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1981 Topps scratch-offs

mkg809mkg809 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭
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I have several I want to submit. I guess I have to submit them as oversized? Any clarification will help.
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  • DerekDDerekD Posts: 388 ✭✭
    They are considered tall boys for a submission. And, if you have any Murphys that get a nine, I know you could make some good $$$ off them. image

    Derek
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I pay great prices for Schmidt graded PSA 9 - and if you can score me a 10 - I'll pay $150, easy
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • rbeatonrbeaton Posts: 631 ✭
    I'm looking for high grade Palmers if you have any... Good luck with your submissions as these are tough cards...

    Robert
    Looking for:
    Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
    High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    do you separate them or send the complete panel? would these grade similar to the squirt cards as far as separating at the perforations?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • rbeatonrbeaton Posts: 631 ✭


    << <i>do you separate them or send the complete panel? would these grade similar to the squirt cards as far as separating at the perforations? >>

    You can send them in as either complete panels (much harder to get high grade in my opinion) or singles:

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    The Palmer card (as like others) has two different backs and the panels have several different combinations of the three players.

    Robert
    Looking for:
    Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
    High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    rbeaton,
    thanks. i've got 2 unopened boxes i may need to bust and see what kind of results i have.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • mcholkemcholke Posts: 1,000 ✭✭
    I will add I am looking for graded Tony Perez panels as well

    Collecting Tony Perez PSA and Rookie Baseball PSA

  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    ok, i pulled a few that will probably yield 8s but will hope for higher.

    what kind of holders do you put the complete panels in when submitting to psa?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    ld,
    They fit in CS 4's. I have a bunch that I would like to submit but not sure my eye for them is good enough. Also if you would like to part with one of those boxes, let me know.

    Also a question to the board. I have one that has none of the sctatch off material on it. It hasn't been sctatched just not a finished card. Any thoughts? The reason I ask is it's one of the top two Perez cards in the box I opened.

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    would the black dots being scratched from cards above it in the pack be considered "surface wear" and detrimental to the grade?

    redroman, i'm thinking mine will be 7 and 8s. i will be hoping for 9s but it will be a longshot unless i can cut individuals. i'm planning to submit a few so we'll see.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    I would think that any scratches on the black dots would be detrimental to the grade. It seems like the ones I have that have good centering have that and the ones that aren't centered well have perfect dots.

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    rebeaton,
    could you email me a better scan of the palmer you have cut out? i'd like to see how it looks. i'm debating whether to cut or submit the entire panel.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    i submitted 5 for grading just to see how they fared. 2-7's, 1-8, 2-9's. i've listed them on the bay. click 'my auctions' below. actually the 7s are either the first graded example period and the others are the highest graded. i thought the schmidt and ozzie were nice. i can't tell much difference from the 7s to the 9s.

    thanks for looking


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    The biggest problem i came across was the black ink transferring from the front of the card(the black circles) to the back side of the the top card through the whole pack. It was very hard to get more than a few per pack with a clean back. CENTERING is a whole "nother" issue.
  • mkg809mkg809 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭
    I have several I'm waiting for grades on. I'll post them as soon as they pop.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    my issues have been the corners. they are sharp, yet curled...make sense?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    These can be real touogh to grade high. I have a number of boxes and I've opened a dozen or so packs. Most have gum problems. I only pulled a few out that I thought could grade 8 or better.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>These can be real touogh to grade high. I have a number of boxes and I've opened a dozen or so packs. Most have gum problems. I only pulled a few out that I thought could grade 8 or better. >>



    I wonder if a panel will ever grade a 10. I know I've busted a number of boxes in such an effort.

    ~ms
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    Here's a few that I graded that got posted today. I've got a couple more coming back.

