I guess it's all over for the gold bugs.
Russ
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Gold is down to about $640. Platinum was down $44 today! Freefall time!
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It is the sheep that get sheared.
Camelot
<< <i>Powerful interests manipulate the commodities.
It is the sheep that get sheared. >>
And why don't bears get sheared?
Things change
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well, suffice it to say that I'm not in those asset classes for the day to day moves.
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I choose to lose my money in other endeavers.
Camelot
Just my opinion
Gold will exceed the current 2006 high sometime later this year.
If someone would like to PM me for a "little" wager please go ahead.
It is far from over for PM's. We are at the end of phase 1 or early in phase 2. That means the big one, phase 3, is out on the horizon still.
roadrunner
<< <i>... Weak hands being plucked clean....
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Indeed, you only lose if you choose to sell at a loss
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<< <i>Gold is down to about $640. Platinum was down $44 today! Freefall time!
Russ, NCNE >>
Gee... A volatile gold market... Who knew?
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
I keep hearing these radio commercials screaming that gold is going to pass $1000/oz soon. Very soon! Get your order in today!
Who knows where gold is headed. It may come to pass that gold really does go on to hit all time new highs, or it may continue its fall toward normalcy.
The only thing I know of for sure is the guys selling precious metals are relentless in their sales pitch.
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<< <i>Dollar-cost averaging. Just another opportunity to buy.
Mojo >>
That's what I told myself at $20 silver in 1980.
Mojo
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<< <i>Gold is down to about $640. Platinum was down $44 today! Freefall time!
Russ, NCNE >>
...and nicely toned coins are up by a "monster" % ...go figure.
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And why don't bears get sheared? >>
I always thought they got turned into rugs.
<< <i>And why don't bears get sheared? >>
As they say on Wall Street, bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered.
If you have ever held a wrapped engelhard 10 oz bar in your hands or put a handful of wrapped 1 oz bars in your pocket, you will feel the comfort of having a speck of insulation against currency devaluations, plagues and disasters, world economic craziness, bank failures, stock crashes, all the bad things. Mulitply that 10 oz bar by ten and you have provided a level of security for yourself, your family, and your home that is somewhat better than an insurance policy that may or may not pay out (as all the Katrina people found out). And all it takes to be part of it is to buy on dips or quiet periods and accumulate patiently, bit by bit, over time, until you have what you feel is enough. And if (when) the wolf comes to your door, you don't have to take out a second mortgage, sell the second car, sell your coins, get a line of credit, tap a cash advance on your credit cards, or get an unsecured loan...you just drop a few of those oz bars or gold coins on the counter, take your cash, and finish your business. You can do that in Singapore, Bejing, Nome, Caracas, Fiji, San Francisco, anywhere in the world. It's a very liquid hard asset savings account that is not on the books.
Gold is not the answer, but it is part of the solution along with cash savings, stocks, realestate, insurance, and in our case...rare coins. It's not over for the gold bugs...they are out there, quietly accumulating and occasionally selling a little at a high price so they can buy a little more at a lower price. It's all good.
JMHO
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
WOW!!! Buying a gold bar is a better policy than insurance protecting the loss of your HOME??? I didnt know that.
BUY AS MUCH GOLD AS YOU CAN!!! IT IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF! YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST. OF ALL THE HORRIBLE ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL ISSUES IN THE WORLD, GOLD GUARANTEES YOU FOOD, CLOTHING AND SHELTER!!!
Thanks. I learn something new everyday...
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>It sure is not over on the coin market. I just bid $1150 for a $900 dollar coin on e-bay and got beat up big time by Leeg and Centsless. It sold for $1450. >>
LOL
Those guys beat me a few times, too... It was then I realized what a weenie I am. Lakesammman destroyed my attempt at a few Cheerios Sackies
But I felt good being in such company, ....
Anyway, great start to a debate Russ.
In the commodoties, the metals will taper off, but I don't think they will free fall. The overall beauty of this adjustment is that you will see COIN values rise and hold. Never to drop in value because every day a NEW Miss Matist is born.
PROOF Gold will not DROP in PRICE at the US MINT. Nor will silver !
Wanna bet ?
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Hummmm...you decide.
People were saying the same thing when gold dropped from $540 to $490 in mid Dec. It's had no correction on its run from $560 to $720. It's been due. Gold is probably where it should be at this point, according to the charts.
The hucksters are annoying, but so far they've been right. I'm not saying we'll see $2000 gold anytime soon or ever, but I wish I had listened when they told me to buy at $250 lol.
