southerncards, why do you constantly bash PSA, and promote your pro-SGC agenda on these boards?
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and lately youve even been jumping in perfectly good threads, attacking other forum members with your non-sense posts..
why do you do that?
is it just because you are a troll on these message boards?
is it because your SGC message boards only get 1 post per month?
why do you do that?
is it just because you are a troll on these message boards?
is it because your SGC message boards only get 1 post per month?
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At least most people understand that DBH has tongue firmly planted in cheek when he spouts his pro-PSA rhetoric. Maybe if the SGC forums got more than 3 posts a week, SC wouldn't hang out here, spewing his negativity.
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I think everyone on these boards or at least most of the board members know and have heard of SGC and even use them. There have been countless threads about the best holders; what issues should be graded with what company (pre-war, post war, etc). I don't think that is what P.A. is talking about here. It's like the crazies at Scientology that block my path down the sidewalk pitching me their crap when I was working out in Hollywood. Or the same telemarketing people that keep calling you repeatedly after you've said no even though you know exactly what they're pitching. "Don't use Kodak for your printers, use our toner brand instead". Most of us here use PSA exclusively....this is a PSA forum and we discuss about PSA slabs. I myself use all 3 (SGC, PSA, BGS) because I like what each specific brand has to offer in its own unique way. I think it just gets tiresome for someone to come in and bash PSA everytime I read something from this person who has nothing to contribute to this forum. We all know DaBigHurt is pro PSA and expresses his love dearly for them and there's nothing wrong with that. He's in the right forum. Imagine putting him on the SGC or BGS boards and having him constantly raving the same thing. Do you think it would bother them?
<< <i>I just don't see the appeal of the sgc holder. I think they suck balls. >>
is it because your SGC message boards only get 1 post per month?
Perry is right on target. Even worse, that one post is typically bashing PSA due to envy or stupidity...or it could be envious stupidity.
i got all kind cards in holders from places too, eveng gai and becketts,
screw him.
But attempting to nitpick a company, any company, to death time after time even when it isn't deserved in the least...frankly the poster loses credibility and one has to wonder about some sort of hidden agenda with a poster such as this.
<< <i>fro the record, i ts not so much thaat im agains SGC, but i cant stand southerncrads and his routine is tired,,, and he think s he's funny -- he's not,,
i got all kind cards in holders from places too, eveng gai and becketts,
screw him. >>
Another Poet Laureate in the making......
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<< <i>fro the record, i ts not so much thaat im agains SGC, but i cant stand southerncrads and his routine is tired,,, and he think s he's funny -- he's not,,
i got all kind cards in holders from places too, eveng gai and becketts,
screw him. >>
Another Poet Laureate in the making...... >>
i was inebriated -- you're still an idiot.
Rich
<< <i>I have sets registered in both the PSA and SGC registries. All else being equal, I prefer SGC for their consistency and the more attractive holders, but I can't get that worked up about it that I have to jump on an an online forum, slagging a company because they aren't my favourite.
At least most people understand that DBH has tongue firmly planted in cheek when he spouts his pro-PSA rhetoric. Maybe if the SGC forums got more than 3 posts a week, SC wouldn't hang out here, spewing his negativity. >>
I am not a homer by any means and many on this board will attest to that but I do not like SGC holders at all. The numbering system on the flip I do not like and I don't like the black boarder insert either. I do not own one SGC holder and do not have any intention of buying any in the near future. chaz
<< <i>as far as I'm concerned, SGC sucks and because of that fact, I'm happy to say that I don't own a single one!
Rich >>
SGC holders are shiny
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i was inebriated >>
Your parents must be oh so proud...
are you going to answer the question, or are you going to be an idiot, as usual?
I think we all know the answer....
<< I just found a "forgotten" box in my folks basement and it was full of good stuff. All 50's and 60's stars but these were by far the best condition.
I'm happy I still have these. I used to have about 100 55 Bowmans as crisp as these and they were the first cards I sold(raw mind you) on eBay when I started selling in 2000. Some guy bought them without pics and paid less than a buck a card for about 30 of them. >>
wow, must be cool to still be living with your folks.....
Ummm, ok. Where in the italicized area does it say that I lived there?
? >>
It doesn't. I just figured you were in the basement sneaking a peak at the Playboy that you stole from your dad when you found the box.
Geez, SGC never complains about toploaders....
you guys have it rough.
wow zef, that was neat!
maybe next week we can look under Mary Lou's dress at recess.
geez, I've never waited more than 28-30 days for my subs to return from SGC.
