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Ok guys, if this means anything. I sent emails to both hotmail accounts and used my www.Didtheyreadit.com
IP address for both emails are below.
This is what I received back from my didtheyreadit.com
incugator:
To stop receiving receipts when this message is re-read, please click here. Mail Read Information To: <incugator@hotmail.com> Subject: Collectors Universe Sent On: 06/02/06 (12:31AM) 1st Opened: 06/02/06 (12:56AM) Tracking Summary Total: Opened 1 time by 1 reader Tracking Details (latest first) Opened: 06/02/06 (12:56AM) Read Duration (approx.): 00:00:06 Location: (US) United States, ARIZONA, PHOENIX (Data by NetAcuity) Show Map Organization (ISP): - / COX COMMUNICATIONS INC. / COX COMMUNICATIONS (broadband) Opened On: ip70-162-161-79.ph.ph.cox.net (70.162.161.79) Language: en-us Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; YComp 5.0.0.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Referrer: http://by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?msg=7F3…
and.
This is the ebay seller below:
To stop receiving receipts when this message is re-read, please click here. Mail Read Information To: <Rcambio82@hotmail.com> Subject: ebay 8818010402 Sent On: 06/02/06 (12:32AM) 1st Opened: 06/02/06 (01:53AM) Tracking Summary Total: Opened 1 time by 1 reader Tracking Details (latest first) Opened: 06/02/06 (01:53AM) Read Duration (approx.): 00:00:12 Location: (US) United States, CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES (Data by NetAcuity) Show Map Organization (ISP): - / VERIZON GLOBAL NETWORKS (xdsl) Opened On: pool-71-109-43-225.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net (71.109.43.225) Language: en-us Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Referrer: http://by105fd.bay105.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?msg=19C…
Well, the truth has been uncovered (although I don't know how legal that is) and I guess I'll pencil in everybody for 10k. I'm just kidding, but I hope this puts some of your minds at ease that I have no relationship to this other Ryan and I am not trying to scam you. I'm simply trying to get a great deal for all of us.
Were you joyridesally? If you were, why didn't you just put I'm checking your location through didtheyreadit.com? I typed you a serious reply. I'm guessing that you aren't serious.
<< <i>Well, the truth has been uncovered (although I don't know how legal that is) and I guess I'll pencil in everybody for 10k. I'm just kidding, but I hope this puts some of your minds at ease that I have no relationship to this other Ryan and I am not trying to scam you. I'm simply trying to get a great deal for all of us.
-Ryan >>
Ryan
I've had some fun at your expense.
For this I apologize - I'm still incredulous to your deal since I think, even if it were a good one, it would be difficult to divide equitably.
Nobody really meant anything personal against you - it's all in the timing.
If you were a member here for a few years and presented this? It would be a different story.
So, as one of the "instigators" - I want to wish you all the best and I hope you pick up some good deals.
And, yes, some of us are classic collectors with mounds of stick time and have had our share of lumps and sometimes, react commensurately.
Wizardsguildcards--your police station made me chuckle.
about 3 weeks ago i just met an ebay seller to do a cash deal for 2 graded mantle rookies in cash. i am the one who requested a police station by him. but i also took an armed off duty cop with me who i am very close friends with. this keeps everyone safe. the deal went thru wihout a hitch.
I too appologize to the OP, but the listing still has the smell of bad fish to it.
The seller would have to be a real idiot to list the item the way he did.
I still think the flip on the 1953 looks like it says 196X cannot read the last number. Best way to prove the authenticity of this listing would be to ask the seller to provide you up close individual pics of 10 of the Mantles. The pics need to show the case and card all at the same time.
I agree the listing will most likely get pulled not just for the charity thing, but Ebay has been pulling listings from new sellers presenting deals like this. This seller has no previous selling history.
Nothing against anyone here, but I would not venture into a huge deal such as this with most board members. I really have not met any of them and would not feel comfortable splitting a few thousand on a auction. This is not a small deal you are asking them to particpate in.
So, If I ever came up with a bright idea of buying a $30,000 lot of vintage cards, would you guys trust me since I have been on here for some years now?
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve
Sorry...I had to laugh...this thread kind of reminded of Beckett...lol I actually had to glance up and check the url to be sure I was in the right spot lol
Why is the seller not selling individually or through an auction house / dealer?
Ryan - if you're in Phoenix you may have more success in advertising to buy cards from individuals. The influx of retirees in Arizona certainly would turn up collections to be had at modest prices.
