Why do you think that this set is not authentic. Sure, the set is not graded. That would take thousands of dollars to get 250 cards in the set graded and authenticated ($2,000.00 to be exact). Did you all look at the pictures? Did you also look at my feedback? There is no way that I would sell even a questionable card. These cards in very low condition, and I have never seen a problem with 1954 Topps cards being authentic. There are ungraded 1952 Topps Mickey Mantles on Ebay all the time and that is probably the most counterfeited card of all time.
Are you saying that someone (probably someone wanting revenge for some reason) questioned the authenticy, and then reported it. And then, since you could not absolutely, for certain, prove that it was not authentic, that you ended the auction? This auction was over $1,000 and headed towards $2,000. Many, many people saw this auction and did not even once question it's authenticity. But then, someone (probably a revenge taker) reports it, and it gets pulled? And now I can't list it because the cards aren't graded?
Please, review the entire auction once again. Take a good look the description, as well as each individual picture. This is most assuredly a genuine, authentic, and accurately described 1954 Topps Complete Set of baseball cards.
If this auction, just because it is fairlyy old and fairly expensive, needed to be pulled, then there are literally thousands of auctions that need the same. Baseball cards, especially vintage, are a huge area of sales for Ebay. That is what I extensively sell on Ebay. But, now, I don't know what I can or can't list unless the card is graded. You will not find one complaint in my feedback for selling anything whatsoever that is questionable or even a complaint about the accuracy of the grades I assign to each card I sell. I sold a 1953 Topps Complete Set about 3 years ago on Ebay. The feedback was glowing. Not one card was graded and it sold for $3750.00. The man that bought it said that I actually undergraded the set and he was very, very pleased. I am very, very carefull as to what I sell, and make double sure that the item is authentic.
The ending of this auction also made Ebay lose money as well.
Please, again, I beg of you to take a look at the auction again, and reconsider. This set is absolutely genuine. There is no doubting that. I would love to be able to relist the set, but I cannot afford to have each card graded.
Please reply as to you what you see, and let me know what I need to change in any future auction.
Your items have been ended due to authenticity concerns by eBay. The auctions contain common traits that are associated with questionable listings. Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits.
We are extra careful with problematic sports card auctions. We are not in a position to judge the authenticity of items. As such, we cannot say for certain whether or not your card is authentic. As a reminder, a seller must know for certain that the item they are selling is authentic. To prevent a possible removal of your listing, we recommend you get this item authenticated or graded. Here is a link to authentication companies that eBay recommends:
If you relist these particular items without authentication, the auctions may be at risk of being ended as well as a possible suspension.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write to eBay's Trust and Safety department. I appreciate your continued help in keeping eBay a safe and fair place to trade.
Regards,
Alyn Community Watch Team eBay Trust & Safety >>
That is far and away the dumbest response you could have possibly received. If you extend that logic then EVERY set AND single sold on ebay regardless of year or value should be authenticated before it's put up for auction. Hell, they can't say 'for sure' that a raw 1988 Donruss Tony Gwynn is authentic. Are these being pulled as well?
What an astounding display of incompetence. If you could, post this idiot's email address. I'd like to send him a note asking specifically why this set and not the thousands of others that are currently running on ebay was pulled.
Please do that. Maybe if a bunch would email, maybe I could get this thing resolved. Address it to "Alyn". Please include the item number and the fact that it was a 1954 Topps Complete Set. Whether or not y'all realize it, this is going to effect everybody that sells anything like this.
I also added this in a second email.
Hi Alyn,
One more thing that I want to add to my previous reply about the 1954 Topps Complete Set.
Just because someone shows a picture of a graded and authenticated item, that doesn't mean that the auction is legit. Anybody can steal a scan from anywhere off of the internet and say that what they have is authentic and graded.