I feel bad for you guys.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
If you like PSA, that's fine. If you have complaints about your grades received, turnaround times, monthly specials, mylar condoms, holders that are easy to crack, clouded holders, mechanical errors, poor customer service, WIWAG, membership fees, the 314 grader of death, mislabeled holders, SMR, dealers getting preferential treatment, cards they do/dont/did at one time but now dont grade or any of the other numerous things that members complain about, then hold them accountable. One time, I got a sub back from SGC and they had the wrong year on the label. I emailed them, made arrangements to have it fixed, and it was returned in short order for free. I did not get on the message baord and complain to 1000 people about the error. Recently someone posted an SGC slab that had a business card encased in the slab. My exact reply was " I dont really know what to make of it but I cant say that I really care for it either". I didnt defend SGC, I stated my dislike of the practice.
You are the consumer. They have a duty to you to provide you with the service level you are entitled to for your membership fees. If you dont like the service they provide, find another company. PSA, SGC, GAI, BGS et al all have their strong points and weak points. Each company has some type of following. Decide who gives you what you want and go with them. If they do you wrong, change companies. That is and always has been my "agenda".
Take a look at your collection. You really do not have that large of a stake in spouting off some of the things you do. You own a few low grade SGC cards and feel the need to speak on behalf of SGC. That is not humorous. It is pathetic.
<< <i>Actually, if you look at the number of times that I post, there's really not alot of "PSA bashing " posts. Those are just the ones that people remember. Many times I reply to other posts that have nothing to do with PSA bashing. The comparisons to DBH are rather funny. There are a few people here who have contacted me privately and those folks "get" my humor. The majority of the rest (not all) seem to be so hell bent on retaliation that they get all worked up. That is pure entertainment. Someone asked if I even own any PSA slabs? The answer is no. I did own one once but that was given to me and I had it cracked out and sent to SGC since my collection is in SGC slabs. Have I seen some nice cards in PSA slabs? Sure. Do I routinely look for them? No. If I go to a show, I generally walk past a dealers table with PSA material unless it is such an ultra rare card that draws my attention. I have stated (in the past) some of my reasons for not using PSA and I'm not going to go into that again.
If you like PSA, that's fine. If you have complaints about your grades received, turnaround times, monthly specials, mylar condoms, holders that are easy to crack, clouded holders, mechanical errors, poor customer service, WIWAG, membership fees, the 314 grader of death, mislabeled holders, SMR, dealers getting preferential treatment, cards they do/dont/did at one time but now dont grade or any of the other numerous things that members complain about, then hold them accountable. One time, I got a sub back from SGC and they had the wrong year on the label. I emailed them, made arrangements to have it fixed, and it was returned in short order for free. I did not get on the message baord and complain to 1000 people about the error. Recently someone posted an SGC slab that had a business card encased in the slab. My exact reply was " I dont really know what to make of it but I cant say that I really care for it either". I didnt defend SGC, I stated my dislike of the practice.
You are the consumer. They have a duty to you to provide you with the service level you are entitled to for your membership fees. If you dont like the service they provide, find another company. PSA, SGC, GAI, BGS et al all have their strong points and weak points. Each company has some type of following. Decide who gives you what you want and go with them. If they do you wrong, change companies. That is and always has been my "agenda". >>
My previous point: "But attempting to nitpick a company, any company, to death time after time even when it isn't deserved in the least...frankly the poster loses credibility and one has to wonder about some sort of hidden agenda with a poster such as this."
You made my point for me.
<< <i>You are not a consumer of PSA products. (I never claimed to be)
You do not even own a single PSA card,(I've already said that) but yet you come on these forums to advertise about recent SGC sales (I dont recall ever quoting documented sales, I could be wrong but I dont remember doing that) .
and new SGC holders (yep, did that. This is a sports card and memorabilia forum, and I was discussing a topic germain to that genre).
Take a look at your collection. You really do not have that large of a stake (define large?) in spouting off some of the things you do. You own a few low grade SGC cards (really?, you've come to my house and looked over my collection? or are you merely making statements based on some cards that I've posted on the SGC set registry?)
and feel the need to speak on behalf of SGC. (actually, I'm speaking on behalf of the consumer/collector but obviously you dont get that) >>
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
We do not discuss German sports cards here.
good one stevek, although some of the German female athletes I've seen could be fodder for another steroids discourse
<< <i>[qWe do not discuss German sports cards here. >>
good one stevek, although some of the German female athletes I've seen could be fodder for another steroids discourse >>
Wouldn't mind some Sharapova sports cards. Strictly so I can view her tennis stats of course.