    45 06590209 1981 TOPPS 21 BUDDY BELL SCRATCH-OFFS 10
    46 06590210 1981 TOPPS 39 RICKEY HENDERSON SCRATCH-OFFS 9
    47 06590211 1981 TOPPS 60 MIKE SCHMIDT SCRATCH-OFFS 9
    48 06590212 1981 TOPPS 64 JOHNNY BENCH SCRATCH-OFFS 9
    49 06590213 1981 TOPPS 67 KEITH HERNANDEZ SCRATCH-OFFS 10

    MS, I noticed that you were interested in a Schmidt 9. It's for sale if you still need one. I'm not really sure what it's worth though.

    I'll post pictures when I get these back for everyone to see. I'm curious too on how the 10's look. I can't remember how picky I was with the black dots being fully intact. I'm wondering if that was the difference between the 9's and 10's.
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    My thought is there will never be a 10 based on there are to many issues with those cards. Centering is a huge deal and the scratch off portion tend to rub off easily. I just had some pop that were (ST) and I missed it. I would just be happy with 8's

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    red, i think there are a couple of 10s out there now. i was lucky to hit a few 9s in october. those are very tough and 10s will be very very difficult IMO.

    wabbit, can you scan your 10s? great job.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    They're on their way back. I'll post them when I get them. The really puzzling thing is I took a small beating on the rest of my invoice so it's not like a got a good grader. He butchered me on my Burger King cards for my sets.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    In November i just sent in the HOF'S in single player form and they should receive high grades. I have 4 beautiful Pete Roses that went in, all dead centered. I am expecting high grades on these.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    I have a bunch of boxes of the scratchoffs. I would be interested in how you chose your submissions.
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    LD, I saw the 10's that jusy popped on this thread. Maybe what I should have said was that I don't think there will be a 10 on the three card scratch offs. The current pop report lists 1 and it's a single card. Gaspipe, If you would like to part with a box or two I would be interested.

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    How do you seperate the singles? I would think that if you cut them with an exacto then they would come back as trimmed but looking at that 8 Palmer it looks like a pretty clean cut. I have only tried to bend them to get them seperated and they sure don't look that clean.

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • Late1970sToppsLate1970sTopps Posts: 750 ✭✭✭
    I listed ten of them on eBay this evening. If you want to check them out, you can do so by using this link: LINK Frank
    Looking for 1975, 1978, and 1979 Topps Baseball in high end PSA 9 and PSA 10.
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  • RobesonRobeson Posts: 272
    I have been opening a few of these boxes and they look good except for very minor scratches on the black dots. Luckily, the stick of gum is wrapped in a piece of wax paper. Is there 3 different variations of each player?
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    There are four variations of some players.

    red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    RedRomad i use a blade from a bic plastic razor and carefully let it follow the perforation. For an example take a look at my 1986 Carew Star Set under "baseball sets" on the registry. All were hand cut by me.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    1986 Star Carew Set
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    Here's one of my PSA 10's. I've been meaning to list all these for sale but my work loves me so much that they are honoring me with very long hours lately. I'll get them up eventually.

    image
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    I was always under the impression that if it had factory perforation then it can't be cut. There was a discussion about it a few months back in regard to stamps. That kind of changes my thoughts about it and makes me want to send in some of mine that I have in lower grade.

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    wabbit,
    nice job. what did you use to cut it?

    redroman,
    i thought the same thing per the thread you mentioned regarding psa's stance. i guess it's a tossup as to what psa allows from time to time on these things..kind of frustrating.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I would imagine that eventually a PSA 10 panel will surface, but it might be a long time in waiting.

    I was the first person ever to get a PSA 10 on a 1981 O-Pee-Chee baseball card [Bob Boone], and I think there are only two from the entire set today.

    But given the bad economics of submitting panels [8s routinely lose money], it may be awhile. I think many of us here have opened up a couple of boxes of the 1981 Scratch-Offs, and between centering, wax stains, and the large size....a true PSA 10 of a panel may be a very rare feat indeed.

    M
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    I used a razor blade to get a clean cut on the perferation. I wasn't sure if it was ok so I only subitted 5 cards to find out. I've heard horror stories though of people not getting them graded that way. Seems like to me though that as long your not removing part of the card, then it's not really trimming. JMO though. Trimming means that your removing 1/16 of an inch off a card, getting a clean separation really isn't the same thing.