I agree with you that authentication of an item is best. I am just saying that it is not the only way. If this set was in mid to high grade, I would definitly understand. But this set is low grade. You can look at the pictures of the cards and tell that they are old, and not counterfeited. Plus, if you will look at my feedback, if a buyer did buy something from me and he/she questioned its authenticity, I would do everything in my power to make it right. I believe that ought to be taken into consideration.
Again, this set is definitely, without a doubt, authentic and accurated represented.
Your items have been ended due to authenticity concerns by eBay. The auctions contain common traits that are associated with questionable listings. Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits.
We are extra careful with problematic sports card auctions. We are not in a position to judge the authenticity of items. As such, we cannot say for certain whether or not your card is authentic. As a reminder, a seller must know for certain that the item they are selling is authentic. To prevent a possible removal of your listing, we recommend you get this item authenticated or graded. Here is a link to authentication companies that eBay recommends:
If you relist these particular items without authentication, the auctions may be at risk of being ended as well as a possible suspension.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write to eBay's Trust and Safety department. I appreciate your continued help in keeping eBay a safe and fair place to trade.
Regards,
Alyn Community Watch Team eBay Trust & Safety >>
This is a form letter. Alyn probably still hasn't seen your auction.
I'll bet anything that the little turd of a revenge seeker got himself a bunch of fake id's, or got a bunch of friends together and they kamikazed your auction. That is the only way I could see this auction pulled. In watchdogging the items put up for auction, Ebay has made it entirely too easy to force an auction into being pulled.
Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
Ok, let me ask y'all this? Would it help me at all to change my username on Ebay?
Would they still be able to report my auctions if my username was changed? Need some advise, because I am willing to try anything, except start over with zero feedback.
I believe that if you change your id, you will still be linked to the old id. Best bet may be to find a friend you trust with high feedback that could sell it for you--IF, and that's a big if, you definitely have someone out there targetting your auctions.
Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
I have had bidders and watchers of that auction contact me asking why it was pulled. That doesn't sound like people that are concerned with the authenticity of this auction.
Shane (shanehardy)
The high bidder contacted me, and we are negotiating now about a sale.
Your items have been ended due to authenticity concerns by eBay. The auctions contain common traits that are associated with questionable listings. Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits.
We are extra careful with problematic sports card auctions. We are not in a position to judge the authenticity of items. As such, we cannot say for certain whether or not your card is authentic. As a reminder, a seller must know for certain that the item they are selling is authentic. To prevent a possible removal of your listing, we recommend you get this item authenticated or graded. Here is a link to authentication companies that eBay recommends:
If you relist these particular items without authentication, the auctions may be at risk of being ended as well as a possible suspension.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write to eBay's Trust and Safety department. I appreciate your continued help in keeping eBay a safe and fair place to trade.
Regards,
Alyn Community Watch Team eBay Trust & Safety >>
Man, that is some horrible reasoning. To paraphrase they are saying: We can't judge authenticity on cards, but we pulled your auction because we think it is not authentic. Therefore everyone must get all cards authenticated before selling on ebay.
If eBay is going to arbitrarily pull sports card auctions merely because the cards are not graded, it makes you wonder why they have Graded and Non-graded categories to begin with.
My question to Alyn would be, "Apart from the cards not being graded, which accounts for the vast majority of sports cards listed on eBay, specifically what 'common traits' led you to believe that these cards were possibly of questionable authenticity?"
<< <i>My question to Alyn would be, "Apart from the cards not being graded, which accounts for the vast majority of sports cards listed on eBay, specifically what 'common traits' led you to believe that these cards were possibly of questionable authenticity?" >>
They already answered this question.... "Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits."
So, to sell sportscards on eBay now without your listing being pulled you must:
1.) Pay to have the card graded. 2.) If it comes back 1/1... DON"T PUT IT IN THE TITLE! 3.) Do not accept cash! Pay an even bigger cut to feebay thru Paypal
And the fee's keep going up. Can we all say MONOPOLY!
