1946 S PCGS MS66 quarter...sure looks like MS67...opinions please!

39Special

Hello all, awhile back I purchased this 1946 s quarter, graded MS66 by PCGS. It has the cleanest fields and details of any I've seen. Even when you 10x loupe it, it's hard to find any marks. No carbon whatsoever, just a tiny auburn toned spot in the left obverse field that's actually quite attractive. I'm trying to figure out why this wasn't graded an MS67. The strike is average, so maybe that had to do with it. The coin also has what I believe to be some die striations or die polish lines, those raised lines (NOT hairlines) that look like little stress fractures. Could this be why it didn't get an MS67? At any rate, trust me when I say this coin is gorgeous in person. The luster is unlike any I've seen, not in a "booming" sort of way, but so smooth and even it's something to behold.

Edit: Ok, I tried this again, maybe these pictures will work. I kept resizing it and it kept showing up so huge before...until this am when it was the size of a postage stamp and everyone had a good laugh! Let's see if these work.

Bruceswar

Can't tell much from the pic.

karpman9

<< <i>Can't tell much from the pic. >>

Colorfulcoins

"sorry the picture is so huge...."

Don't be sorry for the huge picture.....cause it ain't! Its so small its hard to tell its even a coin! Maybe time to resize it to being huge again.......

RickMilauskas

Is that MicroScope 67??

relayer

sure looks like MS67

Are you nuts? That's a 68 any day of the week

ER

Funny thread

robertpr

Did you get that picture on eBay? PCGS will NOT grade a Washington a 67 with an average strike. They HAVE to be fully stuck, I mean hammered, to go higher than MS66. I hope this helps.

mnmcoin

Maybe they don't grade them miniture coins above 66.

morris <><

Smittys

<< <i>Maybe they don't grade them miniture coins above 66 >>

jmj3esq

?????

Leiana

Do you have a pic of the reverse? We need to see the eagle's breast feathers so we can tell if it is hammered as Robert says.

-Amanda

39Special

I'll try to get a picture up in the next day or so of the reverse. By the way, what exactly are the raised lines running north-south on certain coins? They aren't die cracks, I know exactly what those are, and they aren't scratches, because they are raised. As I said before, they look like little fractures. Are they called "die striations"? On this coin they are far more prominent than any I'd seen, although you need a loupe to see them except for 2 or 3 of the more prominent ones. I also wonder if it's possible if these affect the grading. The coin is pure snow white but it does have these little raised lines on it.

Leiana

<< <i>I'll try to get a picture up in the next day or so of the reverse. By the way, what exactly are the raised lines running north-south on certain coins? They aren't die cracks, I know exactly what those are, and they aren't scratches, because they are raised. As I said before, they look like little fractures. Are they called "die striations"? On this coin they are far more prominent than any I'd seen, although you need a loupe to see them except for 2 or 3 of the more prominent ones. I also wonder if it's possible if these affect the grading. The coin is pure snow white but it does have these little raised lines on it. >>



Die strain is quite common on early Washingtons. It could also be die polish lines, but you really can't tell without a very magnified view or by seeing the coin in person.

-Amanda

39Special

Is "die strain" negatively viewed, or is it neutral, kind of like die cracks as long as they aren't across primary focals, etc?

Leiana

<< <i>Is "die strain" negatively viewed, or is it neutral, kind of like die cracks as long as they aren't across primary focals, etc? >>



Die cracks make varieties, which are actually quite collectible. Die strain with relation to price is more like the planchet adjustment marks from the early days of the mint. It's fine to have and doesn't really affect the value one way or the other.

-Amanda

ChangeInHistory

The luster would have to be booming or close to it to make a 67.

Bruceswar

<< <i>Did you get that picture on eBay? PCGS will NOT grade a Washington a 67 with an average strike. They HAVE to be fully stuck, I mean hammered, to go higher than MS66. I hope this helps. >>



Thats for the most part 100% true, but there are rare exceptions. Luster,Strike and hits all make MS67 a hard grade to get, usally one of the 3 is lacking. Good Luck! On a side note I have seen alot of nice 1946 S quarters floating around.

TorinoCobra71

You CANNOT tell an MS66 or MS67 from that quality of picture!

TorinoCobra71

Elcontador

I know nothing about Washington Quarters, but in what I collect, the difference between a 6 & 7 is as follows:

SLQs - You're looking at a tick mark or toning fleck on a 6 that isn't on a 7. Otherwise, the coin is all THERE. A full strike is not an issue with many of them, as some, like the 24 D, rarely, if ever, come that way.

Liberty Nickel - The luster must be outstanding and surfaces must be very clean. On a nice 6, you'll often see a contact mark on the V which is the only thing holding it back from a 7 holder. These coins rarely come fully struck re star radials and left corn.

SUPERCARCOINS

<< <i>Did you get that picture on eBay? PCGS will NOT grade a Washington a 67 with an average strike. They HAVE to be fully stuck, I mean hammered, to go higher than MS66. I hope this helps. >>



gotta disagree - alot os "S" mint quarters don`t come fully struck ; and there`s plenty of PCGS 67`s out there

SUPERCARCOINS

<< <i>The luster would have to be booming or close to it to make a 67. >>



.....gotta agree with you there

seateddime

better pics need even still would be hard to tell without a bunch of angles

GoldenEyeNumismatics

If the price jump is big then it is worth it to send it in again