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Football fans - what players are first year HOF eligible in 2007?

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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    Significant players who are 2007 HOF Eligibles:

    Bruce Matthews
    Randall McDaniel
    LeRoy Butler
    Ricky Watters
    Tony Boselli
    Terrell Davis
    Randall Cunningham
    Steve Wisniewski
    Eric Allen
    Carnell Lake
    Terry Allen

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  • SKINSFANSKINSFAN Posts: 1,032
    NOT much compared to last year i think we might see some guys who just missed it the last few years make it this time.
    Monk comes to mind
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    These 4 players made it to the final 10 last year before the cut down to the 6 players who were all eventually inducted.

    Claude Humphrey
    Bob Kuechenberg
    Thurman Thomas
    Michael Irvin

    This is Humphrey's last year on the modern ballot, so I think he's got a real good shot. Thurman Thomas is a lock this year as the top offensive skill player eligible. And Irvin will get in either WITH Monk or BEFORE Monk...He was simply more dominant than Monk during his career.

    But don't take my word for it...The HOF voters are the guys making the call...lol

    If we are assuming 6 players will be elected this year, my top 6 (in order) are:

    Bruce Matthews
    Thurman Thomas
    Michael Irvin
    Claude Humphrey
    Derrick Thomas
    Randall McDaniel

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  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    Isn't Darrell Green eligible this year?
  • wufdudewufdude Posts: 356 ✭
    Greg,

    You think like me! I was already looking at what autographs to start looking for! Is it too early to pick up a nice Marshall Faulk??

    I think Bruce Matthews will likely be a first ballot HOFer.
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    Darrell Green and Cris Carter are the 2008 HOF locks...That's the last "easy" year on the horizon...2009, 2010, 2011 are going to be TOUGH..
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  • yakbighamyakbigham Posts: 171
    I think Bruce Mathews is the only real HOF on that newbie list. I keep saying it, but what about Ray Guy. It's about time they stop ignoring the P position and finally add the best Punter of ALL TIME !!!!
    By the way is there a site , that gives the official retirement date of all NFL Players ! I have a tough time remembering what year guys retire.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Why Irvin isn't in already is a joke. Voters ignoring the rules about ignoring their off the field stuff (which they are directed to do, unlike baseball).

    Irving and Monk should be in,
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    Don't overlook Randall McDaniel...I know he was just an Offensive Guard and all, but he does have 12 Pro Bowls...There have been 17 players in NFL History eligible for HOF induction with 10+ Pro Bowls...All 17 are IN the HOF...

    McDaniel was dominant during his time and I see no reason for him not to get in...He may not be a first ballot guy like Bruce Matthews, but he will get in.

    Ray Guy, unfortunately, probably never will...In fact, no punter probably ever will..Its a position that most people would consider the least important on a team...Anyone who played against the Raiders during Ray Guy's tenure might argue that fact...

    Dan, there isn't a site that I know of that tracks player retirements. I track them myself, I've got a spreadsheet listing all important/possible HOF players if you are interested.

    Shoot me an e-mail..
    Jason
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  • SKINSFANSKINSFAN Posts: 1,032
    Chris Hanburger had 9 stright pro bowls and has never been considered that i know of
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    I've got a spreadsheet listing all important/possible HOF players if you are interested

    I'd be interested Jason. Can you email it to me? FFMAZZ@AOL.COM
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  • rbeatonrbeaton Posts: 631 ✭


    << <i>Chris Hanburger had 9 stright pro bowls and has never been considered that i know of >>



    While there were 9 Pro Bowls, they weren't straight.

    9-time Pro Bowler: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976

    I don't understand why old #55 gets no respect...

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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    I agree about Hanburger..If I had to list the top 5 most under-rated/over-looked NFL players in history, he would definitely be in there...

    The other 4 would probably be.....

    CB- Lemar Parrish (Bengals and Redskins, 1970-1982)-- 8 Pro Bowls
    DE- Jerry Mays (Chiefs, 1961-1970)-- 7 Pro Bowls (AFL)
    LB- Les Richter (Rams, 1954-1962)-- 8 Pro Bowls
    S- Cliff Harris (Cowboys , 1970-1979)--5 Pro Bowls

    All 5 of these guys are just as, if not more deserving than other players already in the HOF at the same position...

    Now that the HOF allows for TWO Senior Candidates each year, it's possible at least some of these guys will eventually get the recognition they deserve...

    Frank, e-mail sent!

    Jason
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  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Thanks Jason. I received the list
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  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    JASP,

    Could you please send the schedule to me - my e-mail is montooth13@yahoo.com. If you're interested, I have a nice spreadsheet on all the NFL hall of fame members, their year of induction and year of death...

