<< <i>I can't see this coin ever selling to a numismatist, they better wholesale this coin out to a telemarketer or the coin vault for them to sell.....
Then again PCGS grading guarantee needs to be applied here..... >>
I'll buy the coin at melt. There is no way this is a 65. This is a true example of why to buy the coin, not the holder. Its coins like this that totally destroy the credibility of the grading companies. They were developed to allow for sight unseen purchases (one of the reasons at least). This obviously is not a 65 and should be confiscated by PCGS as soon as possible. I hope HRH is watching the forum today and takes some action.
Coins like this are why we need the blue sheet. Also, are you planning to send it in for a grade review?
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<< <i>Also, are you planning to send it in for a grade review?
>>
If PCGS reviews the grade and determines that it should be down graded, they will send it back in a lower grade holder and send you a check for the difference in value.
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<< <i>As previously stated, I don't own the coin. >>
Sorry. I missed that. If you were the owner, would you submit it for grade review? I know I sure would. In a 62/63 holder, that would be a fine looking coin. In a 65 holder, its just a total embarassment.
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I bet someone photoshoped the label and is playing a big joke on us.
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The "65" has far better luster, no wiping, and less cheek rub than that MS64. A MS64 would be as forgiving as PCGS should have been on the coin as it has great luster. Remember that most $20 Libs in MS65 are pretty hurting. I've had a gold wholesaler scouring all the major bourses for me just to find one decent MS65 at slightly over bid. He has yet to find me a single coin to buy.
$20 Libs tend to look pretty scarred up even in MS65. I recall attending the Eliasberg gold sale in 1983 and assigning grades of MS65+ or to some of his finest $20 LIbs. All of them had cheek abrasions and a few hits. I didn't think any of them were superb. Then again, I was applying seated silver standards to them. In the end, they brought fabulous money and today most are in MS67 or MS66 slabs. So much for my MS65+.
Hi, Roadrunner - I owned several high-grade common 04s at one time, one made it to MS66 PL at NGC, sold for 11K, my biggest gain. The reverse of the thread coin is radically strong and probably brought up the max-64 obverse, at least that's my guess. Rob
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<< <i>I can't see this coin ever selling to a numismatist, they better wholesale this coin out to a telemarketer or the coin vault for them to sell.....
Then again PCGS grading guarantee needs to be applied here..... >>
I'll buy the coin at melt. There is no way this is a 65. This is a true example of why to buy the coin, not the holder. Its coins like this that totally destroy the credibility of the grading companies. They were developed to allow for sight unseen purchases (one of the reasons at least). This obviously is not a 65 and should be confiscated by PCGS as soon as possible. I hope HRH is watching the forum today and takes some action.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Also, are you planning to send it in for a grade review?
If PCGS reviews the grade and determines that it should be down graded, they will send it back in a lower grade holder and send you a check for the difference in value.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>As previously stated, I don't own the coin.
Sorry. I missed that. If you were the owner, would you submit it for grade review? I know I sure would. In a 62/63 holder, that would be a fine looking coin. In a 65 holder, its just a total embarassment.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
David
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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I'll take that bet...
$20 Libs tend to look pretty scarred up even in MS65. I recall attending the Eliasberg gold sale in 1983 and assigning grades of MS65+ or to some of his finest $20 LIbs. All of them had cheek abrasions and a few hits. I didn't think any of them were superb.
Then again, I was applying seated silver standards to them. In the end, they brought fabulous money and today most are in MS67 or MS66 slabs. So much for my MS65+.
roadrunner
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