Ebay needs a slap down similar to the one Bill Gates received.
Solid seller HOWEVER, PSA in title when only one freaking card in set was graded.
I agree Ebay needs a slapdown.
I would email Alyn thanking him for pulling the auction as you sold it offline to an ebayer and made more then if you had to pay the fees. Buyer is delighted!
Solid seller HOWEVER, PSA in title when only one freaking card in set was graded.
I agree Ebay needs a slapdown.
I would email Alyn thanking him for pulling the auction as you sold it offline to an ebayer and made more then if you had to pay the fees. Buyer is delighted!
Steve >>
Admitting that to an Ebay monkey will probably get his account suspended.
Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
<< <i>They already answered this question.... "Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits." >>
When is the last time ANYONE saw a card from 1954 Topps counterfeited? I have never seen or heard of one. Maybe the Aaron? But definitely, not the whole set.
Ebay's Board Room must consist of eight chimpanzees tossing darts at the wall. They've managed to alienate sellers and buyers which is a feat in itself. We'll see how they do when a flat tax is imposed on all items. The government isn't going to allow their practices to go on forever. They're losing a lot of revenue. I read something and the percentage of consumer purchases made on Ebay astounded me. Ebay has so much money rolling in right now that it's plain stupid not to provide a system of person to person customer support. Also, they should set their policies and follow them. They've managed to duck all responsibility by hiding behind 'caveat emptor'. That's ludicrous. They have a responsibility as a middle man to make sure deals are conducted fairly and negative feedback can't be used as blackmail.
How is someone who is not a Powerseller going to become one if he/she can't post items due to authenticity concerns? It's a classic Catch-22. The market is ripe for a website to compete with Ebay. They are vulnerable due to stupid mistakes. They've left the perfect blueprint by screwing up in every area. A site with a smaller take and free pictures watched over by a staff of men and women who can be contacted on the phone could build up. It's not going to happen overnight. However, I've watched enough idiots shoot themselves in the foot to know the internet auction landscape will eventually take a new shape over the next ten years.
Ebay is a customer service on both ends. They cannot continue to piss people off without the slightest regard to their feelings. We're living in a world of monopolies today. PSA is pretty much a monopoly. All the vertical integration at the major networks, studios and production companies is in direct violation of the Sherman Anti-trust act. Legislation will eventuall catch up to all this nonsense and a free marketplace will emerge again unless China just takes over everything.
Shane With all due respect, this seems like one of those famous "getting nowhere by email" communications. I would strongly recommend you get this Alyn character on the phone and have a straight up with him. Some of the world's most ridiculous postitions have been postured and defended via email. I've said it many times and it bears repeating: Email, as a problem resolution tool, is not only useless but counterproductive. I really think that anymore email exchanges between you and Alyn would be just pure entertainment.
Mark (amerbbcards)
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Shane - I didn't read the entire first page (got my settings done so that I see 50 posts per page), but after reading page 2, I've got this question: were there any rival '54 sets up for auction at the same time? Perhaps your tattletale had a set of his own that was taking potential bids away? All in all, a real cruddy deal from your perspective, and one that bears watching for any of us that sell vintage on any scale.
I was involved with the first post regarding this topic and actually spoke live with two different people and GOT NOWHERE. Good luck!! An excellent post by Jimco.
I actually have not tried to talk to Alyn. I did talk with customer support Friday night (he agreed with me on the auction). I asked to be able to talk with someone in Alyn's department (Trust and Safety Department, I think). He said that they only worked through email due to volume. I would love to talk to him, but I don't think that I can.
TNP777,
I was actually keeping track of that while I was selling it. I only saw one comparable. I said his set was VG-EX (which is better than mine - VG). He didn't break it down like I did. I started mine out at $9.99, therefore many, many bids. He started his out at like $2895.00, with no bids the last time I checked. I guess that is a possibility. I am going to see how his turned out.
