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Proof seated quarter NT or AT?

stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
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I've been watching this coin and even thou I don't usually care for toned coins I really like this one. With all the controversy over AT coins lately I'm a little hesitant about paying a premium for a toner, and I don't think I've seen another like this one. It is in an NGC PR65 holder and the asking price is high compared to non-toned PR65's. What do you think - AT or NT?

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  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    AT
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    100% natural. No doubt
  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    My guess would be that that is one of them ones that you can't tell for sure whether or not it is AT or NT (i.e. looks natural, but may have been enhanced).
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin is, regardless of what you have already been told, very NT. However, capturing an accurate image of proof surfaces is quite tricky and I would bet a good sum of money that the coin does not actually "look" like that in-hand. If you are not certain about this arena I would suggest you stay on the sidelines until you are confident in your abilities.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT, with juiced photo.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    juiced image.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    NT as can be.
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  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    nt baby, agree they juiced the image.
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    Looks incredibly NT to me....
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say NT as did the service that graded it. To me it would be worth a premium. I don't think the photo is as juiced as others have said. The typical flat stars and high points are typical for some of the later 1880's date. Note the lack of toning on some high points.
    I prefer even toning over the high points (less handling occurred).

    A very nice example of a 65 imo. Sure beats those conserved cameo proofs that make up the majority of what you see today.

    roadrunner
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  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    Absolutely NT, and very attractive!
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably NT, professionally photographed at just the right angle.

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  • AlteredToneAlteredTone Posts: 304


    << <i>AT >>



    you always say that
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CT

    chemical toning image
    but Naturally
    I think image
  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    the coin is NT but PCGS won't graded it. They will say it is AT today. Next year who knows.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think one would have to see it in hand; it's difficult to judge any coin from an overlit, "special angle" picture.

    the image was meant to show color and it does, but the in person eye appeal is often different from these kinds of pics

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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    I've had the coin in-hand and it is definitely NT and is certainly a image Seated 25c.
    To describe the coin in-hand, the reverse was more impressive than the obverse IMHO.
    It is a very pleasing coin.image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I said "juiced" image, I meant visually optimized. The image on the photo is probably achievable (or virtually so) in hand with just the right angle and just the right lighting.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭


    << <i>When I said "juiced" image, I meant visually optimized. The image on the photo is probably achievable (or virtually so) in hand with just the right angle and just the right lighting. >>

    oooohhhh, someone scolded RYK. Nice backtrack, but I'm more with your original statement. It looks NT and I imagine very, very nice. But the image is juiced.
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT & beautiful.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oooohhhh, someone scolded RYK.

    No, not yet, anyway. image

    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    << I've had the coin in-hand and it is definitely NT and is certainly a Seated 25c.
    To describe the coin in-hand, the reverse was more impressive than the obverse IMHO.
    It is a very pleasing coin. >>

    That's what I was really hoping to hear - someone that had actually seen the coin in person. I expected that a coin that nice would be recognized by someone.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • WhizzardWhizzard Posts: 955
    NT. And very attractive.
    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AT >>



    Figures Beavis would call it AT. that coin is NT all the way! See how the Toning goes EVENLY into the devices as well as the Field? Time for some NT 101 DeadZep86...... image

    TorinoCobra71

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NT, with juiced photo. >>





    << <i>When I said "juiced" image, I meant visually optimized >>





    << <i>oooohhhh, someone scolded RYK. Nice backtrack >>




    << <i>No, not yet, anyway >>




    stman translation.... he found out a board member was the seller, respected one too!image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not that I owe anyone, least of all STman, an explanation, once I figured out who the seller was, I recollected two previous coins that I have purchased, both were photographed by an agent of the seller. Both coins, including the coin I presently use as my icon, had images that could have just as easily been considered juiced. In both cases, if the coin was angled to to a halogen light source, the appearance in hand could be made to look like that in the photo. I suspect that the quarter in the OP might be dark in a dealer's case, but if you took the coin home, and angled it to a halogen light (or maybe even an Ott lamp), you will see the same colors as the photo.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>least of all STman >>



    Yes, I love ya too man! Ya done good, you'll stay "Popular" that way. I wasn't trying to give you a bad time either.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never said it wasn't desireable.... I just said it is chemically toned.
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    <------green with envy (that's NT)
  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349 ✭
    NT and gorgeous! image

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wasn't trying to give you a bad time either.

    You're a natural. You can do it without even trying. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I wasn't trying to give you a bad time either.

    You're a natural. You can do it without even trying. image >>



    I'm honest, so yes that comes natural. Thanks for the compliment. Notimage

    Edit to add, not that I need to explain this to the likes of you.
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