    Regards,

    Greg M.
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  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Greg,

    You think like me! I was already looking at what autographs to start looking for! Is it too early to pick up a nice Marshall Faulk??

    I think Bruce Matthews will likely be a first ballot HOFer. >>



    Wulf,

    I'm starting to send out requests through the mail to anyone I can think of that is a potential hall of famer. I have a 1995 Pro line Marshall Faulk so I'm covered there image

    It is probably easier to start collecting their rookie cards and autographs now - before they are elected and everyone is adding them to the HOF RC and HOF auto set. As a matter of fact, last September I bought a beautiful Rayfield Wright PSA 8 rc for $30 - after he was elected they were selling for $80 to $100. Then again, I missed out buying a Harry Carson rc and auto until after he was elected....doh!!

    Regards,

    Greg M.
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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Seems like a weak list to me.

    Bruce Matthews-----------deserves to go in
    Randall McDaniel---- on the bubble
    LeRoy Butler-----no
    Ricky Watters----no
    Tony Boselli------no
    Terrell Davis------The Frank Thomas of Football?
    Randall Cunningham----No Superbowl--decent stats
    Steve Wisniewski---on the bubble
    Eric Allen----Longshot
    Carnell Lake----no
    Terry Allen-----no

    IMO---but again, what do i know!!
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Then again, I missed out buying a Harry Carson rc and auto until after he was elected....doh!!

    Don't worry Greg. More Rc's will show up, plus you can pick up his autograph relatively cheap. I won one last week for $15
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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like a weak list to me.

    Bruce Matthews-----------deserves to go in
    Randall McDaniel---- on the bubble
    LeRoy Butler-----no
    Ricky Watters----no
    Tony Boselli------no
    Terrell Davis------The Frank Thomas of Football?
    Randall Cunningham----No Superbowl--decent stats
    Steve Wisniewski---on the bubble
    Eric Allen----Longshot
    Carnell Lake----no
    Terry Allen-----no

    IMO---but again, what do i know!! >>



    This year is fairly weak for the first ballot guys..No big offensive names like Marino, Sanders, Moon, etc...Matthews is probably the only first ballot guy, but I of the new guys entering the HOF race, McDaniel, Butler, Davis, and Boselli will get serious looks...Here's how I see it...

    Bruce Matthews-----------First Ballot
    Randall McDaniel----100% will get in, probably not first ballot though
    LeRoy Butler-----Will at LEAST be a finalist at some point, 50/50 he makes the HOF. He was dominant and changed the SS position
    Ricky Watters----Will never be a finalist, possible top 25/semi-finalist at best
    Tony Boselli------Depends on what happens with Terrell Davis and how the injury shortened modern player is viewed
    Terrell Davis------Will likely be a finalist and will be hotly debated..If he gets in, I think Boselli does as well down the line
    Randall Cunningham----Could be a finalist at some point, most likely 10-15 years down the road though
    Steve Wisniewski---Too far behind with these other O-lineman who were better..Zimmerman, Dermontti Dawson, Matthews, McDaniel, etc
    Eric Allen----No chance, not even a semi-finalist
    Carnell Lake----No chance, could be a semifinalist at some point though
    Terry Allen-----No chance, his 8,000+ yards will at least get him nominanted for consideration..
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  • ArtRossLivesArtRossLives Posts: 193
    Jason - I'd love a copy of that HOF list - email is mark927@aol.com

    Thanks in advance.
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  • lommerlommer Posts: 160 ✭✭
    Starting the Lambeau Leap should be enough to get Butler in. image
  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Then again, I missed out buying a Harry Carson rc and auto until after he was elected....doh!!

    Don't worry Greg. More Rc's will show up, plus you can pick up his autograph relatively cheap. I won one last week for $15 >>



    Actually, I bought a 2004 Fan Favorites for $15 a month ago plus I received 3 auto's back from him through the mail. He's a great signer. That's actually how I've obtained several players that have been tough to find including Bob St. Clair, Dan Rooney, Dave Wilcox, John Madden and Stan Jones to name a few.

    Regards,

    Greg M.
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  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Bob St. Clair, Dan Rooney, Dave Wilcox, John Madden and Stan Jones to name a few
    Ironically I need those guys tooimage
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  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bob St. Clair, Dan Rooney, Dave Wilcox, John Madden and Stan Jones to name a few
    Ironically I need those guys tooimage >>



    Frank,

    I have extras of St. Clair, Madden and Stan Jones. LMK if you're interested. By the way, I just sent out TTM requests to Dan Fouts, Claude Humphrey, Ray Guy, Gary Anderson, Morten Anderson, Keith Sims, Randy Gradishar, Bruce Matthews, Randall McDaniel, Dermonti Dawson, Mike Shanahan, Paul Warfield and Dan Dierdorf. I'm hoping to have autographs of all players that have a possibility of getting in.

