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Please help grade this coin

MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
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This coin is in an ANACS holder. I just don't agree with the grade assigned by ANACS. I am going to send it in to either NGC or PCGS for grading. Myself, I am not the greatest grader and could use some help with this coin. What do you think it will grade? I hope the pics are good enough for you to examine the surfaces.
Also, is there really any advantage to cracking the coin out of the holder before sending it in?
Thanks
Michael

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    XF 40 is my grade...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • cmanbbcmanbb Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF40 at PCGS
    XF45 at NGC...........imo
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    53
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    It looks au50 to me, with very nice patina. Why do you need it in a new holder?
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  • AZLARRYAZLARRY Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    NGC 50-53
    PCGS 45-50

    I would crack it out if you are going to send it in.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF45.......maybe...AU53 but that would be pushing it (possible though)....imho

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    btw...regardless of the grade....I like it!

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  • bgricebgrice Posts: 1,180
    Leave it in the holder and send it in for a x-over.... 53
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    I agree--It's looks somewhere beween EF-45 and AU-50. I think the current holder is fine because all you really need as a collector is to know it genuine and not cleaned, etc. Many dealers would just crack it out to sell raw, knowing the bust people like to argue about grade on raw coins/ or graded coins anyway. If they called it VF and you want it in a holder for insurance, then resubmitting to NGC might be worth it.................Pretty coin!!!image
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    AU 50
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    tough to grade from the image... likely AU50 IF THERE IS ENOUGH LUSTRE PRESENT THROUGH THE TONING

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  • cmanbbcmanbb Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are 3 examples I have in my collection of a PCGS XF45.
    I had to copy your pics to my hard drive and lighten them up to get a better look at them.
    It may go XF45, but I still think XF40



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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-50?
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would go 50 on this one 53 if luster is stronger than the pics show
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • bonkroodbonkrood Posts: 796 ✭✭✭
    AU 50 very nice.
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    au50
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699 ✭


    << <i>Here are 3 examples I have in my collection of a PCGS XF45.
    I had to copy your pics to my hard drive and lighten them up to get a better look at them.
    It may go XF45, but I still think XF40






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    That 1826 Looks AU50-53 to me... I would send that for a regrade...
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    50
  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103 ✭
    I'm liking AU-50 for that coin. I really like it too.
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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    It's a nice example! I like the large coins in the small ANACS holders. I'd keep her in that holder.
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    AU53 and image
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  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374 ✭
    EF-45...............Looks nice..........
    ......Larry........image
  • billboatbillboat Posts: 2,260
    Very nice Bust---wouldn't be surprised if ANACS gave it 40--I think they are tough on the series.
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-64 20K!! Heh, If the coin is that dark, and the luster doesn't go over Miss Liberty I'd say 45. It looks to be kind of a dead fish as far as luster on the obverse. Luster rules the day on these. Don't matter to me what the services say, as I see lusterless (dead fish) ones in 55 holders. Me thinks some folks are too obsessed with grade on these ol' Bust halves. Enjoy it for what it is! If it has luster going into the fields (and it doesn't look like it from the image) it might "Grade" better at one of the services.
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Killed another one!image
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  • cmanbbcmanbb Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll try and kill this one stman...........................

    For your veiwing pleasure, another XF45 coin in my collection.
    This one is one of the two major players in my quest of finishing that date set.


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  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    I reallly appreciate all of this input, and for the pics of the EF45's. It's helped me out a lot, thanks!
    The obverse has no real luster, the reverse has some luster, and it's graded by ANACS as an EF45.
    I want to cross it over so I can put it in a registry set, but other than that reason, I like the ANACS holders too.

  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    NGC would grade it AU50 or better, even if it lacks luster.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    It was in an ANACS 45 holder and it crossed to PCGS 45 as well. I was surprised as I had a feeling it wouldn't cross.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I'd go just about anywhere from 45 to 53 depending on the luster.
  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349 ✭
    I agree with 45. The wear is just a tad too pronounced for an AU. It's a really noce coin! image

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  • MikeKingMikeKing Posts: 847
    IT's also a scarce variety, Overton 117, ranking it a high rarity 4.
    Intersting coin.
  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭
    i think its a 50
  • MYTWOCENTSMYTWOCENTS Posts: 288
    AU 50 love the coin no matter what happens.
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  • ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    First impression was 45.
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    XF45

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