I just got a calll from Alyn from Ebay (pronounced uh-lynn; it's a woman). She was very nice. Here is the deal. The auction was pulled because of the Hank Aaron. That is on their "list" of cards that are highly counterfeited. She said that I could list the set as soon as the Aaron has been authenticated.
I asked her about more cards that needed to be authenticated before listing. She said (among others) Michael Jordan RC, Mickey Mantle RC, Wayne Gretzky RC, Hank Aaron RC. Those are the only ones that she told me on the phone. I got her email address from her. Of course, I could not remember all of my questions, so I emailed her once I got off of the phone.
I asked her to send me a list (at least the ones that she could think of) of the ones that need to be authenticated. I also asked her if she could release to me the user(s) that reported my auction.
One other question that I forgot to email her is this - what about autographs? Does that mean all autographs need to be authenticated, or is there just certain ones? I would like to have a list on that as well.
Meanwhile, how many counterfeit Jordan and Gretzky rookies are listed that are sitting in Pro or Gem slabs?
I have a problem with Ebay policing the auctions for what they deem as highly possible counterfeits without telling us. If they are going to actually start this practice of allowing certain items only if authenticated, I think that could be a good thing, but only if we know!
Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
Just got an email back from Alyn answering my questions.
Here it is.
Hi Shane,
Due to our privacy policy, I cannot tell you who, if anyone, reported your listings. But I have a good idea that it was not the person you are talking about.
Here is a list of common cards, but remember, this list may change in the future:
Mario Lemieux rookie Wayne Gretzky Rookie Mickey Mantle rookie Babe Ruth Goudey Hank Aaron rookie Bobby Orr rookie And of course, the Michael Jordan Rookie.
As far as autographs go, we do not require you to have those authenticated unless you question the authenticity. If you saw the item being autographed, then it probably won't be a problem. If an autograph is reported to us as a possible fake, we will review it.
if that in fact the case....then no one should be allowed to sell raw, ungraded cards of these players....right??
Then..there shouldn't be any sales of hand collated sets of any of these years either (newer sets of course- please refrain from the smart*zz Goudey comments)... Let's take it one step further...the Jordan is badly reproduced...but..so are the Barkley, Olajuwon, Ewing and Malone...let's stop those as well... And 88 OPC Hockey....look out for the Hulls....gotta pull those as well...
HMMM...ANY Star product for that matter...
why not Nolan Ryan rookies...
Where do you even stop the list???
A high value sports collectible....hmmm but yet they let people with little to no feedback sell auctions with stolen images of product that they don't even own....or the "my husband had a heart attack" auctions...."found my grandfathers cards" auctions....
Wait, one more thought....I've heard that alot of people RESEAL cases and sell them again!! Halt the pressed....maybe Ebay should pull the sale of all high end cases....they may be tampered with!! No way to really authenticate them...
Authenticate= hmmmm isn't that just the opinion of another person....
Ebay needs to hire someone with more than a 6th grade education to make INFORMED decisions...
Not everyone will get caught that is in "violation." I reported 5 auctions for keyword spam and I only saw 1 pulled (I am not even sure if it was due to my reporting or not).
I have difficulty trying to get auctions pulled, yet we see a legit auction like Frank's get pulled with no one reporting. There are still raw Aaron RC for sale on ebay right now--I am surprised they have not been pulled. Will a simple reporting of the incident do it?
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve
That might work, but I am not sure I want to risk my account being suspended. Plus, I am in negotiations with the high bidder. How much, by the way, should I ask for the set, given that the grades I assigned are accurate?
Comments
Hello Alyn,
Thank you so much for replying.
Why do you think that this set is not authentic. Sure, the set is not graded. That would take thousands of dollars to get 250 cards in the set graded and authenticated ($2,000.00 to be exact). Did you all look at the pictures? Did you also look at my feedback? There is no way that I would sell even a questionable card. These cards in very low condition, and I have never seen a problem with 1954 Topps cards being authentic. There are ungraded 1952 Topps Mickey Mantles on Ebay all the time and that is probably the most counterfeited card of all time.