    The boxes I opened have some pretty clean panels. They are tough, but I'm gonna give it my best shot at trying for a 10 on a full panel. We'll see.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    I just sent in 10 full panels, we'll see.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    gas,
    good luck. here are a few panels that just popped for me:

    25 06550660 1981 TOPPS PARKER/MATT./CONC. SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    26 06550661 1981 TOPPS CARTER/CRUZ/GARNER SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    27 06550662 1981 TOPPS CARTER/COLLNS/GARNR SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    28 06550663 1981 TOPPS SCHMDT/CRMRT/STRNS SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    29 06550664 1981 TOPPS SMITH/WHTFLD/BIBBY SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    30 06550665 1981 TOPPS ROSE/EASLER/HOWE SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    31 06550666 1981 TOPPS SCHMDT/CEDENO/STRNS SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    32 06550667 1981 TOPPS KINGMN/RCHRDS/BIBBY SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    33 06550668 1981 TOPPS PARRSH/RVERS/PALMER SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    44 06550680 1981 TOPPS OLIVR/REVERING/HEND SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    45 06550681 1981 TOPPS JACKSN/BELL/TRAMMLL SCRATCH-OFFS 7



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    David - Harsh grades.

    The panels in 9 are very, very tough to get. And I recently sold a PSA 8 Schmidt panel on Ebay for only $0.99. There is huge risk $$-wise in sending these in, with very limited chance for reward.

    ~ms
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    I just got a 9 back in the three card panel. That was the highlight as all the others came back 7-8 and a couple with (ST). I'll post pics shortly.It's the McBride/Cedeno/Concepcion

    Red

    image

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Here are my hand cut grades i just got back today. All hand cut by me from the same box!!


    20 06601700 1981 TOPPS 64 JOHNNY BENCH SCRATCH-OFFS 10 ------holy crap!!
    20 06601701 1981 TOPPS 64 JOHNNY BENCH SCRATCH-OFFS 7
    30 06601711 1981 TOPPS 62 PETE ROSE SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    30 06601712 1981 TOPPS 62 PETE ROSE SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    30 06601713 1981 TOPPS 62 PETE ROSE SCRATCH-OFFS 8
    30 06601714 1981 TOPPS 62 PETE ROSE SCRATCH-OFFS 9
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    can you post scan of the bench when you get it back?


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    That Bench is now a 1/1--first 10 to pop on that scratcher!! Gotta love those cheap Bic Razor blades!!
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I had a recent submission pop with two panels in PSA 9, one in PSA 9 ST, and the rest in PSA 8. I still think a panel in 10 will be a difficult feat....
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    I'd be interested in anyone has a Buckner from the Scratch off set.

    Regards,

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  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    I'll have to look through mine for a buckner. It seems the red cards are harder to find centered then the green. I have four more prospective three card panels to send in. I need to find a couple more unopened boxes. Anyone know a good source?

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll have to look through mine for a buckner. It seems the red cards are harder to find centered then the green. I have four more prospective three card panels to send in. I need to find a couple more unopened boxes. Anyone know a good source?

    Red >>



    Red - you can occasionally find them on Ebay. They used to be had for <$10/box, but it seems like they are now more a $20 box.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    I've seen a few just looking to score some without all the EBay hassle from a board member. Thanks

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    I sent in 5 panels and 5 singles. I received 4-9's and 1-8 on the panels and the same on the singles. Not bad I thought. I have a sealed case and a few boxes I think I'll open a few.
  • RedRomad275RedRomad275 Posts: 728
    Sweet, I would like to see the 9's when you get them back. I have a unopened box but would like to pick up one or two more.

    Red

    Looking for 81-84 Topps Stickers in PSA 9 or better, 81 Topps Scratch offs, 83 Topps Fold outs in PSA 8 or better, 83 Fleer Stamps and 81/86 Fleer Star Stickers in PSA 9 or better.
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