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Name a technical innovation that would transform numismatics

gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
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This will be a short list, but here's one: A chemical agent that was 10 times more effective than acetone at removing PVC, but still wouldn't harm the coin.
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  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408 ✭
    Time travel.
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  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    How about an AT-o-meter?
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭
    A type of camera connected to a computer that when it takes the photo of the coin it records every detail of the coin down to the eletron. PCGS would use this to put an end to crackouts forever. Every coin that came in for grading would be imaged and kept on file.
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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A light, a laser, a device of any kind that could help in detecting "hurried" toning (AT) from what we call NT.
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    Using computers in some aspect of coin grading. It was tried previously but failed. Technology has improved tremendously since then. Give it another go.image I think a safe way to treat copper that doesn't damage the coin would be a serious money maker for someoneimage
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭


    << <i>A type of camera connected to a computer that when it takes the photo of the coin it records every detail of the coin down to the eletron. PCGS would use this to put an end to crackouts forever. Every coin that came in for grading would be imaged and kept on file. >>

    Why would PCGS want to put an end to crackouts?image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Consistent grading
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭


    << <i>Consistent grading >>

    Now that would put an end to crackouts. And that is exactly why it won't happen.
  • ram1946ram1946 Posts: 762 ✭✭
    Artificial intelligence would make a world of difference. Given enough examples and samples, techonolgy could be created to recognize just about anything. Grading could be included in that potential group. Sophisicated software "taught" to grade would take away the guess work, thereby ending the disagreements and establishing an "acceptable to all" position. Of course, it might also take away the debate of the aesthetics and quality, something we all deep down enjoy about our hobby.
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    An invisable identifier for each raw coin shared by NGC/PCGS to protect against theft as well as coin doctors.
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    A new minting technique that would produce high relief coins at the same or greater speed than modern low-relief techniques produce.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    A price guide as accurate as stock quotations.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    The ability to make a perfect copy of a coin.
    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin


    My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
  • CharlieBCharlieB Posts: 441 ✭


    I think Trinketts and I are on the same wavelength.

    One innovation would be coins

    being slabbed with a new addition, microchips imbedded in the plastic slabs. These chips would record the history of the coin, all previous owners, transactions and dates.
    The coin's microchip could be scanned, interpreted and produce an instant report.

    That leads me to the next phase, computer grading. Is it possible that down the road computers will be able to scan both sides of a coin in the same standard light source and assign a grade more accurately than you can? It would have the ability to make depth measurements around the entire metal surface and recognize the height of all the high and low points. The computer would have a sophisticated ability to measure contact marks, their positions, sizes, color, lighter areas, darker areas and use some sort of plotting technique to determine their importance when grading the coin. But how does the computer determine eye appeal? I suspect an attempt will be made to program that in too.



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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭
    Digital fingerprinting to authenticate coins, identify die varieties (including new ones), detect genuine chemical surface wear (from contact with hands), uniquely identify a piece, etc. With all respect to Julian, I would not suggest EVER using digital methods exclusively to grade coins. Perhaps generate a digital assessment (like for wear) as an alert to a human grader. Similar assessment reports would be in order for authenticating a coin as well. This technology could be a composite of multiple technilogies like 3D optical surface imagery, xray crystallography, ... Being able to even simply perform the task of uniquely identifying each coin would be a huge advancement, imposing a major impediment to theft and an invaluable certification of provenance.
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  • BustmanBustman Posts: 1,911 ✭
    If I told you, how would I get rich?image
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Counterfits that are produced with such accuracy that no one, not even third party graders, could detect them as counterfit. Once this became common knowledge, the market would be destroyed.

    David
    Lincolncentman Toned Lincolns
  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Lojack in the PCGS slabs.

    https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/collectors-showcase/world-coins/one-coin-per-year-1600-2017/2422

  • CurleyCurley Posts: 134
    A method to non-destructively clean coins (ie, remove tarnish/toning). Inventor would hit the mother lode!
  • coinpagecoinpage Posts: 342
    Coin sorter by weight not by size
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    "Coin Historical Forensic Detection"... This would determine all who have handled a particular coin through its' history. How much more would an 1881-S Morgan dollar be worth if it was know to have been handled by Wyatt Earp or Doc Holiday?imageimage
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Truth Serum.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Truth Serum. >>



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  • CoindexterCoindexter Posts: 1,074
    Personally I'd be a lot happier if people were not attempting to introduce new technology to numismatics.

    I don't ever want to see wide spread use of computerized grading. I know that there is potential in that technology to produce the most consistent and accurate grading possible, but I want actual human beings making the call.

    I don't want computer chips in my coins. I want my coins to be struck metal, nothing else.

    I recognize the fact that certain technologies hold the potential to significantly limit the risks involved with this hobby (buying overgraded coins, buying doctored coins, being the victim of theft, etc.), but in my opinion so does taking the time to learn and understand all of the information available to modern collectors.

    I prefer to let the burden of knowledge fall on me alone. To do this I have to assume all associated risks. So be it. I also get to assume all associated rewards.
  • ccrccr Posts: 2,446
    Coinage made out of diamond. They`ll never get worn out.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super coin restorer that would put detail back on coins
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  • UncleWigglyUncleWiggly Posts: 2,467
    Scratch free slab.



    Jerry
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Lincolncentman and Jcarney have put forth the idea of a perfectly-copied coin.

    How about the possibility to detect any counterfeit with 100% accuracy?

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  • BruceswarBruceswar Posts: 2,869


    << <i>Personally I'd be a lot happier if people were not attempting to introduce new technology to numismatics.

    I don't ever want to see wide spread use of computerized grading. I know that there is potential in that technology to produce the most consistent and accurate grading possible, but I want actual human beings making the call.

    I don't want computer chips in my coins. I want my coins to be struck metal, nothing else.

    I recognize the fact that certain technologies hold the potential to significantly limit the risks involved with this hobby (buying overgraded coins, buying doctored coins, being the victim of theft, etc.), but in my opinion so does taking the time to learn and understand all of the information available to modern collectors.

    I prefer to let the burden of knowledge fall on me alone. To do this I have to assume all associated risks. So be it. I also get to assume all associated rewards. >>



    Agreed 100% Leave coins alone, learn to grade and you will not need any technology to help you. If you can't tell weather a coin is MS 65 or MS 66 then don't buy it. I like to buy my coins in hand so all the blame if I make a screw up lies on me.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,339 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as "eye appeal" is a consideration, a computer will never be able to grade a coin.


    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭


    << <i>Coinage made out of diamond. They`ll never get worn out. >>


    But diamond is also"brittle". Drop your diamond coin and watch it shatter.
  • ccrccr Posts: 2,446
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