Are you saying that someone (probably someone wanting revenge for some reason) questioned the authenticy, and then reported it. And then, since you could not absolutely, for certain, prove that it was not authentic, that you ended the auction? This auction was over $1,000 and headed towards $2,000. Many, many people saw this auction and did not even once question it's authenticity. But then, someone (probably a revenge taker) reports it, and it gets pulled? And now I can't list it because the cards aren't graded?
Please, review the entire auction once again. Take a good look the description, as well as each individual picture. This is most assuredly a genuine, authentic, and accurately described 1954 Topps Complete Set of baseball cards.
If this auction, just because it is fairlyy old and fairly expensive, needed to be pulled, then there are literally thousands of auctions that need the same. Baseball cards, especially vintage, are a huge area of sales for Ebay. That is what I extensively sell on Ebay. But, now, I don't know what I can or can't list unless the card is graded. You will not find one complaint in my feedback for selling anything whatsoever that is questionable or even a complaint about the accuracy of the grades I assign to each card I sell. I sold a 1953 Topps Complete Set about 3 years ago on Ebay. The feedback was glowing. Not one card was graded and it sold for $3750.00. The man that bought it said that I actually undergraded the set and he was very, very pleased. I am very, very carefull as to what I sell, and make double sure that the item is authentic.
The ending of this auction also made Ebay lose money as well.
Please, again, I beg of you to take a look at the auction again, and reconsider. This set is absolutely genuine. There is no doubting that. I would love to be able to relist the set, but I cannot afford to have each card graded.
Please reply as to you what you see, and let me know what I need to change in any future auction.
Thanks a bunch. Please reply.
Shane (shanehardy)
Shane
Shane
<< <i>UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE!!!
I just got a reply from Ebay. Here is the email.
Hello Shane,
Thank you for writing in about this ended item.
Your items have been ended due to authenticity concerns by eBay. The
auctions contain common traits that are associated with questionable
listings. Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports
memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits.
We are extra careful with problematic sports card auctions. We are not
in a position to judge the authenticity of items. As such, we cannot
say for certain whether or not your card is authentic. As a reminder, a
seller must know for certain that the item they are selling is
authentic. To prevent a possible removal of your listing, we recommend
you get this item authenticated or graded. Here is a link to
authentication companies that eBay recommends:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/auth-overview.html
If you relist these particular items without authentication, the
auctions may be at risk of being ended as well as a possible suspension.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write to eBay's Trust and Safety
department. I appreciate your continued help in keeping eBay a safe and
fair place to trade.
Regards,
Alyn
Community Watch Team
eBay Trust & Safety >>
That is far and away the dumbest response you could have possibly received. If you extend that logic then EVERY set AND single sold on ebay regardless of year or value should be authenticated before it's put up for auction. Hell, they can't say 'for sure' that a raw 1988 Donruss Tony Gwynn is authentic. Are these being pulled as well?
What an astounding display of incompetence. If you could, post this idiot's email address. I'd like to send him a note asking specifically why this set and not the thousands of others that are currently running on ebay was pulled.
Please do that. Maybe if a bunch would email, maybe I could get this thing resolved. Address it to "Alyn". Please include the item number and the fact that it was a 1954 Topps Complete Set. Whether or not y'all realize it, this is going to effect everybody that sells anything like this.
I also added this in a second email.
Hi Alyn,
One more thing that I want to add to my previous reply about the 1954 Topps
Complete Set.
Just because someone shows a picture of a graded and authenticated item,
that doesn't mean that the auction is legit. Anybody can steal a scan from
anywhere off of the internet and say that what they have is authentic and
graded.