<< <i>Let's hope those bullion stockpilers in the WS of trading fall on their faces. >>
Sold all mine a week ago. Strangely, I moved up from #47 to #45 today with no gain in portfolio value.
Russ, NCNE
We aren't yet anywhere near inflation-adjusted record valuation territory. Metals did get a tad ahead of themselves, must pull back here and there, and will likely resume trending as they were.
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Will be interesting to see the temporary ranking realignment in the World Series now.
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Gold may be great but it was absolutely worthless to the Katrina victims inside New Orleans. Plus, no one was paying for stuff anymore anyway.
<< <i>Gold may be great but it was absolutely worthless to the Katrina victims inside New Orleans. Plus, no one was paying for stuff anymore anyway. >>
In the face of death, gold is meaninglesss. Love and compassion and helping hands are worth more than gold in the aforementiond scenario.
Stuff is irrelevant in times such as hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, fires, and death. But, in the market.... the survivors work through it, just as one rebuilds one's life after having fallen victim to any catastrophic or traumatic event.
Coins anyone ?
<< <i>Love and compassion and helping hands are worth more than gold in the aforementiond scenario. >>
And, a well stocked arsenal is worth more than all of that.
Russ, NCNE
Gold has been a speculators paradise, as well as other metal commodities. But American investors, (not overseas) are short-termed. How many American "investors" are involved in the gold up-trend, and are they starting to hit the panic button?? I don't think many, but so many clients of mine have asked about GOLD lately. Ship of fools. Last year they were asking me about Florida real estate!!! You get the idea.
Always when the boom ALREADY HAPPENED.
Mhammerman brought up an interesting point about insurance coverage and your home, with examples from Katrina disaster. Point? A good thing to look at is "where is your primary residence, and do you have GOOD coverage on your home???"
My primary home is in Michigan, and you can laugh, but I think it is the safest place in America. No hurricanes, mudslides, earthquakes, tornadoes are few and far between, no river to overflood, and I doubt terrorists have Detroit high on their attack list. (Especially since Dearborn, MI, 30 miles from me, has the HIGHEST population of middle easterners in the U.S!!!). My home is pretty safe, I would say. (But I do share a home in Hollywood with a couple, and that could get wiped out in a mudslide anytime!!!). Anyway...
If I was living in California, or near the coasts, or on the St. Andres Faultline, etc., I would SERIOUSLY think of selling my home, and then RENTING. Why NOT??? You could live on the beach, and not worry about losing your home due to a catastrophe, and the insurance company not covering it. That's what I would do. Florida, I would sell my coastal home, move inland, or rent. But are the hurricanes that BAD??? Katrina was an interesting case because of flooding AFTER the hurricane, but would not everyone take note of this disaster, and be pro-active in case....???
Only the wealthy or semi-middle class have a home to lose. Those that can't afford one, or are renting, have VERY LITTLE TO LOSE (regarding home ownership). I remember when I was young, two of my buddies started renting a house on Manhattan Beach, and they were so happy, and I was mad I took a job with IBM, had to wear a white shirt, blue suit and red tie, had to be at work by 8am, and because I had good grades, got "the job everyone wanted". So I was making good money, and had money to lose, while they were renting, and surfing.
If I could do it all over again....
Russ, NCNE
We are in the beginning of the PERFECT STORM in this economy in the USA and the WORLD.
I see--right now---people selling assets at less than 30 cents on the dollar to stay afloat..........and the blood is not yet running in the streets. The weakest hands are being picked clean right now.
Are you the PICKOR or the PICKEE?
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Anyone with an ounce of brains, a rudimentary grasp of deficit economics, and the slightest exposure to history can ONLY come to the conclusion that gold is the single best way to achieve a stable preservation of wealth.
Let's look at that again.
Anyone with an ounce of brains, a rudimentary grasp of deficit economics, and the slightest exposure to history ...
uh.....
We're DOOMED!
I'm just quietly adding a few more ounces of gold and a few more 100 oz bars of silver as they become available. Not seeing a lot of either available right now.
Looks like people are holding and waiting. Still, there will always be people selling for economic reasons even when the overall market is slow.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
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<< <i>Let's hope those bullion stockpilers in the WS of trading fall on their faces. >>
Sold all mine a week ago. Strangely, I moved up from #47 to #45 today with no gain in portfolio value.
Russ, NCNE >>
I was 51 and now Im 49 with no $$ change, so who got let holding the bag????
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