<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
Try throwing around 15k in fictional money... you'll get a better response.
I can understand your concern....the guy I am selling this for will be at my house tomorrow morning if you would like for me to have him call you as soon as he gets here I can. We are not going to sell a fake/counterfiet coin to anyone, his mom works at the bank and she says it is not a fake, not that she's an expert, but they are taught what to look for. I do think that one side of the coin has more wear than the other and that is throwing some people off. But we will make sure of everything before hand. Do you live near South Carolina? He will be willing to meet you half way if it isn't to far for you. I am really sorry that you have been stressed over this....but please don't if you are the winning bidder, I will make everything right! You have my word!!!!! I don't do business that way! Thanks for your bid by the way.....I truly appreciate it, and like I said Brian will be here tomorrow if you want him to call you let me know or you can call me at home, 864-947-**** ...he should be here around 9:00 or 10:00 eastern time. Thanks again! Melonie
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<< <i>............Thanks so much for the concern, we are having it graded as we speak, so hopefully all concerns will be lifted before very much longer, I would never intentionally wrong anyone, so before anyone ever paid one dollar for it, it would be graded. Thanks again!... >>
<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
Try throwing around 15k in fictional money... you'll get a better response. I can understand your concern....the guy I am selling this for will be at my house tomorrow morning if you would like for me to have him call you as soon as he gets here I can. We are not going to sell a fake/counterfiet coin to anyone, his mom works at the bank and she says it is not a fake, not that she's an expert, but they are taught what to look for. I do think that one side of the coin has more wear than the other and that is throwing some people off. But we will make sure of everything before hand. Do you live near South Carolina? He will be willing to meet you half way if it isn't to far for you. I am really sorry that you have been stressed over this....but please don't if you are the winning bidder, I will make everything right! You have my word!!!!! I don't do business that way! Thanks for your bid by the way.....I truly appreciate it, and like I said Brian will be here tomorrow if you want him to call you let me know or you can call me at home, XXX XXX XXXX...he should be here around 9:00 or 10:00 eastern time. Thanks again! Melonie >>
Could be the seller really doesn't know what she's got.
The same incident, kind of, happened with another eBay Trader selling signed scripts. I knew they were fake, so I contacted the seller. After a back and forth she pulled all the auctions. She was selling something she knew nothing about for someone else. In the long run the owner rakes in the profits while the seller is left mopping up the mess.
These 100% positive, high feedback eBay sellers are prime for rip-offs from others wanting to use their good reputation to sell their counterfeit and/or fraudulent crap. Edited to remove the phone number in the quote.
I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well.
<< <i>Could be the seller really doesn't know what she's got. >>
That would be my guess. If the email exchanges weren't happening, I would have guessed a possible highjacked account. It just doesn't seem likely that someone would sell a couple thousand CDs with no problem customers whatsoever and then try to rip people off with a counterfeit coin. This is the type that walks into a couple coin shops with such a coin they acquired and doesn't believe or trust either dealer's assessment that it is a clear counterfeit.
Imagine that! 2,500++ feedbacks. 100% positive and it ends up, after all the negative comments made about this seller, she was duped too and is a victim rather than a scammer.
I wonder if she'll be receiving any apology emails...
<< <i>I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well. >>
Translation: Brandon wants the coin for himself, so he's scaring off all potential bidders so he can do a private deal later!
"I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
<< <i>I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well. >>
Translation: Brandon wants the coin for himself, so he's scaring off all potential bidders so he can do a private deal later! >>
I'm just tired of all the crap like this that is on eBay.
<< <i>I have sent her an email telling her that those two coins are not genuine and asked her to cancel the auctions. Let us see what happens now. She is a trading assistant also. (whatever that is.) >>
A Trading Assistant is simply an eBay drop off business that sells items on eBay for others for a percentage of the sale. If sh ruly is a Tading Assistant then it is quite probably that she has no idea about what she is selling and is simply passin on what the person who dropped it off told her about it.
wow...this is still up for auction. I would have thought with all the e-mail traffick indicating this was a bogus piece that the seller would have pulled it by now.
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<< <i>wow...this is still up for auction. I would have thought with all the e-mail traffick indicating this was a bogus piece that the seller would have pulled it by now.
