Look at your registry sets

sweetwilliet

I just started looking at registry sets today, and all the coins are listed as MS, including all the circulated coins, like MS20, MS08, etc... Anyone know what's going on?

UncleWiggly

Yes it has nothing to do with the grade. It has to do with if they are MS...for all business strikes or PR...proof, something like that anyway.



Jerry

sweetwilliet

For example, my 1884-s was listed as AU53, now it is listed as an MS53. Must be a glitch in the matrix. Watch out for agents!!

CarlWohlforth

Was there any warning about this change?

When I was told about it I felt it was kind of strange...

cohodk

Sounds like they be gettin ready for a 100 pt scale.

mcheath

its the new ebay scale, ms79 could upgrade to 80

pocketpiececommems

I'd rather see it the way it is graded on the holder.

BECOKA

Wow, I guess all that matters is the number part anyway.

It is strange to see MS50 and MS55 on my half eagles.

Probably just a glitch as they get closer to upgrading the registry to version 2.0.

TAClough

I thought MS stood for Mint State, the condition they left the mint in; uncirculated, no wear, MS 60-70. Now we have a ms45, I would like to see how they justify that leaving the mint unaltered.

Tim

oreville

If PCGS was going to do that then I would have suggested BS01 through BS-59 (what the heck, we already fouled things up as it is), then MS-60 through MS-70. BS stands for business strike which is a more informative term than mint state for the circulated grades. MS for the uncirculated grades is fine as is.

It would probably simplify the computerization of grading but shouldn't have been an issue addressed by our exalted ANA?

Cladiator

<< <i>BS stands for business strike >>

I can think of a much better phrase that could stand for

Bruceswar

<< <i>Sounds like they be gettin ready for a 100 pt scale. >>

I sure hope not... many of us are still struggling to grade on a 70 point scale... everybody has some series wherer they need help in grading....

relayer

Cool - I got two upgrades MS55 and MS58

garsmith

This is very confusing; change it back David!!

How can a circulated coin show is the registry as MS

pocketpiececommems

Giving everything a Mint State designation like that sounds like something Coin Vault would do.

BillJones

The use of the term "MS" for grades below MS-60 has been around for a long time, dating all the way back to when the grading numbers came in to general use (not just for early large cents) in the mid 1970s.

To me it’s an inaccurate application of the grading scale and a sign of ignorance. I’ve seen citations like MS-20 in print ads, but that was long ago.

When it is used on a computer maintained or generated system, it might be a lazy way prefix all references to business strike coins in the circulated grades. Circulated Proof coins receive similar notations, like PR-50.

solid

Circulated Proof coins receive similar notations, like PR-50.

It makes sense to me to use it this way on proofs, as it is describing the method of manufacture.

MS=Mint State to me, which should only be used for uncirculated Business Strike coins. I don't
think BS is the way to go, though.

Hey, I know - Let's put it back how it used to be!

Ken

BigE

All of mine have said MS anyway------BigE

Barndog

PCGS is just aligning itself with some of the more "notable" ebay sellers!

D

Wow I went from a G 1916-D Merc dime to a MS 1916-D Merc dime.

Wonder what the price bump is in that...

-Daniel