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caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
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  • caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    see this is a MS coin, but i have a problem with grading these.

    just look at the strike. is that normal? good? bad?

    every MS buff I see, they all have a strange look.

    is that a parallel rim bump at 2 and 9 pm?

    so i shall say easy MS63. but knowing when i say this,
    i am probably off by 3 points.

    that means it is AU58 or MS65 :-(
  • paulheeppaulheep Posts: 184
    Ok, I'll give it a shot. Looks proof to me. PR67

    Paul
  • jayboxxjayboxx Posts: 1,613 ✭✭
    Tough, I would say 67 but what are the marks on the obverse rim at 10 and 2 o'clock?
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Sure looks like a proof.

    PR65
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pf-66
  • intocoinsintocoins Posts: 602 ✭
    I'll say MS-68. Probably one of the best struck Buffs i've ever seen. Great example and Congrats if you own it.
  • caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
    Anybody else? I'll post the grade Sunday.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll post the grade Sunday. >>


    Post away!
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  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433 ✭
    I believe I was able to see this coin in person at the last Baltimore show, and Caitlin, please correct me if I have the wrong coin.

    I'll refrain from my thoughts on what I thought this coin graded until after Caitlin posts the grade.

    I'm not sure if I remember what the services ended up grading this coin.
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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say Proof 67.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say Matte Proof-65. The reason why I hesitate to go higher is the scratches that show to the left of the high feather on the Indian's head and the one to the right of "B" in LIBERTY."
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Those obv rim marks almost look like planchet defects to me. Certainly has flat rims like matte proof lincolns. So I'll go PR66.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,530 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those obv rim marks almost look like planchet defects to me. Certainly has flat rims like matte proof lincolns. So I'll go PR66. >>



    The trouble is the one by the feather goes into the field next to the feather too. If it were a planchet defect I would have thought that the mark would have been struck off or at least diminished. When you get into grades above MS or PR-63, this stuff starts to count.
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  • rightonrighton Posts: 80 ✭
    ms 63

    righton
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Those obv rim marks almost look like planchet defects to me. >>


    Excellent observation. If they are planchet defects, one might conclude this is a business strike. However, considering the rims and detail, it's still looks like a proof.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The rims and the die state look like a proof. Proofs were struck at least twice, which would create the wide rims. I don't know about the finish, tho-it doesn't seem to have that "sandblasted" matte finish. I'm NOT an expert when it comes to matte proofs. I suggest you look at the EDGES of the coin-is there ANY beveling? In other words-does the edge appear to be of uniform thickness ALL the way around? Look at the EDGES of a modern proof nickel-see how it looks "thicker" than a business strike when compared to the business strike, with NO beveling. I'd LOVE to ask a grader for PCGS how THEY determine a matte proof from an exceptional business strike with a "matte" finish-I think a lot of it has to do with the edge of the coin in addition to the surface finish. (perhaps one will reply ????) It's my opinion that the proof dies were used to strike circulation strikes for Buffalos once they were deemed no longer fit to strike proofs, as is the case for the "Type B" reverse quarters and more recently for the Lincoln cents (wide and "close" AM) and probably every other US coin from the 18th and 19th centuries. With the cost of making dies, it would stand to reason that these dies wouldn't be discarded after a few hundred or a few thousand proof strikes but would be subesquentially used for business strikes once the proofs were struck.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin Proof 66
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  • caitlincaitlin Posts: 858 ✭✭✭
    I showed the coin to several dealers was told it was a proof. I sent it into NGC and it came back as an MS65.image
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,603 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks better than 65 and it does look like a proof.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks better than 65 and it does look like a proof. >>



    I totally agree, but I also think that the TPG's do blow one every once in a whileimage
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    << I'll post the grade Sunday. >>

    Hmmm... image
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< I'll post the grade Sunday. >>

    Hmmm... image >>



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