    Regards,

    Greg M.
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  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Hi Greg. I am interested. Email or PM me for what you are $$ loooking for.
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  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    What about Larry Allen and Willie Roaf on the O-line. They should have a decent shot at it once they retire. You also have to think about Morten Anderson and maybe even Adam Vinaterri (SP) for kickers. Any thoughts on Keith Jackson and Shannon Sharpe as a TE? Other than having to wait for Gonzalez or the guy from the Chargers (whom I am drawing on blank on right now).
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  • wufdudewufdude Posts: 356 ✭
    Greg,

    What resource are you using for addresses for the guys you are sending TTM?

    Thanks

    Jason
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What about Larry Allen and Willie Roaf on the O-line. They should have a decent shot at it once they retire. You also have to think about Morten Anderson and maybe even Adam Vinaterri (SP) for kickers. Any thoughts on Keith Jackson and Shannon Sharpe as a TE? Other than having to wait for Gonzalez or the guy from the Chargers (whom I am drawing on blank on right now). >>



    There are alot of guys still playing who will warrant consideration once they retire. Willie Roaf and Larry Allen are two of them, both with more than 10 Pro Bowls each. How about these names:

    Junior Seau
    Derrick Brooks
    Ray Lewis
    Jonathan Ogden
    Brett Favre
    Peyton Manning
    Marshall Faulk
    Curtis Martin
    Tony Gonzalez
    Marvin Harrison

    There's 10 LOCKS right there....

    Some of the other guys you mentioned who have retired will be due up for the HOF in future years. Some of the "sure things":

    2008- Cris Carter, Darrell Green
    2009- Bruce Smith, Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharpe
    2010- Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Tim Brown, Morten Andersen
    2011- Deion Sanders, Jerome Bettis

    Keith Jackson has no chance. He's been eligible since 2002 and hasn't even made the top 25 Semifinals. Vinateri just needs some years to pad his scoring totals. He's got all the big game kicks he needs, but since the only true Kicker in the HOF is Jan Stenerud who retired the All-Time Leading scorer I think its tough to get in unless you've amassed alot of points to go along with the big game heroics...

    Jason
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  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    I was only trying to think of guys that were questionable or might fall off our radar screen due to position. How could I ever forget about Favre.
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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    No one falls off my radar screen..lolol



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  • estangestang Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭
    Randall McDaniel is a sure-fire lock. 12 straight Pro Bowls is a NFL record, at any position (99 percent certain of that)

    LC Greenwood is really underrated. I agree that Hanburger is also underrated. How about Tommy Nobis being underrated.
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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Randall McDaniel is a sure-fire lock. 12 straight Pro Bowls is a NFL record, at any position (99 percent certain of that)

    LC Greenwood is really underrated. I agree that Hanburger is also underrated. How about Tommy Nobis being underrated. >>



    Tommy Nobis is one of my favorites to watch..He was an absolute BALLHAWK playing for an expansion team(Falcons) with virtually NO HELP. Had he played for a top notch team, he would be in the HOF already.

    If his name ever comes up as a Senior Candidate, I think he will get in 100%..Kinda like Benny Friedman a couple of years back..A player almost completely forgotten about, but if you but on his highlight reel he will be re-discovered as a dominant guy in his era.

    Jason
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  • onlyanumberonlyanumber Posts: 2,433


    << <i>Randall McDaniel is a sure-fire lock. 12 straight Pro Bowls is a NFL record, at any position (99 percent certain of that)

    LC Greenwood is really underrated. I agree that Hanburger is also underrated. How about Tommy Nobis being underrated. >>



    Wasn't Bruce Matthews a pro-bowler 14 straight years?
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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Randall McDaniel is a sure-fire lock. 12 straight Pro Bowls is a NFL record, at any position (99 percent certain of that)

    LC Greenwood is really underrated. I agree that Hanburger is also underrated. How about Tommy Nobis being underrated. >>



    Wasn't Bruce Matthews a pro-bowler 14 straight years? >>



    Yep, he sure was...Both (14 and 12) are great accomplishments and should make each player a certain HOFer.

    14 is the record and Matthews shares it with Merlin Olsen...
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  • bcd33bcd33 Posts: 152
    Not that I am looking forward to it (a Titans and Vandy fan here), but how will it be determined what card of Peyton's is added to the HOF set once he is enshrined? I would imagine the SP line would be used for players (Faulk, Martin, Brooks, etc.) until rookies started being short printed, but after that I'm unsure.
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