Leo >>
Well, ending an ebay listing is pretty complicated, especially for a Trading Assistant™
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Hoepfully they've gotten the message, but they still don't seem to take action:
<< <i>It will get me in trouble if it's not real. We are having it checked tomorrow. So that we will have valued proof....I understand your concern, and it is appreciated. Melonie >>
<< <i>I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well. >>
Mental image this conjures up: sweat dripping from her brow, scraped knuckles, determined grimace as she stares at the recalcitrant listing, yelling to her assistant: "not the three-quarter Griply! I said, gimme the ten-eighth's whatchamacallit, and fast! I'm gonna actively work to remove this listing, or die trying!!!"
Assistant: "But maam, I removed a listing once, took all of 30 seconds, just had to push a couple buttons"
I think someone's having a bit of fun at you boys' expense
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
I'm really disappointed at the level of concern eBay has for listings like this. I had a detailed conversation with a representative from eBay and emailed them a page long list of reasons why this coin is a counterfeit and how to detect it. I can't believe they are taking this long to remove it!
By now, I assume this has been reported to eBay through the "contact customer service" page no fewer that 10 times with predictable results. Does the Secret Service have a "contact customer service" page?
Where is the ANA in all of this? The ebay workshop I attended for the free shirt at Long Beach a while back said the ANA was their POC for resolving numismatic problems on there.
sent question through ebay. Can you gaurentee the 1895 Dollar is real?
Her response:
<< <i>I will most defintely have it checked,we are taking it tomorrow to have it checked, I have no doubts, but just so everyone will feel at ease and also I and will hand deliver it to you! It is real! Thanks so much for the interest! Melonie >>
I thought they were using ANA on a as needed basis, not as a full time POC for this? I didnt get the T shirt, but I did get a bottle of great red wine..
She did not reply to my inquiry as to what grading service she was having it athenticated by.
She has added to the description that the reeds were counted and there are 179 reeds -i guess that guarentees authenticity-i am going to place my snipe bid right now.
<< <i>I thought they were using ANA on a as needed basis, not as a full time POC for this? I didnt get the T shirt, but I did get a bottle of great red wine.. >>
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Here's an actual 1895 Morgan from Coinfacts...
<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
Try throwing around 15k in fictional money... you'll get a better response.
I can understand your concern....the guy I am selling this for will be at my house tomorrow morning if you would like for me to have him call you as soon as he gets here I can. We are not going to sell a fake/counterfiet coin to anyone, his mom works at the bank and she says it is not a fake, not that she's an expert, but they are taught what to look for. I do think that one side of the coin has more wear than the other and that is throwing some people off. But we will make sure of everything before hand. Do you live near South Carolina? He will be willing to meet you half way if it isn't to far for you. I am really sorry that you have been stressed over this....but please don't if you are the winning bidder, I will make everything right! You have my word!!!!! I don't do business that way! Thanks for your bid by the way.....I truly appreciate it, and like I said Brian will be here tomorrow if you want him to call you let me know or you can call me at home, 864-947-**** ...he should be here around 9:00 or 10:00 eastern time. Thanks again! Melonie
IT'S A FAKE!!!
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<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
Try throwing around 15k in fictional money... you'll get a better response.
...if you want him to call you let me know or you can call me at home, xxx-xxx-xxxx ...he should be here.... >>
you might want to edit that and remove the phone number....
<< <i>............Thanks so much for the concern, we are having it graded as we speak, so hopefully all concerns will be lifted before very much longer, I would never intentionally wrong anyone, so before anyone ever paid one dollar for it, it would be graded. Thanks again!... >>
Yes, by Coin World Holder Gradind Service.
<< <i>Wow, the date looks FUNKY on the eBay one! It must be some rare VAM!
Here's an actual 1895 Morgan from Coinfacts...
Silly, that's because you are bidding on the '95 lazy 5 business strike, not the proof!
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<< <i>his mom works at the bank and she says it is not a fake >>
<< <i>Yes, by Coin World Holder Gradind Service. >>
She went so far as to specify PCGS in the response she sent me.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
Try throwing around 15k in fictional money... you'll get a better response.
Could be the seller really doesn't know what she's got.
The same incident, kind of, happened with another eBay Trader selling signed scripts. I knew they were fake, so I contacted the seller. After a back and forth she pulled all the auctions. She was selling something she knew nothing about for someone else. In the long run the owner rakes in the profits while the seller is left mopping up the mess.
These 100% positive, high feedback eBay sellers are prime for rip-offs from others wanting to use their good reputation to sell their counterfeit and/or fraudulent crap.
Edited to remove the phone number in the quote.
