
Just for the helluvit, I did a search in past posts - I don't really think there are too many people here who moan about ebay fees. Most of us think they are fair costs for doing business. And besides, we may complain about interest rates, but we don't support the bank robber. Are you sure you got the right number?
Sooo....no problem here; you're not needed - you can go now; g'bye.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I NEVER list on ebay when there is a listing special because of all the junk that is listed at that time you might as well give that money away.
As far as Mark's 1200 card maybe he is paying for the insurance out of the proceeds(some sellers do that you know), I am sure you brain cannot fathom that idea. As a buyer I would never pay for insurance as the seller is responsible for getting the item to the buyer anyway. That is especially true if they take Paypal.
I told everyone your Ebay ID in another post, you can deny it all you want, but when you have the same attitude and post the exact same post word for word here that you did on Ebay's Seller Central it is kinda hard to deny it.
Amen...
The quicker we help Ebay get rid of scum like this the better for all the honest sellers out there..
Notice how when he is asked a question he always ignores it.
I wanted to know using his example how many buyers actually give a damn about that 30.00?? If I were spending that much I know I would pay the extra 30 to buy from a trustworthy seller..
<< <i>As a buyer I would never pay for insurance as the seller is responsible for getting the item to the buyer anyway >>
I agree, which is why I always include insurance in the shipping cost.
Hiphopthriftshop? there is a seller name that inspires confidence.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
If we are so WEAK then why are you still here?? You know they say birds of a feather flock together so that tells me you must be pretty WEAK yourself.
It may be worth more to me than to you, or vice versa
It is what it is
If you guys go on there and screw with his auctions using your shill accounts that is just not cool.
If it was me you were doing it to then fine, but like I said I don't live in Washington DC
Please ask russ for the postmark on the package he gets ..... it will indicate that I am in NJ.
<< <i>Hey $30 is $30 .....
It may be worth more to me than to you, or vice versa
It is what it is >>
Well, at least we what price you put on your conscience...
Banks have some discretion in the rates they offer, but in the end rates they have to work with are set either by the Market or the Federal Reserve.
Ebay has complete discretion over the fees it charges...... Until people start charging too much for shipping that is.
Would you really lose sleep at night if you did a Buy It Now for .01 with higher than actual shipping?
So why is it that you and hiphop said the same exact thing nearly word for word when you came in here blasting people who report auctions. He even used the 1987 Fleer example so you tell me.
Why are you so angry?? Did some of your listings get pulled or did your account get suspended for excessive shipping??
Yeah and people like you only cause them to use that discretion to raise the fees even more. Idiots like you also cause customers to NEVER buy on Ebay again which hurts all of us in the long run. It is idiots like you that are causing sites such as Naxcom to steadily gain in popularity as they have a standard S/H
What are you going to do when Ebay decides to set a S/H standard??
You said you admire Steve Hart, why don't you follow his S/H practices??
and no, i havent had an auction pulled since last year
a 3 box lot of 1990 UD BB for .01 with 29.99 ship/ins/handling/time/gas/packaging
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS DUDE!!
Rich
I know ebay allows a "Reasonable" handling fee to be added to shipping charges.
Now please define reasonable for time spent packing/driving/waiting in line and Gas/supplies/fees plus the actual cost of postage.
So if I sell the 3 boxes of UD BB for .01 and charge 29.99 for all of the above (lets say 1 hr of my time) and I make $500/hr
is not the $29.99 reasonable?
You tell me
Guess that would fit here then.
Eventually you will be forced to stop.
I'll bet that you get FULL service from your $500/hr whore
<< <i>Rich -
I know ebay allows a "Reasonable" handling fee to be added to shipping charges.
Now please define reasonable for time spent packing/driving/waiting in line and Gas/supplies/fees plus the actual cost of postage.
So if I sell the 3 boxes of UD BB for .01 and charge 29.99 for all of the above (lets say 1 hr of my time) and I make $500/hr
is not the $29.99 reasonable?
You tell me >>
I'll answer for Rich -
I don't think he thinks you make $500 a month!
Somebody who makes $500/hr -
1. Doesn't worry about paying ebay fees
2. Doesn't have an auction for $30.00, would just give the $30 worth of cards to kids who would enjoy them
3. Doesn't go to the post office themselves, has an assistant to do that
4. Has the brains to understand that there are COSTS associated with doing business, that even if you're selling polished up crap it is still business and you have to follow rules and regulations.
You're all by yourself, nobody here wants to go along with your scam. All you have managed to do is maybe get a couple of the guys here to spend a few extra minutes reporting the idiots like you who want to cheat ebay.
You keep talking about saving money. 8% of $30 (pretty close average) that you want to save is $2.40!! Who the hell cares about $2.40??
I sold an autographed Roberto Clemente ball once off ebay, and the seller fee was over $500 FOR ONE ITEM!
STFU about your pennies and go away.