I agree with you that authentication of an item is best. I am just saying
that it is not the only way. If this set was in mid to high grade, I would
definitly understand. But this set is low grade. You can look at the
pictures of the cards and tell that they are old, and not counterfeited.
Plus, if you will look at my feedback, if a buyer did buy something from me
and he/she questioned its authenticity, I would do everything in my power to
make it right. I believe that ought to be taken into consideration.
Again, this set is definitely, without a doubt, authentic and accurated
represented.
Please consider and reply. Have a very nice day.
Shane (shanehardy)
Shane
<< <i>
Hello Shane,
Thank you for writing in about this ended item.
Your items have been ended due to authenticity concerns by eBay. The
auctions contain common traits that are associated with questionable
listings. Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports
memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits.
We are extra careful with problematic sports card auctions. We are not
in a position to judge the authenticity of items. As such, we cannot
say for certain whether or not your card is authentic. As a reminder, a
seller must know for certain that the item they are selling is
authentic. To prevent a possible removal of your listing, we recommend
you get this item authenticated or graded. Here is a link to
authentication companies that eBay recommends:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/auth-overview.html
If you relist these particular items without authentication, the
auctions may be at risk of being ended as well as a possible suspension.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write to eBay's Trust and Safety
department. I appreciate your continued help in keeping eBay a safe and
fair place to trade.
Regards,
Alyn
Community Watch Team
eBay Trust & Safety >>
This is a form letter. Alyn probably still hasn't seen your auction.
They probably payed as much attention to my auction when they pulled it as "Alyn" did when I reponded - ABSOLUTELY NO ATTENTION TO IT!
Shane
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
Would they still be able to report my auctions if my username was changed? Need some advise, because I am willing to try anything, except start over with zero feedback.
Shane
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
Hi Alyn,
One MORE thing about the 54 Topps Set.
I have had bidders and watchers of that auction contact me asking why it was pulled. That doesn't sound like people that are concerned with the authenticity of this auction.
Shane (shanehardy)
The high bidder contacted me, and we are negotiating now about a sale.
Shane
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
<< <i>UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE!!!
I just got a reply from Ebay. Here is the email.
Hello Shane,
Thank you for writing in about this ended item.
Your items have been ended due to authenticity concerns by eBay. The
auctions contain common traits that are associated with questionable
listings. Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports
memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits.
We are extra careful with problematic sports card auctions. We are not
in a position to judge the authenticity of items. As such, we cannot
say for certain whether or not your card is authentic. As a reminder, a
seller must know for certain that the item they are selling is
authentic. To prevent a possible removal of your listing, we recommend
you get this item authenticated or graded. Here is a link to
authentication companies that eBay recommends:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/auth-overview.html
If you relist these particular items without authentication, the
auctions may be at risk of being ended as well as a possible suspension.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write to eBay's Trust and Safety
department. I appreciate your continued help in keeping eBay a safe and
fair place to trade.
Regards,
Alyn
Community Watch Team
eBay Trust & Safety >>
Man, that is some horrible reasoning. To paraphrase they are saying:
We can't judge authenticity on cards, but we pulled your auction because we think it is not authentic. Therefore everyone must get all cards authenticated before selling on ebay.
My question to Alyn would be, "Apart from the cards not being graded, which accounts for the vast majority of sports cards listed on eBay, specifically what 'common traits' led you to believe that these cards were possibly of questionable authenticity?"
<< <i>My question to Alyn would be, "Apart from the cards not being graded, which accounts for the vast majority of sports cards listed on eBay, specifically what 'common traits' led you to believe that these cards were possibly of questionable authenticity?" >>
They already answered this question.... "Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits."
you must:
1.) Pay to have the card graded.
2.) If it comes back 1/1... DON"T PUT IT IN THE TITLE!
3.) Do not accept cash! Pay an even bigger cut to feebay thru Paypal
And the fee's keep going up. Can we all say MONOPOLY!
Ebay needs a slap down similar to the one Bill Gates received.