<< <i>Could be the seller really doesn't know what she's got. >>
That would be my guess. If the email exchanges weren't happening, I would have guessed a possible highjacked account. It just doesn't seem likely that someone would sell a couple thousand CDs with no problem customers whatsoever and then try to rip people off with a counterfeit coin. This is the type that walks into a couple coin shops with such a coin they acquired and doesn't believe or trust either dealer's assessment that it is a clear counterfeit.
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<< <i>
<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
Try throwing around 15k in fictional money... you'll get a better response.
...if you want him to call you let me know or you can call me at home, xxx-xxx-xxxx ...he should be here.... >>
you might want to edit that and remove the phone number.... >>
Thanks, I hadn't realized it, but that was in poor form...
2,500++ feedbacks. 100% positive and it ends up, after all the negative comments made about this seller, she was duped too and is a victim rather than a scammer.
I wonder if she'll be receiving any apology emails...
Then it may be months before the coin's in hand...
<< <i>I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well. >>
Translation: Brandon wants the coin for himself, so he's scaring off all potential bidders so he can do a private deal later!
<< <i>
<< <i>I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well. >>
Translation: Brandon wants the coin for himself, so he's scaring off all potential bidders so he can do a private deal later!
I'm just tired of all the crap like this that is on eBay.
<< <i>I have sent her an email telling her that those two coins are not genuine and asked her to cancel the auctions. Let us see what happens now. She is a trading assistant also. (whatever that is.) >>
A Trading Assistant is simply an eBay drop off business that sells items on eBay for others for a percentage of the sale. If sh ruly is a Tading Assistant then it is quite probably that she has no idea about what she is selling and is simply passin on what the person who dropped it off told her about it.
Leo
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<< <i>wow...this is still up for auction. I would have thought with all the e-mail traffick indicating this was a bogus piece that the seller would have pulled it by now.
Leo >>
Well, ending an ebay listing is pretty complicated, especially for a Trading Assistant™
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>kiyote, why did you cancel your bids? >>
I thought she would have pulled it by now, but it was still there! I'd be a super-hypocrite after the fairt**** deal not to pay for a coin I bid on.
E-Bay doesn't care, so unless seller pulls it, someone will get burned.
If you list a coin as counterfeit on e-bay, they'll pull it. List a counterfeit and don't say anything, then you're ok. Honesty doens't pay on e-bay
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Hoepfully they've gotten the message, but they still don't seem to take action:
<< <i>It will get me in trouble if it's not real. We are having it checked tomorrow. So that we will have valued proof....I understand your concern, and it is appreciated. Melonie >>
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<< <i>I just got off the phone w/eBay explaining why this coin is a fake. It is hard sometimes for folks who don't commonly handle rare coins to realize if a coin is a fake or not. She is now actively working to remove the listing off of eBay and to investigate the seller's other offerings. I will be including a link to this thread as well. >>
Mental image this conjures up: sweat dripping from her brow, scraped knuckles, determined grimace as she stares at the recalcitrant listing, yelling to her assistant: "not the three-quarter Griply! I said, gimme the ten-eighth's whatchamacallit, and fast! I'm gonna actively work to remove this listing, or die trying!!!"
Assistant: "But maam, I removed a listing once, took all of 30 seconds, just had to push a couple buttons"
I think someone's having a bit of fun at you boys' expense
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>The high bidder has zero feedback...
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<< <i>You can bid as high as you'd like. The seller has already promised that they won't take any money until it's graded.
Russ, NCNE >>
Do you believe it's "a legitimate estate auction?"
<< <i>I e-mailed her alo and got the same response as everyone else. >>
HarASS her ASS!!!
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<< <i>The high bidder has zero feedback...
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Can you gaurentee the 1895 Dollar is real?
Her response:
<< <i>I will most defintely have it checked,we are taking it tomorrow to have it checked, I have no doubts, but just so everyone will feel at ease and also I and will hand deliver it to you! It is real! Thanks so much for the interest! Melonie >>
She has added to the description that the reeds were counted and there are 179 reeds -i guess that guarentees authenticity-i am going to place my snipe bid right now.
<< <i>I thought they were using ANA on a as needed basis, not as a full time POC for this? I didnt get the T shirt, but I did get a bottle of great red wine.. >>
Seems this would fit the need criteria.
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The auction is no longer
<< <i>And maybe I'm a Chinese fighter pilot >>
Hey... can you bring over some of those neat 1804 dollars with the Trade Dollar reverse next time you get Stateside? ;-)