We know cards pretty well, so it is tough for a scam artist to pull a fast one on us. But we can never be too cautious with these kinds of people. What if this was an area of expertise in another arena like watches, cars or coins?
Scam artists prey on the unknowing. None of us are experts in all things. So, while we may have seen it all in baseball cards, what about indoor plumbing, repairs on post-2000 Mercedes or Jaguar, appliance repair facility, home remodeling....?
Scam artists are some of the nicest people on the surface. They are trying to gain your trust and thus put your guards down. I have found through a friend in the automotive business just how much of what they do has little to do with getting the car the repair it needs. It has all to do with selling the customer stuff that are not essential--premature shock and strut replacement, etc. The same with appliance repair and home remodeling.
With knowledge, a scam artist does not stand a chance. Hopefully we all have the right connections of people to consult with when requiring service for the car, the house or even getting dental work. Capitalism was suppose to be all about the consumer choosing to buy the better mousetrap, but what we really have is who can make the consumer think that their product is superior. The better scam artist one is, the more success in business. The better mousetrap that you make has little relevance today.
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve
my opinion is it's a scam auction... anyone buying that is out of their mind if they don't at least demand escrow, which i would bet anything the seller will refuse.. oh, and put me down for 5 G's..
Sorry, all I have to work with is a digital camera. From the scan that is on the listing you can see it is a solid psa 6 centered very nice with no qualifiers. It is consistent with the rest of the psa 6 mantles, if nothing else it could possibly be closer to a seven. Thanks. -Ryan-
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Q: Is this the lowest starting bid you are willing to go. I might have a group of buyers that are willing to make this purchase for less. -Ryan Jun-01-06
A: Thanks for the question. I know it's a high starting price, I did it this way instead of setting a reserve. If broken down for individual resale at SMR prices there is a profit to be made. I would like to see what type of interest is out there for this collection. If towards the end nobody is willing to make a bid and you're still interested I'de be willing to discuss a deal. Thanks again. -Ryan-
Comments
<< <i>How come incugator -Ryan and the eBay seller -Ryan- both put little dashes in front of their names?
Is it just a -Ryanish thing?
By the way, I'm in for 5 bucks.
-wolfbear >>
Here Wolfie, let me take care of that for you!
Please don't have children. Thanks.
-DBH
GO MARLINS! Home of the best fans in baseball!!
Mission Fish
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Ok guys, if this means anything. I sent emails to both hotmail accounts and used my www.Didtheyreadit.com
IP address for both emails are below.
This is what I received back from my didtheyreadit.com
incugator:
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Subject: Collectors Universe
Sent On: 06/02/06 (12:31AM)
1st Opened: 06/02/06 (12:56AM)
Tracking Summary
Total: Opened 1 time by 1 reader
Tracking Details (latest first)
Opened: 06/02/06 (12:56AM)
Read Duration (approx.): 00:00:06
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and.
This is the ebay seller below:
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Mail Read Information
To: <Rcambio82@hotmail.com>
Subject: ebay 8818010402
Sent On: 06/02/06 (12:32AM)
1st Opened: 06/02/06 (01:53AM)
Tracking Summary
Total: Opened 1 time by 1 reader
Tracking Details (latest first)
Opened: 06/02/06 (01:53AM)
Read Duration (approx.): 00:00:12
Location: (US) United States, CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES (Data by NetAcuity) Show Map
Organization (ISP): - / VERIZON GLOBAL NETWORKS (xdsl)
Opened On: pool-71-109-43-225.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net (71.109.43.225)
Language: en-us
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
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-Ryan
Thanx for the readout.
I'm kind of tired - isn't it just confirming what Ryan said - they both live in different states?
mike
Your welcome.
22 years in the service and having heard every story a soldier can tell. This www.didtheyreadit.com has caught a lot of troops.
Were you joyridesally? If you were, why didn't you just put I'm checking your location through didtheyreadit.com? I typed you a serious reply. I'm guessing that you aren't serious.
My questions were serious to you and legit.
All I asked you were these real cards and that I saw your listing on Collectors Universe.
I never stated anything about being serious or about the listing or that I was interested.
Thanks,
Mark
<< <i>Well, the truth has been uncovered (although I don't know how legal that is) and I guess I'll pencil in everybody for 10k. I'm just kidding, but I hope this puts some of your minds at ease that I have no relationship to this other Ryan and I am not trying to scam you. I'm simply trying to get a great deal for all of us.
-Ryan >>
Ryan
I've had some fun at your expense.