JMO, Bob C.
61 Topps (100%) 7.96
62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
63 Topps (100%) 7.96
63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
68 Topps (39%) 8.54
69 Topps (3%) 9.00
69 OPC (83%) 8.21
71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
72 Topps (100%) 9.39
73 Topps (13%) 9.35
74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
75 Topps (50%) 9.23
77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
88 Topps (5%) 10.00
Solid seller HOWEVER, PSA in title when only one freaking card in set was graded.
I agree Ebay needs a slapdown.
I would email Alyn thanking him for pulling the auction as you sold it offline to an ebayer and made more then if you had to pay the fees. Buyer is delighted!
Steve
<< <i>Yet they allowed this.......ohh it is a powerseller
Solid seller HOWEVER, PSA in title when only one freaking card in set was graded.
I agree Ebay needs a slapdown.
I would email Alyn thanking him for pulling the auction as you sold it offline to an ebayer and made more then if you had to pay the fees. Buyer is delighted!
Steve >>
Admitting that to an Ebay monkey will probably get his account suspended.
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
in any event they allow fake mantles and wagners to be sold yet they pull this?
Steve
<< <i>They already answered this question.... "Specifically, the auctions are for high priced sports memorabilia that are commonly associated with counterfeits."
When is the last time ANYONE saw a card from 1954 Topps counterfeited? I have never seen or heard of one. Maybe the Aaron? But definitely, not the whole set.
Shane
How is someone who is not a Powerseller going to become one if he/she can't post items due to authenticity concerns? It's a classic Catch-22. The market is ripe for a website to compete with Ebay. They are vulnerable due to stupid mistakes. They've left the perfect blueprint by screwing up in every area. A site with a smaller take and free pictures watched over by a staff of men and women who can be contacted on the phone could build up. It's not going to happen overnight. However, I've watched enough idiots shoot themselves in the foot to know the internet auction landscape will eventually take a new shape over the next ten years.
Ebay is a customer service on both ends. They cannot continue to piss people off without the slightest regard to their feelings. We're living in a world of monopolies today. PSA is pretty much a monopoly. All the vertical integration at the major networks, studios and production companies is in direct violation of the Sherman Anti-trust act. Legislation will eventuall catch up to all this nonsense and a free marketplace will emerge again unless China just takes over everything.
Best,
JimCo
Good post. Don't know how soon that can happen though. It will take a while.
Shane
With all due respect, this seems like one of those famous "getting nowhere by email" communications. I would strongly recommend you get this Alyn character on the phone and have a straight up with him. Some of the world's most ridiculous postitions have been postured and defended via email. I've said it many times and it bears repeating: Email, as a problem resolution tool, is not only useless but counterproductive. I really think that anymore email exchanges between you and Alyn would be just pure entertainment.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Geordie
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caveat emptor - The axiom or principle in commerce that the buyer alone is responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying.
Unless of course you're on Ebay where they determine the quality and pull your auction.
Good luck Shane.
I actually have not tried to talk to Alyn. I did talk with customer support Friday night (he agreed with me on the auction). I asked to be able to talk with someone in Alyn's department (Trust and Safety Department, I think). He said that they only worked through email due to volume. I would love to talk to him, but I don't think that I can.
TNP777,
I was actually keeping track of that while I was selling it. I only saw one comparable. I said his set was VG-EX (which is better than mine - VG). He didn't break it down like I did. I started mine out at $9.99, therefore many, many bids. He started his out at like $2895.00, with no bids the last time I checked. I guess that is a possibility. I am going to see how his turned out.
Shane
Finally, an explanation.
I just got a calll from Alyn from Ebay (pronounced uh-lynn; it's a woman). She was very nice. Here is the deal. The auction was pulled because of the Hank Aaron. That is on their "list" of cards that are highly counterfeited. She said that I could list the set as soon as the Aaron has been authenticated.