<< <i> Monday May 22, 2006 1:48 AM
Its funny that whenever anyone else posts something pro SGC, they don't get criticized the way I do.
and no, I dont get a commission for each time I post "SGC". (Although it does give me a warm fuzzy to read some anti-PSA comment from a PSA member that I am able to reply to with something wonderful that SGC does)
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If mistakes by a grading company brings a police officer such glee, I would think that police officer has a skewed set of priorities.
When DaBigHurt posts his comments, it is obvious that most of what he says is tongue in cheek. On the other hand, it does seem that you are serious when you post similar garbage and that is what is so sad.
Why so much loyalty to a company that grades baseball cards? You are not honest when you say that you contribute many posts about other topics; the vast majority of your posts are are simply digs at PSA and then defending yourself when you get called on it.
<< <i>Wouldn't mind some Sharapova sports cards. Strictly so I can view her tennis stats of course. >>
stevek - I've got some "interesting" tennis player pics. Not sure if its Sharapova but the lady is very pretty and the photos are great! If you want them, pm me your email and I'll forward them along.
I guess I hold cops to a higher standard and do not like them pushing a grading companies' agenda as a "cause". There are probably more worthy causes out there.
I called on day 17 of a 35 card order(1976 Topps Baseball) and the kid that answered gave me a bunch of junk about calling 3 days before they were due? Save the you get what you pay for posts!
I posted a message on their board about a 7 card order (1976 Topps Baseball) and it was day 19 or something and the president of their company called me out on their board about whinning and I get what I pay for and to basically shut up.
I have had SGC cards that look like they a wedged into the holder,hooked looking edges of the insert,fragments of black things floating around,misspelled last names and labels that look like I did them up in my basement? I have nothing personal with SGC and actually like some of my cards in their holders but they are far from perfect and if you for one minute think that BMW and crashtestalex haven't got favorable grades in the past you are sleeping at the wheel!
I do recall a certain rare Doyle card that SGC graded and it wasn't authentic? Maybe someone can refresh our memories about that one?
Save the "that was during the Merkel ERA and it is no longer an issue" posts because the Wagner and WIWAG were during the Rocchi/Baker ERA so then they should not be an issue anymore either!
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jackstraw - I'm sorry that you were treated that way and that you feel you were wronged. Again, if you feel that the service was not up to par, you have every right to complain to them and get satisfaction.
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there is little doubt that PSA grades more cards on a daily basis that SGC (i guess i could be wrong, i dont know).. and there is absolutely zero doubt that this message board is much more active than the SGC message boards.. and that means there will be more criticism seen towards ANY company on this message board, in particular PSA.. anyway, no need for another PSA-vs-SGC thread, i think thats been done a million times..
generally, the people who criticize PSA here are PSA CUSTOMERS (except southerncards, who has owned 1 psa card in his life).. and absolutely i believe a CUSTOMER has more right to complain about a company than someone that has no experience with them.. i'm pretty sure even DaBigHurt owns PSA cards.. (and yes, he annoys me sometimes too -- but he's also funnier than southerncards)..
are there things PSA customers would like to see PSA do differently? Absolutely. That's why most of the critical threads are started by PSA customers..
[waiting on DBH to come explain the features & benefits of PSA membership]
<< <i>When I post a more "law enforcement oriented" comment about the illegal drug promotion on these boards >>
Okay - this is news to me. Come on, now, who's holding here?
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
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I do believe however that I am funnier than DBH but I guess thats a matter of opinion.
<< <i>..these boards that are often frequented by minors... >>
Hmmm. I'd be curious to hear how many minors (under 18 yoa?) frequent these boards.
If you're under 18 and reading this board, please acknowledge yourself. It'd be nice to know the kind of audience we do have here. If there are (m)any of that age range, perhaps we could provide some kind of special question/answer thread for them.
In fact, I could create a separate thread to poll the age range of this readership.
Think I will...
<< <i>If you're under 18 and reading this board, please acknowledge yourself. It'd be nice to know the kind of audience we do have here. If there are (m)any of that age range, perhaps we could provide some kind of special question/answer thread for them. >>
This must be devil's advocate day for me, but I don't agree with the patronizing tone. Right off the bat, I know of at least 2 teenage collectors who know more about vintage cards than I suspect I ever will.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Provide a special question/answer for them? Why can't they coexist here with the rest of the PSA users and yourself?
As far as the q&a, everyone can co-exist here just fine. I do think that a q & a area for younger inexperienced collectors is a nice idea.
<< <i>I dont see it as patronizing at all. What makes you think so?..... I do think that a q & a area for younger inexperienced collectors is a nice idea. >>
You've answered your own question.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."