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Is black toning ever desirable?

lsicalsica Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭✭
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I saw a Merc this weekend, toned a nice, even, smooth ebony. I know most people say "black toning=not good", but this one was so even and smooth I found it attractive.

Anyone else ever see a black toned piece they liked?
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  • rsdoug81rsdoug81 Posts: 682 ✭✭
    I can't say that I've seen any black toning that I cared for.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    I missed a jet black morgan dollar in an NGC holder that I wish I bought

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  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭
    it is arguably the preferred look for SBA's.........
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can't say that I've seen any black toning that I cared for. >>



    I don't care it either. AND given that this coin got a body bag, for "environmental damage" from NGC, it's hard to believe that a black toned silver coin would get into a holder.

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    like this. Not real beautiful but kinda interesting.

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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes black toning hides an old cleaning that would otherwise make a coin undesirable, or unslab-able as the case might be.

    Is it desirable? It depends on either your eye appeal or your moral barometer.

  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that 87 Morgan as well.........
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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    I was not a fan of very dark toning untill I saw this one .
    NGC calls it BN , I would call it BLK .
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you buy the Merc ? I have been looking for years for some black toned coins with nice luster underneath. Personally I could care less if a coin like that would slab.

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  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    Yes Ron Sirna has several nice Morgans that are pretty much all black with lots of luster........they have a nice look to them image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is a BIG difference between a totally black silver coin and the pieces folks have posted here. I don't have any blanck silver coins left in my collection, but I can tell you they were all pretty ugly.
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just bought this one, in hand it is very dark but still has full strong cartwheel luster, and is slabbed by PCI.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭

    I've seen some BEAUTIFUL crescent toned Morgan dollars that had a jet black crescent. Very stricking! However, when the coin is completely black, it's not desireable.



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  • ABC123ABC123 Posts: 2,627
    Does Halley Berry count ?
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
    Yes, I've seen some glossy ebony black large cents that were absolutely beautiful
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you have a silver coin that has toned essentially black and yet has retained significant luster then you have something special.
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  • librtyheadlibrtyhead Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭
    Is this desireable?image.........it is better in hand!nt?
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lustrous black morgan can be a pleasant treat. However, dull ones aren't too exceptional. I've never seen a jet black merc...
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  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭✭
    I love this coin. Its a charcoal color with nice luster and a little green toning floating on top.

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  • millenniummillennium Posts: 3,305
    This dime has black toning...not sure if I like it.....
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  • CaseyCasey Posts: 1,502 ✭✭
    How about this one? I love the toning on this coin.

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Toning is is more jet black than image shows.
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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pic really sucks but the coin was just right for the set.
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  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I pay a premium for smooth black morgans with full luster. I actually prefer others to hate them because I really like them and would rather pay less because of the lack of competition.

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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Black toning, or any toning that is very dark, is not at all to my liking.image
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  • beepbeep Posts: 968
    I've posted this coin before so sorry for the repeat but I love the look of this one. Looks like the eagle is lit from behind highlighting the eagle in nice deep sunset colors surrounding a dark aqua. Heritage didn't do too bad on this photo.

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    I'd buy a truely black morgan any day
  • constructconstruct Posts: 932
    I agree, Beep. That is a beautiful coin. I have a 1926-S Peace Dollar that is almost that dark with irridescent toning, but your Morgan is more striking with the magenta outlining the eagle like that. image

    I have seen Bob Campbell's black Morgan twice. Both times, I said to myself that I would love to own a coin like that.
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is one nice frosty toner $.05 Is it true that once it's toned black it may never tone back? image
  • beepbeep Posts: 968
    Wow Nice nice coin. Super nice damn that's nice..
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nothing desireable to me image

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