I asked her about more cards that needed to be authenticated before listing. She said (among others) Michael Jordan RC, Mickey Mantle RC, Wayne Gretzky RC, Hank Aaron RC. Those are the only ones that she told me on the phone. I got her email address from her. Of course, I could not remember all of my questions, so I emailed her once I got off of the phone.
I asked her to send me a list (at least the ones that she could think of) of the ones that need to be authenticated. I also asked her if she could release to me the user(s) that reported my auction.
One other question that I forgot to email her is this - what about autographs? Does that mean all autographs need to be authenticated, or is there just certain ones? I would like to have a list on that as well.
OK, now that I know....I am no longer ticked.
Shane
I have a problem with Ebay policing the auctions for what they deem as highly possible counterfeits without telling us. If they are going to actually start this practice of allowing certain items only if authenticated, I think that could be a good thing, but only if we know!
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Here it is.
Hi Shane,
Due to our privacy policy, I cannot tell you who, if anyone, reported
your listings. But I have a good idea that it was not the person you are
talking about.
Here is a list of common cards, but remember, this list may change in
the future:
Mario Lemieux rookie
Wayne Gretzky Rookie
Mickey Mantle rookie
Babe Ruth Goudey
Hank Aaron rookie
Bobby Orr rookie
And of course, the Michael Jordan Rookie.
As far as autographs go, we do not require you to have those
authenticated unless you question the authenticity. If you saw the item
being autographed, then it probably won't be a problem. If an autograph
is reported to us as a possible fake, we will review it.
Shane
Hmmmm!!! Let's see what can be found.
1980 TOPPS WAYNE GRETZKY #18 ROOKIE CARD Ungraded and is a seven day auction with five days left. Guess that one must be authentic to them.
Another one that they must have no problem with.
Still another. Ten day auction with a little less then five days left so they have had time to look at it and it must be authentic.
Oh wait another ungraded example.
I'm sure I can find ALOT more but what's the point.
Sorry that your auction was removed but am very glad that you finally got an answer.
Jeff
Miscut Museum
My Mess
Then..there shouldn't be any sales of hand collated sets of any of these years either (newer sets of course- please refrain from the smart*zz Goudey comments)...
Let's take it one step further...the Jordan is badly reproduced...but..so are the Barkley, Olajuwon, Ewing and Malone...let's stop those as well...
And 88 OPC Hockey....look out for the Hulls....gotta pull those as well...
HMMM...ANY Star product for that matter...
why not Nolan Ryan rookies...
Where do you even stop the list???
A high value sports collectible....hmmm but yet they let people with little to no feedback sell auctions with stolen images of product that they don't even own....or the "my husband had a heart attack" auctions...."found my grandfathers cards" auctions....
Wait, one more thought....I've heard that alot of people RESEAL cases and sell them again!! Halt the pressed....maybe Ebay should pull the sale of all high end cases....they may be tampered with!! No way to really authenticate them...
Authenticate= hmmmm isn't that just the opinion of another person....
Ebay needs to hire someone with more than a 6th grade education to make INFORMED decisions...
61 Topps (100%) 7.96
62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
63 Topps (100%) 7.96
63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
68 Topps (39%) 8.54
69 Topps (3%) 9.00
69 OPC (83%) 8.21
71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
72 Topps (100%) 9.39
73 Topps (13%) 9.35
74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
75 Topps (50%) 9.23
77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
88 Topps (5%) 10.00
So relist the set and do not mention the Aaron?
Steve
I have difficulty trying to get auctions pulled, yet we see a legit auction like Frank's get pulled with no one reporting. There are still raw Aaron RC for sale on ebay right now--I am surprised they have not been pulled. Will a simple reporting of the incident do it?
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That might work, but I am not sure I want to risk my account being suspended. Plus, I am in negotiations with the high bidder. How much, by the way, should I ask for the set, given that the grades I assigned are accurate?
Shane