For this I apologize - I'm still incredulous to your deal since I think, even if it were a good one, it would be difficult to divide equitably.
Nobody really meant anything personal against you - it's all in the timing.
If you were a member here for a few years and presented this? It would be a different story.
So, as one of the "instigators" - I want to wish you all the best and I hope you pick up some good deals.
And, yes, some of us are classic collectors with mounds of stick time and have had our share of lumps and sometimes, react commensurately.
Good luck
mike
about 3 weeks ago i just met an ebay seller to do a cash deal for 2 graded mantle rookies in cash. i am the one who requested a police station by him. but i also took an armed off duty cop with me who i am very close friends with. this keeps everyone safe. the deal went thru wihout a hitch.
pat
The seller would have to be a real idiot to list the item the way he did.
I still think the flip on the 1953 looks like it says 196X cannot read the last number. Best way to prove the authenticity of this listing would be to ask the seller to provide you up close individual pics of 10 of the Mantles. The pics need to show the case and card all at the same time.
I agree the listing will most likely get pulled not just for the charity thing, but Ebay has been pulling listings from new sellers presenting deals like this. This seller has no previous selling history.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
This could be one of those all time classic threads...at the least, it was the most laughs I have had here in weeks.
<< <i>I hope you guys were joking by apologizing. It's a scam. Maybe it's his buddy in LA but it's a scam in my opinion. >>
Glad somone else sees what I see
a group purchase.... indeed
Julen
TGIF
RIP GURU
Let's try this again
Stingray,
Hey, are you sure you don't know him? He used your Mt. Dew icon.
That's was a joke you were suppose to laugh.
<< <i>thread reminds of series of funny 1 liners.
a group purchase.... indeed
Julen
TGIF >>
More like a clusterf---.
Why does Ryan not buy the product himself?
Why is the seller not selling individually or through an auction house / dealer?
Ryan - if you're in Phoenix you may have more success in advertising to buy cards from individuals. The influx of retirees in Arizona certainly would turn up collections to be had at modest prices.
<< <i>I can't I'm a male. >>
^^^His response to "do not have children"
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHA Not biologist either whahooooo
<< <i>Stingray,
Hey, are you sure you don't know him? He used your Mt. Dew icon.
That's was a joke you were suppose to laugh.
I was going to say something about that, but decided against it.
This may be a good thread to carry through the weekend.
To the top!
>eyeroll>
Steve
Bosox1976
julen
RIP GURU
Scam artists prey on the unknowing. None of us are experts in all things. So, while we may have seen it all in baseball cards, what about indoor plumbing, repairs on post-2000 Mercedes or Jaguar, appliance repair facility, home remodeling....?
Scam artists are some of the nicest people on the surface. They are trying to gain your trust and thus put your guards down. I have found through a friend in the automotive business just how much of what they do has little to do with getting the car the repair it needs. It has all to do with selling the customer stuff that are not essential--premature shock and strut replacement, etc. The same with appliance repair and home remodeling.
With knowledge, a scam artist does not stand a chance. Hopefully we all have the right connections of people to consult with when requiring service for the car, the house or even getting dental work. Capitalism was suppose to be all about the consumer choosing to buy the better mousetrap, but what we really have is who can make the consumer think that their product is superior. The better scam artist one is, the more success in business. The better mousetrap that you make has little relevance today.
BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
<< <i>5 newcastles into my evening and i have decided to invest too...
julen >>
Julen - excellent choice. I see you in a brand new light.
(As in, another piece of the puzzle, not that I ever thought negatively about you
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Hi, Is there any way you could email me a blown up scan of the 51 Bowman Mantle? Thanks, Mike
His reply back...
Sorry, all I have to work with is a digital camera. From the scan that is on the listing you can see it is a solid psa 6 centered very nice with no qualifiers. It is consistent with the rest of the psa 6 mantles, if nothing else it could possibly be closer to a seven. Thanks. -Ryan-
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and
Q: Is this the lowest starting bid you are willing to go. I might have a group of buyers that are willing to make this purchase for less. -Ryan
Jun-01-06
A: Thanks for the question. I know it's a high starting price, I did it this way instead of setting a reserve. If broken down for individual resale at SMR prices there is a profit to be made. I would like to see what type of interest is out there for this collection. If towards the end nobody is willing to make a bid and you're still interested I'de be willing to discuss a deal. Thanks again. -Ryan-
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Looks like no bids yet!
Come on guys...
It sounds like a really good investment but I got all my money tied up in cash.